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Shayana Kadidal

Shayana Kadidal

Posted: August 24, 2009 08:56 PM

Today saw the long awaited release of a report by the CIA's Office of Inspector General (the agency's internal watchdog) investigating the use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (waterboarding and so forth) against detainees. The report's release had been delayed three times already, reportedly in response to CIA objections to the new disclosures (an earlier version had been released that seemed to be over 90 percent redacted; this one's closer to half blacked out). The release seemingly was timed to Attorney General Holder's decision to reopen a dozen or so prisoner abuse cases, made simultaneously, but not accompanied by a document many expected to be released -- a report by the Office of Inspector General of the Justice Department on whether John Yoo and other Office of Legal Counsel lawyers violated their professional ethical duties when they wrote memos claiming the administration's proposed torture techniques were legal.

Many of us in the human rights community were hopeful that the two releases would be tied together because that might be a signal that (1) the torture memos themselves would not be considered a plausible defense for individuals who implemented these techniques in the field, and (2) DOJ might eventually be willing to look at whether those lawyers were effectively active participants in formulating the torture policies, and therefore potentially criminally culpable themselves. To the extent this signals a lack of willingness to (eventually) go after the highest level defendants, it's troubling. It's normal for criminal investigations to start with the small fish, but prosecutions of higher level officials who planned, authorized and encouraged the use of torture techniques are essential if we are to ensure that this episode of rampant lawbreaking is not repeated during the next episode of terrorist attack-inspired hysteria.

The CIA OIG report released today documents an internal investigation that was focused on only those incidents that exceeded the rules set out in the Office of Legal Counsel torture memos. So waterboardings that exceeded even the limits set out in the torture memos -- e.g. waterboarding KSM 183 times (page 104) -- are noted with concern, as are times when interrogators engaged in "improvisation" -- threatening to use a power drill on Abd al-Rahim Al Nashiri, pointing an unloaded gun at his head, faking an execution of a detainee in the next cell. "Improvisation" (pages 6, 69) and abuses by "contractors" (see pages 29, 43, 69, 103) without "hands on training" (page 32) in the torture techniques are thus spotlighted. Again, this takes at face value the idea that the legal advice in the memos could be relied on in good faith by anyone with a nickel's worth of common sense.

The very idea of technical legal definitions of what constitutes torture is anathema to the legal regime that governs torture. Torture is such a grave violation that the law intentionally avoids doing what Yoo and the authors of the torture memos did - defining specific techniques that stand just to either side of the line. Instead prohibited treatment is defined broadly, in part so as to create a cordon sanitaire around the worst abuses, to make sure we never get close to the line. Although the OIG report takes the idea of the fine line separating torture from legal "enhanced interrogation techniques" at face value, Attorney General Holder should not. Indeed, it's not hard to see how the line-drawing of the memos may have encouraged the attitude that "improvised" techniques might also be found legal.

It bears repeating here that those officials high and low who participated in torture of detainees have damaged our national security. They did so even in terms of the information they extracted - the 9/11 Report itself makes reference to the fact that kernels of truth were surrounded by an "ocean of lies" produced by torture, and we now know that false information extracted under torture may well have helped lead us into Iraq (indeed, the great unwritten story of the torture program is whether it was in fact conceived to produce false information for that purpose). Moreover, it makes allied governments less willing to work with us and hands our enemies a recruiting tool. The communities from which we urgently seek cooperation from in hunting down Bin Laden are less likely to provide law enforcement with street-level intelligence if they feel that the new administration hasn't departed from torture policies targeted at Muslim detainees and their perceived sensibilities. Similarly, a whitewash of the Bush torture team will tell Muslim communities here and abroad that they don't deserve the protection of the criminal justice system.

There's a great illustration of this in the report. At page 79 it tells the story of a July 2003 visit by a CIA officer to a religious school, seeking any information the people there could provide about a local IED attack days before. In what could be a scene out of Platoon, the agent becomes offended by a teacher's smiling and laughter -- perhaps nervous, as in the film -- and beats him with his rifle butt in front of 200 students. Today's stories about the use of the power drill and mock executions (a favorite technique of Arab despotic regimes) with Al Nashiri will be seen and noticed by millions.

