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Sharmine Narwani

Sharmine Narwani

Posted: November 12, 2009 12:24 PM

Did Clinton Just Change US Policy on Hezbollah?

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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appeared to break with US policy on Tuesday when she discussed Lebanese resistance group Hezbollah on the Charlie Rose show, identifying only the organization's "military wing" as a terrorist concern.

Discussing the recent negotiations between the five UN Security Council nations plus Germany -- P5+1 -- and Iran, Secretary Clinton told Rose:

"I mean, the Iranians not only worry us because of their nuclear program, they worry us because of their support for terrorism, their support for the military wing of Hezbollah, their support for Hamas, their interference in the internal affairs of their neighbors, trying to destabilize gulf countries and other countries throughout the greater region."

Hezbollah has been on the US State Department's List of Terrorist Organizations since 1999, with no distinctions thus far made between the group's military or political branches. Hezbollah itself rejects distinctions between its various bodies.

Earlier this summer, the British government did make that distinction however, placing only Hezbollah's military wing on its list of organizations banned under the 2000 Terrorism Act. Globally, only the United States, Canada and Israel view Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

A State Department spokeswoman, however, denied any policy shift, saying: "The Secretary's statement is fully consistent with our existing policy. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization."

But if Clinton's statement during the lengthy interview with Rose was a mere slip of the tongue, it was a very precise and specific gaff.

Which begs the question, is the US administration about to tweak its decade-long position on Hezbollah, and if so, why now?

The US Secretary of State's new phrasing comes exactly one day after the formation of a unity government in Lebanon, led by US-backed Prime Minister Saad Hariri.

The government's new cabinet includes ten ministerial positions for the Hezbollah-led opposition, two of which will go to Hezbollah members.

Any change in the US's position on the Lebanese resistance group could reflect this new reality: that Hezbollah participated in democratically held elections and is now part of Lebanon's official governmental body.

In the background, however, lurks another possible incentive for a US policy shift. A war of words between Israel and Hezbollah has persisted since the end of Israel's 33-day war on Lebanon in mid-2006. The stalemate that resulted was widely viewed as a defeat for Israel, a country that has relied on the psychology of victory to act as a deterrent for its Arab neighbors. And this perception of defeat has caused significant frustration within Israel's military establishment.

This past summer, Israeli rhetoric threatening Lebanon peaked when it became clear that although the pro-US coalition had won the Lebanese elections, a unity government including Hezbollah was inevitable.

"If Hezbollah joins the Lebanese government as an official entity, let it be clear that the Lebanese government, as far as we are concerned, is responsible for any attack -- any attack -- from its area on the state of Israel," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said as recently as August. These comments followed similar statements by Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon, increasing speculation that another military conflict could be in the offing.

Could the US administration be softening its stance on Hezbollah in order to give Lebanon's new government a shot at succeeding, and simultaneously warning Israel to back off? President Obama has a lot on his plate, juggling talks with Iran -- an Israeli foe and Hezbollah ally -- managing US military activities in Afghanistan and Iraq and trying to jumpstart peace talks between Palestinians and Israel. The last thing he needs is another large-scale armed conflict in the region to distract from his Mideast agenda.

In August, Obama's Assistant on Homeland Security and Counter-terrorism, John Brennan introduced more moderate language about the Lebanese resistance group at an event held at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in DC.

While reiterating the US position on Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, Brennan painted a more nuanced picture of the group:

"Hezbollah started out as purely a terrorist organization in the early '80s and has evolved significantly over time. And now it has members of parliament, in the cabinet; there are lawyers, doctors, others who are part of the Hezbollah organization ... And so, quite frankly, I'm pleased to see that a lot of Hezbollah individuals are in fact renouncing that type of terrorism and violence and are trying to participate in the political process in a very legitimate fashion."

In an article in The Nation a few days later, a State Department spokesman responded to Brennan's comments: "U.S. policy toward Hezbollah has not changed. We do not make any distinction between the political and military wings."

But his Secretary of State just did.

Whether Clinton on Tuesday deliberately meant to redefine US policy on Hezbollah or not, it seems the thinking within the administration has taken a turn anyway.

 

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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appeared to break with US policy on Tuesday when she discussed Lebanese resistance group Hezbollah on the Charlie Rose show, identifying only the organization's "...
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appeared to break with US policy on Tuesday when she discussed Lebanese resistance group Hezbollah on the Charlie Rose show, identifying only the organization's "...
 
 
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11:49 AM on 11/15/2009
"If Hezbollah joins the Lebanese government as an official entity, let it be clear that the Lebanese government, as far as we are concerned, is responsible for any attack -- any attack -- from its area on the state of Israel," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said as recently as August.

