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Jesus, Bombs and Ice Cream

Posted: 08/13/11 01:04 PM ET

I was in Baghdad in March 2003, where I lived as a Christian and as a peacemaker during the "shock-and-awe" bombing. I spent time with families, volunteered in hospitals and learned to sing "Amazing Grace" in Arabic.

There is one image of the time in Baghdad that will never leave me. As the bombs fell from the sky and smoke filled the air, one of the doctors in the hospital held a little girl whose body was riddled with missile fragments. He threw his hands in the air and said, "This violence is for a world that has lost its imagination." Then he looked square into my eyes, with tears pouring from his, and said, "Has your country lost its imagination?"

That doctor's words haunt me.

Those words have inspired something that I hope will be wonderfully redemptive.

I am teaming up with Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream, and an all-star cast to create a little event to provoke the imagination on the eve of the 10th anniversary of Sept. 11. We've been calling it "Jesus, Bombs, and Ice Cream."

It will be a night of reconciliation and of grace.

A victim of 9/11 will share about why she has insisted that more violence will not cure the epidemic of hatred in the world.

A veteran from Iraq will speak about the collision he felt as a Christian trying to follow the nonviolent-enemy-love of Jesus on the cross while carrying a gun.

A welder will tie an AK-47 in a knot, while a muralist paints something beautiful on stage.
We're going to do a Skype call with Afghan youth working for peace, and hear their dreams for a world free of war and bombs and other ugly things.

I don't want to give the whole thing away, but I will say we've got the world's best juggler, Josh Horton, doing an original anti-violence routine. And we've got some of the finest musicians I know rocking out some old freedom songs.

Ben and I are sort of like the ringmasters of the circus. He'll do this spectacular demonstration with Oreos, with each one representing $10 billion of federal spending so we can see how the money stacks up with all these budget talks. I'll share about Jesus, and that grace that dulls even the sharpest sword.

We hope you can make it.

Oh, and word on the street is: ice cream will be served.

But even if you can't make it to Philly on Sept. 10 for our little party, find some way to do something that doesn't compute with the patterns of violence. Find a way to interrupt injustice and to build the kind of world we are proud to pass on to our kids -- a world with fewer bombs and more ice cream.

I hope to go back to Iraq in a year or two, find that doctor again and tell him: "We have not lost our imagination."

WATCH Ben Cohen's invitation:


 
I was in Baghdad in March 2003, where I lived as a Christian and as a peacemaker during the "shock-and-awe" bombing. I spent time with families, volunteered in hospitals and learned to sing "Amazing G...
I was in Baghdad in March 2003, where I lived as a Christian and as a peacemaker during the "shock-and-awe" bombing. I spent time with families, volunteered in hospitals and learned to sing "Amazing G...
 
 
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
04:52 PM on 08/18/2011
""This violence is for a world that has lost its imagination."

This quote obviously strikes the author profoundly, but it puzzles me. What does it mean? How does imagination prevent violence?

The best I can make of it is the doctor was saying, "We should be able to think up ("imagine") better ways to resolve conflicts". But then, the quote doesn't feel right. "Lost" implies a change, and it's not like we were any more non-violent in the past.
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Mundane Egg
Decency is the new black.
11:06 AM on 08/16/2011
Sad to say that many Christians in America worship "agenda of the government" as an idol above Christ. It is nothing new for political leaders to use religion as the fuel for their war machine. It is sad when you see the radical teachings of Jesus, the Prince of Peace, used to justify war.
05:55 PM on 08/16/2011
I agree, and I confess that I have done exactly that sin in the past. This next election cycle, I'm praying that the Holy Spirit directs me to the candidate the church in America, both Protestant and Catholic, should support. And right now that leaves everything wide open.
And thank you for your kind response from my last post. That really gave me hope for all of us.
02:15 AM on 08/16/2011
A lot of us who are on the Christian Right have to re-evaluate what this country should be doing to our enemies while at war.