Interestingly, Al Nashiri is not mentioned in the OLC torture memo of May 30, 2005 (authored by Steven Bradbury), which says that the question of whether these techniques violate the U.S.'s obligations under the Convention against Torture depends on whether they also violate the constitution's prohibitions on torture, which in turn depends on whether they "shock the conscience." And that in turn, says Bradbury, depends on whether the abuse is justified by the perceived threat faced by the government. (Recall that John Yoo famously answered a question about whether it was legal to crush a suspect's child's testicles to get the suspect to talk by saying "it depends on why the President wants to do that"--the same logic at work.) The idea that the measures were effective was thus made central to the justifications for their legality. The presumption -- against centuries of practical experience -- that torture somehow did "work" in extracting the truth from its victims underlies the torture memos. The OIG report released today contains a section on effectiveness of the torture program, and while the introduction of the section indicates that "some concern" about the effectiveness of the "enhanced interrogation techniques" (page 85), it seems that whatever negative conclusions the OIG came to still remain redacted, since nothing that is unredacted in the section expresses any such concerns (see pages 85-91).

What has been released in today's newly-redacted version of the report is a great deal of detail about particular abuses -- threats of rape, of killing children, of blowing cigar smoke into detainee's faces until they retch, in addition to the power drills and mock executions. We've long said that if you televise an execution that will be the end of public support for the death penalty. In a similar way, one hopes that the more the reality of torture is put before the American public, the less support there will be for it. When the issue is presented -- as in the earliest leaked torture memos -- as a legal abstraction, it's easier for the public to rationalize the idea that nothing wrong is taking place. It's interesting that this idea comes full circle in today's story -- Holder was said to have been personally repulsed by what he heard had taken place in our names, which influenced his decision to appoint a prosecutor, and the special prosecutor he has appointed has been investigating the CIA's destruction of videotapes of torture sessions for 19 months now. If those videotapes existed today, surely making them public would expose the torture program for what it really was -- not a program designed by experts in accordance with refined legal line-drawing but an outright moral abomination. (Interestingly, the report (page 37) indicates that 11 of the tapes (including two waterboarding sessions) were blank -- shortly before recounting how the waterboarding of KSM exceeded the legal memo's parameters in a way that made it more appalling to witness ("for real" and "more poignant and convincing").)

Waterboarding and the power drill will get the most attention here, but perhaps the threats to children and female family members will be perceived as the worst in the Arab world. KSM supposedly was unmoved by the threats of death against his sons, who were captured in a house raid that just missed KSM himself some months before his capture. (Their whereabouts are unknown today.) One of our client's brothers was held in detention at a facility where the Pakistani guards told him that the two boys (aged roughly 6 and 9) had been held and threatened with stinging insects placed on their legs to frighten them into telling where their father was. I suppose this is the inverse of the "ticking time bomb" scenario -- if our opponents accuse us of being naïve and absolutist for insisting that torture is never expedient, one response is that on their logic anyone, including innocent children, can be -- and have been -- tortured in pursuit of whatever ends the president wishes to pursue -- as Yoo put it, whether its legal just "depends on why the president wants to do that."

Of course, that isn't the legal standard; in fact the law is crystal clear: never, under any circumstances, with no exceptions, can torture be used. Yoo often claims he was just providing legal advice and implies that he disagreed with the policy decision to walk right up to the line defining torture. He's right about the latter: Torture is bad policy as well.

Where do we go from here? The President's other announcement today -- moving control of interrogations out of the hands of the CIA and more firmly under White House control -- is a step in the right direction. Human rights groups have long called for the CIA to get out of the detention and interrogation business -- covert operations are their supposed expertise anyway, not running jails or getting inside the minds of criminal conspirators in custody.