How can Secretary Clinton, Susan Rice & others in the Obama adm continue to support or take seriously in any way any individual who makes such threatening gestures to his neighbors? Let's hope that along with the BDS movement, more pressures will be put upon the Obama adm to distance itself from the right-wingers in Israel & their Christian Zionist enablers in the USA.
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07:36 PM on 11/15/2009
Huh? Perhaps you live in an upside reality but the threats come from Hezbollah who unless I'm mistaken are a Shia militia group who only a few months ago had turned their guns on the Lebanese people

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/06/20086226195408187.html

If the US should distance itself from anyone, it should be the Islamists who are causing havoc and chaos throughout the world and not an ally like Israel
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07:32 PM on 11/13/2009
Has Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoken to clarify the intent of her controversial remarks?
01:57 PM on 11/13/2009
A Palestinian (Arab) Nidal Malik Hasan,
using his American citizenship, infiltrated the US Military as an Army Psychiatrist, where he committed an act of terror by mass murdering his fellow soldiers in what was an ultimately unsuccessful suicide attack, as he lived.
If a Palestinian or any Muslim had committed this same act in Israel, Iraq, India, Pakistan or Afghanistan, this would have immediately been labeled an act of Terrorism and Hasan a Terrorist.
11:32 AM on 11/14/2009
Or... if he were a white Christian committing this crime on American soil, we would have said he "went postal."
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01:08 PM on 11/13/2009
"Lebanese resistance group Hezbollah " Resistance to Lebanon, you mean. They're a terrorist group who want the civilians of the country they're based in to be clobbered.
06:07 PM on 11/14/2009
This is the THIRD time I'm posting a response to this HuffPost blogger's post. What? Are they exempt from criticism??

Hezbollah is a resistance group that was created entirely as a result of Israel's occupation of Lebanon. Under every bit of international law there is, an indigenous population has the right to resist an occupying force.

Get over yourself. This terrorism propaganda is losing its credibility hard and fast. Now that Hezbollah is in the Lebanese government - and please remember that even the pro-US elements of the Leb gov't reject the idea that Hezb is a terrorist group - that fairy-tale is going to unravel quickly. As you can see by the article above. Even if Clinton denies it, the writing is on the wall - every one of our European allies has reached out to Hezbollah in the past two years. Wait and watch Washington follow suit.
07:03 AM on 11/13/2009
It is simple. A political party/social institution doesn't go together with a private army. Hezbollah can't it have both ways. It doesn't make sense to argue the organization is progressively joining the mainstream while it still has more fighters and firepower than the Lebanese army.
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09:43 AM on 11/13/2009
It is not simple. If it were simple we could all go home early.

"A political party/social institution doesn't go together with a private army"

Under Ideal circumstances you are correct, but then again, it's not that simple.

To use a well worn analogy (well-worn because of its direct applications to the situation) The Irish IRA had a political wing called Sinn Fein. By talking with SInn Fein it has been possibly to mollify the radical catholics of Northern ireland, who believed only a military solution to British rule in Northern Ireland was possible. Those radical elements have since joined the political debate and pu their weapons "beyond use". Northern Ireland is not a more peaceful and equitable place for all its citizens.

If Britian had continued with its "we do not negotiate with terrorists" policy northern Ireland would still be in the grip of the terrible decades long violence which poisoned relations between the two communities.

At the height of its powers The IRA was at least as capable as Hezbollah, however thankfully, the government in Westminister had more sense (and morality) than to pulverise Dublin and southern ireland with like the Israels have done with Lebanon.
09:42 AM on 11/16/2009
In the spirit of your analogy, that is precisely why, Israel, on the wake of the Gaza withdrawal, declared it would negotiate with Hamas if they abandoned their armed struggle and recognize Israel. Then, Hamas would be brought to the debate.
And a crucial difference, the IRA didn't pledge to destroy England and kill all British in their charter, did they? It may seem like a nuance, but it is not. Hamas considers all of Israel to be Palestinian territory. That is not a military stance, that is their POLITICAL stance.
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05:28 AM on 11/13/2009
“P5+1”

Taking the P1+ 55?
If we had some eggs, we could have ham and eggs. If we had any ham that is.
If we play make-believe games, we can pretend we are children. Or alternatively, we could start acting and talking to each other like adults.
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05:04 AM on 11/13/2009
The Secretary of State seems always to confuse situations when she speaks, rather than to clarify them. Why did she specify "the military wing of Hezbollah, as distinct from the whole organization? "

Why did a need to correct the record: "The Secretary's statement is fully consistent with our existing policy. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization."

Sharmine Narwani says, "But if Clinton's statement during the lengthy interview with [Charlie] Rose was a mere slip of the tongue, it was a very precise and specific gaff."

The Obama Administration would be wise to keep the gaffe-pron SoS quieter, and let a careful diplomat speak the frist time, rather than having to do frequent and embarassing sweep ups. .
01:08 AM on 11/13/2009
At this point everyone knows Hamas and Hezbollah aren't going anywhere. The best Israel can hope for is to integrate them into the political process and encourage further moderation in that way.