But at the same time those on the Christian Left have to examine their opposition to war, and their true motivations in opposing it. Hundreds of thousands of people on the Left marched in the streets to protest President Bush's actions and motivations regarding Iraq, Gitmo and in general how he directed national security to prevent further attacks. President Obama has not changed anything, Gitmo is still open, violence in Iraq and Afghanistan are on the rise, but the streets are empty of protestors. Are the lives lost now okay because your guy is in office? My observation of my Christian brothers and sisters on the Left in this area is that you are all just as hypocritical as we were when President Bush was in office. I hope that whenever it is he leaves the White House you all will reflect back on this time and come to the same conclusion I did: We were wrong in blind allegiance to a leader that spoke our language, and from now on listen to what God has to say first before we listen to a fellow fallible human being.

In the meantime, we must unite because the American Church has failed our country and in a much larger way, the world itself. We must unite under Christ or be judged by Christ. There are no other
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Mundane Egg
Decency is the new black.
11:03 AM on 08/16/2011
I see your points. I would say that as a Christian my view has nothing to do with the Right or the Left - Bush or Obama. The UMC, my church as well as W's., made a statement against the war in Iraq as an unjust war.
http://gbgm-umc.org/global_news/full_article.cfm?articleid=1405

As a Christian I will disagree and must speak out to anyone in leadership in America that continues this war. Total support and prayers for the soldiers and their families as well as all victims of this war.
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10:33 AM on 08/15/2011
Your story of the doctors observation is very well taken. I think (and remember Its me doing the thinking). Jesus on the cross and looks down what are you people "imaginationing." I will be back in three days and I will still love you. I hope the little girl will recover and her life on earth is "blessed my Alla." If there is a hell, she has done her time, as most soldiers of Alla do. In other words this "world" is a dangerous place.
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Bradley Scott Roon
not left or right: think for yourself
09:58 PM on 08/14/2011
This is an interesting concept and i hope it opens up some minds. I find it impossible to conceive a rational person can believe that sending our children off to die and kill in a foreign country is an intelligent idea. How can our children be killing the children, parents, friends, lovers, brothers, and sistersin another land, and expect to be bringing peace? That concept is so totally insane i can't believe anybody gives it credence!
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researcher
01:59 AM on 08/15/2011
for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$

history gives us example after example of wars for corp profits and to steal other nations resources which of course is a form of wealth generation for the few at the expense of the many. even the lives of the many.
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Bradley Scott Roon
not left or right: think for yourself
12:54 PM on 08/15/2011
Sometimes i slip into Big Picture mode and it has occurred to me that throughout history most of the wars past the tribal stage have been wars of acquisition on the one side and defense on the other. Because of this we have inherited a legacy which we seldom question. Some basic assumptions about society reveal solid beliefs that there will always be wars. I ask whether they have to be wars of economics and thievery. We accept Royalty and a ruling class structure, and because of the European and Asian royalty traditions we believe that we people are unqualified to make our own choices.
When we examine history we see that royalty began when some tribal member was particularly successful in either defending tribal territory/resources or conquering other tribes' territory/resources. These people changed the process so that their descendants would inherit their position regardless of qualification. Europe now spends how much to maintain their royalty? What do they give back to the people other than a sense of connection to a more violent past. I'm not saying ignore your history, i'm hoping we grow beyond that stage.
We now see the rich people programming the poorer people into believing that wealth somehow confers greater wisdom, intellect, and ability. They are setting themselves up to become a defacto elite class, despite the undeniable fact that every cent of their wealth is made and dependent upon the working majority.
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badders
Bad taste creates many more millionaires than good
07:04 PM on 08/14/2011
Why aren't Christians more concerned about war and peace? Ron Paul was the only Republican in the debate last week to emphatically denounce our wars. Seems like he's the only one, Repub or Dem, who think that this should be an issue in the election of our next President.
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badders
Bad taste creates many more millionaires than good
06:53 PM on 08/14/2011
It sounds like a lovely event but maybe the Iraqi doctor misspoke. Instead of imagination he probably wanted to say humanity.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:29 PM on 08/14/2011
Actually, Dubya lied about a *lot* of things he 'imagined' for us that got us into Iraq.
04:17 PM on 08/14/2011
We feel that the western hemisphere is loving and imaginative and kind. We are always under the impression that the war in Iraq / Afghanistan was an intervention to remove tyrants who could not be persuaded to step aside otherwise. We hope that the loving ways of the west, the freedom, the kindness, the good things like ice cream and doctors and women and men who are healthy and whole (without any trauma or scarring ) is the lot of all. The sound track is very nice. Who is the singer and what is the song?
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MrBadExample
Friends call me ‘exampleicious’
02:41 PM on 08/14/2011
The Christianity practiced in this country is a corporatized mish-mash of easy feel-good sentiments and no hard work at all. I find our insistence on a giant pentagon as emblematic of the problem--a trillion dollars yearly gone to weapons in a country where millions go to bed hungry.