Prosecutions are also an important first step. Unfortunately, much of the discussion about prosecution has made it out to be vindictive -- an attempt by the new administration to punish its vanquished political opponents, born out of an unwillingness to let what's past remain past. But the criminal justice system is about deterring future lawbreakers as much as it is about punishing past lawbreakers. The only way to make sure these abuses never happen again is to prosecute those who broke the law. To do otherwise would perpetuate official approval of torture policies by telling future officials that they can break the universal laws against torture without any fear of consequences for themselves -- or, alternately, that all they need to do is get some 5-cent lawyer to give them transparently false legal advice, after which they can break the law with impunity. We can write as many statutes and sign as many treaties as we want banning torture, but, as the last eight years have shown, when officials feel that there is no chance that their own freedom will ever be in jeopardy from future criminal prosecutions for violating those laws, they will show no compunction in carrying out abuses at the direction of their superiors.

 
 
 
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03:40 PM on 08/26/2009
What sickens me about allowing Cheney to try to frame the notion that 'torture' 'worked' which has not been proven as of yet even with the release of the report, is that 'torture is illegal'. There was really no justification for having the CIA which was not trained for this kind of interrogations and given them outrageously illegal instruction to commit these acts in order to gain information. There is no proof the information resulting for CIA 'torture' has ever 'saved lives'.

It is a fact that prior to Cheney et al, the CIA directive was that they would never use information from any nation or source that was derived by torture because it was 'unreliable'.

Torture is illegal. Cheney is a criminal. If we don't hold him accountable I wish that the international courts would.
06:12 PM on 08/25/2009
as i understand the report it actually does vindicate bush cheney in that the 3 people who were waterboarded actually saved lives. unless of course you dont live in the u.s. of course. hey maybe we can look into the pardoning of the biggest tax cheat in history, by clinton at the urging of holder for monetary or political gain as richs wife was a huge donor to the clintonistas. and when obamas out then that administration can look into obamas ties to acorn. what a precedent.
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sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
07:52 PM on 08/25/2009
So torture is OK because Clinton pardoned a tax cheat? Now that's real good logic. What would they have done if he had pardoned a murderer? Burn them at the stake?
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03:02 PM on 08/25/2009
I wish people worried about fixing the economy and putting people back to work as much as getting even with Bush and his administration. I am so tired of "gotcha politics."
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Dosadi
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06:03 PM on 08/25/2009
If we don't punish people who do things like this it will never stop. This is not about getting even and you know it. This is about bringing to justice those who lied to us about weapons and people. Bush and Cheeney caused the deaths of over 4000 of America's children by lying us into a useless war. There was never any evidence of WMD, nuclear programs or ties to terrorist organizations. None, never, it did not exist. Everytime someone questioned the Bush doctrine they were called unpatriotic. We went to war and spent billions based on a whim that Bush and Cheeney had. Now the man who told us all that there were WMD and that we knew where they were is garnering attention again. Why? This man is a liar and a murderer. Why are we listening to him as if he has something important to say. To give Cheeney's claims a spot on the evening news is a travesty of the mind and an assault on everything that is moral.
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sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
07:55 PM on 08/25/2009
Why don't we just shut the whole legal system down until we straighten out the economy? Release all prisoners, lay off all of the cops, and shutter the courts. That should do it huh?
01:34 PM on 08/25/2009
I think too much is being made of whether some people "escape justice."
While I would prefer that everyone who was at all involved in this gets sent to the hague, I think the most important thing is that some of the people involved are punished. Why? To create risk.
If everyone gets off scot free, then the next time a president wants people tortured (even Americans who disagree with his/her politics), there will be a perception of immunity and safety. However, if even one person is sent to prison for this, the perception of every future would be pawn will be "am I the next England?" This will also give cover to people who morally oppose torture who are being pressured by their bosses, they can say "I won't go to prison for you, and will blab if you try to force me," which will make it harder to find people to perform these acts.
At least one person has committed suicide to avoid participating in torture, we owe it to her memory to push back against these practices in any way we can!
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Dosadi
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06:06 PM on 08/25/2009
Good point. As a country we, the People, have to form one voice and shout "We are better than this."
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sviolette
Cops Pepper Spraying the Constitution!!!
08:02 PM on 08/25/2009
So why would we have to do anything more? As you eluded to England, she did serve time and her boyfriend is still in jail. Is that where it should end? How will we know when we have gotten enough? Why don't we just do what is right and try any and all that participated in torture?
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anachoret
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02:52 AM on 08/25/2009
Thank you for your work, Mr Kadidal.