Israel has nowhere to go anymore. Their cards are played and the international community is united to keep them in line during the peace process. Further delay will be to their detriment, not Palestine's.
03:18 AM on 11/13/2009
Moreover, the genesis of Hezbollah stems from the egregious war crimes committed by Israel in Lebanon in the early 1980s (for which Ariel Sharon may have been charged by The Hague, had he not had a stroke--of course he would have thumbed his nose, but there was tons of evidence). Israel also supported Hamas over Fatah at first. These terrorist groups have formed because of the inhumane treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes in Lebanon. Just as we financed Saddam and Al Qaeda and now have to answer for it, so has Israel created its own mess.
05:59 PM on 11/14/2009
Agree with everything you say SiberianRat...just one question? Why do you persist in calling these groups terrorist organizations? Hamas and Hezbollah have every right to resist Israeli occupation and aggression. In terms of targeting civilians, there is far more evidence that Israel conducts deliberate acts of killing, collective punishment, extrajudicial detentions, torture, and other violations against civilian populations than these other groups - FAR more. It seems to me that Israel deserves the terrorist label more than any other state or non-state player in the Mideast - besides the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
06:30 AM on 11/13/2009
There is no Palestine.

What "peace process"?

What "political process" is possible with those who deny your right to exist, your right to live, your right to draw a breath?
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09:50 AM on 11/13/2009
Pretending they don't exist will not make the Palestinians go away, and further demonstrates your lack of belief in basic fairness and justice. Might makes right eh?
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06:42 PM on 11/12/2009
We can only hope the Obama Administration has begun to deal with the reality on the ground.

it would be a very good step towards finding a settlement for Palestine.

Refusing to talk to anyone is foolish. Especially groups that have demonstrated popular support.

Might not care for them. But it is better to deal with reality.

Because you are not going to have any kind of settlement without Hezbollah and Hamas. Better to engage them than to fight them.
09:57 PM on 11/12/2009
Especially as Hezbollahs are such good fighters!
03:20 AM on 11/13/2009
That's sensible and logical. Being sensible and logical is not usually what happens in these situations.
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06:28 PM on 11/12/2009
In his Farewell Address, George Washington admonished his fellow citizens to steer clear of a “passionate attachment” to another nation, as it could create “the illusion of a common interest...where no common interest exists.” Although it will take time, inevitably, America will act upon the wisdom of its founding father. Indeed, Israel is very much aware that a new wind is blowing in Washington. According to a high official with Israel’s current coalition government, the Obama administration “no longer seems to see Israel as a ‘special’ or ‘extraordinary’ state in the Middle East, with which the U.S. must maintain a different dialogue than with other states. ‘The feeling is that the dialogue and coordination with the Arab states and with Europe is today no less important to the U.S. and perhaps more so than with Israel, the official said.’” (Ha’aretz, 8 May 2009)
06:37 PM on 11/12/2009
Hear, hear! May that wind blow fast and strong...because I'm just about out of patience. Would be so nice to have Country Experts back in the State Department, NSC, Defense Department, etc., instead of the ideologues that have been flooding those institutions since the Reagan years.

I only worry that Israel's fears about the changing status quo will make it act more irrationally than usual. If you know the story of Masada, we may have more to fear from a nuke-laden Israel than we ever thought.
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07:37 PM on 11/12/2009
Ikatzenberg
I somewhat share your fears re what Seymour Hersh termed "The Samson Option," but remain optimistic.

Sooner or later, all great powers act in their own best interests and it is becoming increasingly obvious to America what its best interests are and are not. In 25 years: at least 3 billion Muslims (now 1.75 billion); 600-700 million Arabs, including 12 to 15 million Palestinians between the River Jordan and the Med. The implications for US foreign policy should be obvious to any thinking person. The handwriting is on the wall. Only the un/misinformed and/or zealots fail to comprehend what the future holds.
03:21 AM on 11/13/2009
Speaking of Ha'aretz, here's a fantastic recent editorial: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124928.html
03:44 PM on 11/12/2009
There seems little future in refusing, point blank, to enter discussions with the political divisions of "terrorist groups".
Certainly, when they have been admitted to governance, they represent the views of large numbers of people, some of whom will be "terrorists" and others not. Not talking with them disenfranchises large numbers of people.
If the US is about to admit that it is willing to engage Hezbollah in talks and recognise those facts then it is to be applauded.
Mrs. Clinton may recall that the British government was engaged in talks with the (political wing of) IRA for years before it officially admitted as much. Those talks led directly to the current situation, in which the peace process in Northern Ireland progresses well, and a return to the violence of days gone by is almost unthinkable.
The Israeli government (and others) would do well to note the futility of refusing to discuss matters of vital importance with those who oppose it, even if those people are violent extremists.
05:04 PM on 11/12/2009
Well said, Tony. I like the IRA analogy - its apt. I don't agree with your characterization of these kinds of opponents as violent extremists though, if in fact that is what you meant. There is nothing inherently violent about Hezbollah - they are a resistance group and were formed entirely as a result of Israel's occupation of Lebanon. Nor is there anything inherently "extremist" about them. They are probably one of the most tolerant Islamist political organizations in the Mideast. Their main partner in the Lebanese opposition is the leader of Lebanon's largest Christian party, Michel Aoun.
05:42 PM on 11/12/2009
Hi, Ikatzenberg,