The best quote of the decade on faith goes to a comedian, Steve Colbert: “If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus is just as selfish as we are or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition. And then admit that we just don’t want to do it.”
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lwolfmccall
I love God and Country
06:55 PM on 08/14/2011
Several things here,I like your ID(MrBadExample) not sure what that
means,but to me,it reminds me we are all sinners,none are good,or
deserving.We do have a watered down faith.The last,is Mr.Colbert,
I really dont like his style or comedy,but never have truer words
been spoken.
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badders
Bad taste creates many more millionaires than good
07:14 PM on 08/14/2011
Speak for yourself! If there is a God I'm going straight to heaven. I agree with you that most Christians are not deserving of special post life treatment. Atheists on the other hand were put on this earth with good morals. It's tough living among religious people but I still have hope. This ice-cream party guy seems nice.
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kauaiphil
From the Alamo, to Sausalito, to St. Thomas VI, to
02:25 PM on 08/14/2011
In the 20+ years that I worked as a carpenter, I was never ripped off by guys who drank, smoked dope, and chased women. They always paid me on time. The one and only instance where I got shafted (for $1,200) in wages was from a "born again' Christian. I guess God forgave him.
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Plankeyes
02:55 PM on 08/14/2011
If that is the case, he was not a very good 'born again' Christian....but who is.

There was once a time long ago when people where GIVEN the name "Christian" by OTHERS because of the way they acted...they walked the walk.

Today, too many of us CALL OURSELVES "Christians" but don't act any differently (and sometimes worse).

The best way to influence others it by how we live. While I am no where near perfect, I don't want to walk around telling people I am a Christian...I'd rather them ask "what is up with that guy...reliable, honest, and optimistic." Then if they ask we tell them why.

I am sorry for your experience.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
03:58 PM on 08/14/2011
When you see that little fish on someone's business card - hang on to your wallet.
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researcher
06:10 PM on 08/14/2011
yes if they have to use their religion to get work beware.

ripped off once in the last 25 years by a born again christian. he even called and threatened me on my answering machine when I asked for my money back in a nice way. he told so many lies it was hard to remember them all. he came with references, so much for references. ;-)

could be just one bad example but when I see those evangels and who they support for congress and president and their judgmentalism towards anyone not like them; me thinks there is more to this story of being a christian.

the christian deal is a good one. believe this and get a free trip to heaven and all suffering is over. beliefs are easy, changing one's level of consciousness development is a million times harder.
01:37 PM on 08/15/2011
The little fish I see on business cards, ads, commercials, etc., serves as excellent indicator of which businesses I need to avoid. Narrows my choices down quite effectively.
12:41 PM on 08/14/2011
Shane Claiborne has neither vision nor imagination. He can't imagine life without Christianity nor see that to heal most of the cuts in the face of humanity we must discard all religious knives. http://www­.thelastwh­y.ca/poem/
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Plankeyes
02:57 PM on 08/14/2011
Doug...I don't agree with everything Shane says...but I believe he has a very good grasp on what needs to be done to heal humanity. He is far from your typical "Christian".