Obama, it seems, will do what he is politically capable of doing. No more.

I think he wants to do the right thing, but, for all the right against the left talk I hear, it's clear that Obama is listening to the centrists.

I think what the right has done is disgusting, but nothing has been more disappointing than what the middle hasn't done.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
07:00 AM on 08/25/2009
The middle did their very best for years to elect Obama and elect a democratic congress in the hopes that the overwhelming political power they would have, coupled with a vocal segment of the population demanding accountability for the Bush gang's many abuses of power - would lead to investigations.

It is the Obama administration that has so far let the middle down. In this case, the old maxim "you get the government you deserve" does not hold true.

Another old maxim: "look to the future, not the past" has been their mantra, however: "if we forget the past we are condemned to repeat it".

We dont want revenge Mr Obama, we want justice.
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anachoret
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03:34 PM on 08/25/2009
With all due respect, because I think the middle has showed up for elections, I think the "vocal segment of population demanding accountability" has been largely the left (or been branded so), not the middle. As the left has been told over and over, you have to make him do it, and showing up for elections is not enough.
If the triangulators saw that playing the middle wouldn't work this time, they wouldn't be doing it. They know they'll piss-off the left, but, as Rahm likes to say, that's good, it makes you look like a centrist and and left isn't big enough to make the difference. They''ve played this game for years.
The noise machine from the right will show up for any event, and get tons of coverage. The left will show up, and get none... The center has to move visibly, or there will just be more status quo.
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01:50 PM on 08/25/2009
I disagree. I think Obama has no real concern with justice in this matter. He might do what is convenient but he's already signaled that as far as he's concerned some people really are above the law.
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anachoret
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03:43 PM on 08/25/2009
Perhaps you're right.
Even so, if the public made it "inconvenient" to perpetuate this cycle, perhaps he would represent that, as it would be necessary to get a second term.
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Dosadi
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06:10 PM on 08/25/2009
Maybe, after all he is a politician and the purpose of politics is to elliminate the cut and dry and delve into the world of spin. We all knew that is has been illegal to waterboard someone for decades but the politicians insisted on pretending there was something to debate about. As my 8 year old so elequently put it "What happened to right and wrong daddy?" It is the peoples falut for letting the politicians get away with dodging the truth. We must start to hold these officials accountable if we are to keep our country strong.
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ostrom808
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01:17 AM on 08/25/2009
"moving control of interrogations out of the hands of the CIA and more firmly under White House control -- is a step in the right direction."

You're kidding, right? You find it COMFORTING that an investigative group that answers ONLY to the Chief Executive is a move in the proper direction?

You haven't learned much.
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Dosadi
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06:12 PM on 08/25/2009
It is far better than having an investigative group that answers to no one, don't you agree?
12:26 AM on 08/25/2009
I just finished reading the report and it is disgusting. The flawed logic, the systemic failure and incompetence. The complete breakdown of standards of treatment. This is torture and abuse on an industrialized scale. How did my country come to this? I can not get the spectacle of Florida 2000 out of my head, A well oiled political party hijacked the United States by hook and by crook; the men who were subjected to this got nutin' on you. You "conservatives" have no reason, no right whatsoever, no excuse for your behavior then or now. You can take your hate radio your propaganda network your media sycophants and your tea bagging cowards and choke on them. Every generation has its own atrocities, but this generation has been given many, and all so completely avoidable. The Bush administration and Republican rule has been a disgrace and should this nation find its way from this deliberate self inflicted poisoning history will look at you people as a stain that can never be washed. I was blown up for my country in Khobar Towers and I have more sympathy and respect for these men than I will ever have for a single one of you tro//s.
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Dosadi
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06:13 PM on 08/25/2009
Fanned.