I intended to put inverted commas around "violent extremists" to reflect that I think that is the Israeli government view, but hit "Post" instead of "Edit", and thought I would just let it stand. Perhaps I should have added another comment to clarify the point, but HP is so clunky that the effort seemed disproportionate to the advantage gained!!

I expect, at any moment, that hasbara factions will post objections to the IRA analogy as being totally irrelevant, but then, they would, wouldn't they? It doesn't fit the "unique" position that they like to believe affects Israel uniquely, and they do like to be unique.

Meantime, Israel is anticipating violence, as usual, instead of grabbing any chance of discussing a viable future by talking without preconditions. And the Palestinian factions are quite capable of being equally intransigent, before there is a clamour that they too are guilty of failing to talk (though it is difficult when the people you need to talk with won't take part).
09:04 PM on 11/12/2009
Hezbollah's charter has an entire section regarding why Israel must be destroyed.

That doesn't say "extremist" to me, and it certainly bespeaks a certain tolerance of other cultures. How do you see that?
06:40 AM on 11/13/2009
What is there to talk about, with Hezbollah and Hamas? A ten year "hudna", to be broken when Hamas feels strong enough to realize its goal of exterminating Israel and its people? A plan to congregate all the Jews in Israel so that, as Nasrallah said, his genocidal plans would be more efficiently executed?

Hamas and Hezbollah, while having trained the IRA, are nowhere near as rational as the IRA, and their goal is much more vile and visicious.
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10:00 AM on 11/13/2009
"Hamas and Hezbollah, while having trained the IRA, are nowhere near as rational as the IRA"

On what basis? your adhoc psychological profiling of Hezbollas leadership is questionable.
Their goal is freedom, I can understand that freedom for anyone but the jews is "vile" and "viscious" to you but can you understand that not everyone shares this opinion?
02:37 PM on 11/12/2009
A number of katyushas have been shot into Israel this year. Israel has made a differentiation between Hezbullah and the Lebanese government, but now has said that since Hezbullah is part of the Lebanese government, this government is responsible for any and all attacks on Israel. Appears straight forward to me. If a branch of a government of a next door country shoots off katyushas, then the country shoots off katyushas, and de facto declares war. And, yes, we do have to deal with facts on the ground in a realistic manner.Usually when a country invades in a military fashion, or shoots off projectiles into a neighboring country, the realistic evaluation is that they have declared war and that there is now war.
03:22 PM on 11/12/2009
Israel flies military aircraft into Lebanon every day, not just into Hezbollah or Shiite areas, but ALL over the country - over Beirut, over Tripoli, everywhere. This has been going on for years. So don't bother with the Hezbollah-is-the-aggressor propaganda. Lebanon is the only country I know of in the Middle East that has it's sovereignty violated on a daily basis - and Israel is the clear violator here. So next time Hezbollah or any group in Lebanon shoots off rockets into Israel, don't go crying about it.

Speaking of which, why isn't Israel on our list of terrorist states? Oh yeah, because they bought our Congress.
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03:40 PM on 11/12/2009
Shooting rockets vs violating airspace...
Hmm...

"Oh yeah, because they bought our Congress."

I would like you to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-controlled_U.S._government

Then think about what you just said.
06:46 AM on 11/13/2009
Israel overflies Lebanon because Lebanon allows a fighting force to exist within its borders, whose goal, and past attempts, aim at the extermination of the Jewish state and its people. It would be criminal of Israel not to take whatever steps are necessary to protect its people.

Do you honestly compare an overflight with a rocket attack that kills?
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02:35 PM on 11/12/2009
"their interference in the internal affairs of their neighbors," ???

Oh, like the USA isn't interfering?
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02:13 PM on 11/12/2009
Sounds like a case of realpolitik on the part of SoS Clinton and the Obama administration. We may not like the fact that democratic processes implemented in the Middle East often result in fundamentalist groups gaining power, but we have to deal with the results in a realistic manner.
02:08 PM on 11/12/2009
Clinton works for Israel above all else and as a friend of the christian fundamentalist sect The Family she is like the rest of the country more and more right wing.