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYgwNYf6Ok
04:01 PM on 08/14/2011
He is a Christian. That's all that matters. It is not possible to embrace a religion and grasp reality.
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11:38 AM on 08/14/2011
Sadly, religion, which should lead to ethical behavior, often does not. We co-signed three loans for our step-grandson for a car and for college. He defaulted on all three. The last time I talked to him, he told me that God had forgiven him. What he said was that his grandmother and I don't count. For him, because he is "born again," everything he does is preapproved by God.
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Elesha Ellison
Not all who wander are lost.
01:32 PM on 08/14/2011
Pre-approved? I am not so sure of that. I am not a religious person, but I do believe in the love of God for him, for you, for me. Perhaps, he has/ is not speaking well for himself here, but I get what he might have been trying to say.

When others turn away from us when we make mistakes, God knows, God understands, that our mistakes do not define us. We make mistakes, but we can make it right again. We should make more of an effort to allow others to make it right with us as well.

Religion can sometimes blind people from the reality of another, be it family or friend...but, I honestly feel he is just trying to move on. He is young. He is learning. There is a part of him that knows you do count, very much so...
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11:56 AM on 08/17/2011
If you pay attention to the so-called "born-again" Christians, you will find a strong sense of entitlement that they speak for God.
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researcher
06:20 PM on 08/14/2011
you did not help him you enabled him.

look deep the problem is not him but those that enable others in the name of goodness.

the best way to lose a friend or relative is to loan them money. your story is an all too common one.

if you wanted to help your step grandson then pay his way to college and buy him a car. loans to relatives are not loans they are give aways that creates hurt and separation within families.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
07:56 AM on 08/14/2011
Religion poisons everything ... even events with ice cream.
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08:35 AM on 08/14/2011
I used to attend a church that drummed up Sunday School attendance by giving away free ice cream once a month. When I questioned the practice I was politely urged to find another church.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
01:45 PM on 08/14/2011
See?

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researcher
06:21 PM on 08/14/2011
what church is that I love ice cream. do you have to sit through the sermon or was it given out first?
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09:32 AM on 08/14/2011
If religion makes people act better rather than worse, then I would say it's not a poison but a tonic. Also, I would say that the notion that "religion poisons everything" has really become an unimaginative, knee-jerk response. It begs the question: how exactly will this particular event poison anything? I am thinking of driving the 20 hours with my nine-year-old to attend--she would probably like the road trip, the event, and the ice cream. And there's a good chance she will remember the peace messages her whole life. We are members of a very activist church--lgbtq inclusion, environment, peace, etc.--so she would hear messages in sync with the values of our church. I can't possibly see this as poison but as a great opportunity to be inspired to beat our swords into plowshares, as they say.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:51 AM on 08/14/2011
It doesn't make people act better though, does it?

It encourages those who tend towards widow burning, witch drowning, inquisitioning, hand-off-chopping, liberty-denying...
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
07:31 PM on 08/14/2011
Religion poisons everything by presenting unsupported, made up ideas and stories as factual truth and coercing people into believing. This is usually done by instilling these ideas into vulnerable people (i.e. children, those who have just lost loved ones, etc). Religion is poison with the effect of creating the mind disease of delusion which it appears you have caught. I am sorry, but there is no known effective antidote. You are likely to live out your life basing important decisions for yourself on erroneous beliefs.
06:52 AM on 08/14/2011
You had me at the title.
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Dragosurfer
I surf, therefore I am…..
11:17 PM on 08/13/2011
I agree with the authors’ message of peace and tolerance, and I appreciate all their efforts (after all, this must be a grass roots effort). It's just too bad the religious zealots are not listening; rather they are plotting more suicide attacks with the help of government agents from Syria, Hamas, Yemen, Pakistan, and Jordan (just to name a few).

It's great that at least a few religious leaders are making an effort toward peace, however it's too bad that they cannot see that religion is the root cause of the problem to begin with.
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michelesda
My micro-bio is empty.
06:24 PM on 08/15/2011
“Religion! It’s given people hope, in a world torn apart by religion!” --- Jon Stewart