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Jewish Conversion and Relationships: He's Just Not That Into Your God

Posted: 09/13/11 01:49 PM ET

It took only three words for my friend Karen to lose her breath, plunging into serious hyperventilation mode.

"I don't know," said Jeff.

Her extremities began to tingle. "What ... do ... you ... mean ... YOU ... DON'T ... KNOW?"

"I don't think I can go through with the conversion," he said, squarely looking her in the eye. For a flicker of a moment, she thought she heard the word "conversation," but there it was: the weightier C word.

Two years earlier, Karen and Jeff, both in their late 20s, had met through work acquaintances. The attraction was instantaneous, as was their connection. To Karen, who had been raised in a Modern Orthodox Jewish home, her religion was an absolute. To Jeff, it was a part of Karen, whom he loved. He began to fervently explore her religion and truly became interested in studying the Torah. He began to know many of the laws and texts better than Karen did from her years in religious schools. However, as all who are familiar with Orthodox Jewish conversions can attest to, the process is deliberately a difficult one.

"Becoming part of the Jewish people is a serious matter," says Rabbi Shlomo Slatkin, MS, LCPC and Certified Imago Relationship Therapist. Rabbi Slatkin, aka "The Relationship Rabbi," spends his days counseling couples. "Even for those who are born Jewish, it is a life-long endeavor learning how to live as a Jew. The conversion process is deliberately difficult because we need to make sure that the prospective convert is sincere about this complete transformation."

Slatkin explains that a convert is considered like a newborn baby, born anew and with a new soul. "We want to make sure that a prospective convert understands this and realizes that they can remain a non-Jew and still merit the world to come if they live a righteous life. Becoming a Jew is an awesome responsibility and we want to make sure that they are prepared for this."

Jeff sat down to learn several times a week with a rabbi. Several times a week his intentions were questioned by members of Karen's community. And several times a week, Jeff's shell cracked a little, then a little bit more. His work schedule began to be affected and his relationship suddenly seemed to require more effort: He was regularly defending his zeal for Judaism it seemed to Karen's and her parents' acquaintances. Since Karen wasn't one of those girls who regularly raved about her own religious beliefs, a drop of doubt fell for Jeff. The drop became a rivulet.

"Interfaith relationships, as well as relationships in which one is more passionate about the same religion than the other [i.e. one is Orthodox Jewish, the other is Jewish but not at all religious], are extremely complicated," says Dr. Fran Walfish, child and family psychotherapist and author of "The Self-Aware Parent." "[Those types of relationships] need careful exploration and discussion prior to marriage and children. A detailed dialogue about how each one wants to raise their future children should take place early in the relationship. Both individuals need to be close to center, rather than polarized or extreme in their religious practices and beliefs. If one is to the right, then many complex challenges arise that include where the kids will go to school, will they be baptized or bar mitzvahed, how to celebrate holidays, attendance at church or synagogue -- not to mention in-laws and extended family pressures."

Dr. Walfish goes on to say, "All this said, I have treated couples in which both were close to center at the onset of the relationship. After marriage, when a baby was born, one in a couple that I was counseling became more attached to her religion. She enrolled her child in a Catholic school behind her Jewish husband's back and against earlier commitment to public education for their kids. Although the husband could eventually forgive her, no one could sway the wife to return to her earlier, middle-of-the-road commitment. It was a deal-breaker for the marriage that sadly ended in divorce."

Rabbi Slatkin, who sees many Jewish couples in his practice, says that even though these couples are not interfaith, the religious disparity can be enough to cause major tensions. He does not recommend that people initially get involved in a relationship where one person is Orthodox, for example, and the other is not. There are enough religious issues that can arise with Orthodox couples alone, he explains, "especially where one is more 'into it' than the other. To get into a situation that will add another layer of conflict would not be wise. Keeping a kosher home, Shabbos, the laws of family purity, sending to Jewish day schools, at a minimum is a major lifestyle difference. If one person is not interested in these things, it will be very challenging."

Rabbi Slatkin adds that this is not to say it can't be done, but that to enter into a relationship with these types of issues from the start is precarious. "I do not believe in forcing people to change as it only leads to resentment," he says, "If one gets married thinking the other will change or be OK with things, it won't happen. When we fall in love, we say a lot of things. Once we get married and the inevitable power struggle arises, these issues may become a bone of contention." For those already in relationships of this sort, Rabbi Slatkin says that it is possible for the relationships to work if both are committed to open discussions and learning how to understand one another. "I don't advise looking for such a relationship in the first place," he adds.

Jeff and Karen are not together today. After much heartache, a few breakups and attempts to reunite, they both found new partners and moved on. But did they really? When I speak to Karen, who no longer speaks to Jeff, but stayed in touch with him for several years after their breakup, she says that a part of her will always love Jeff...

...and a part of Jeff will always love Judaism.

 

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JewishPhysician
fraternity, trust, discourse
07:58 AM on 09/14/2011
Conversion is a complicated issue. In the book of Ruth, ruth became Jewish by simply taking up our ways and then with marriage. There were no rabbinic authorities. Today, we have conversions in the orthodox vision of our religion that are considered pure and those of the conservative and reform are considered impure and invalid in much of the religous world. I question the worthiness and humility of our nation in that if a rabbi of the reform faith can form a Torah Marriage, why can not the same rabbi have the authority to bring a person to conversion under Torah either. True there are laxities and ideally, the best way to convert is by an orthodox authority who will teach you the best way to really keep the ways of the jewish people and honor our relationship with Hashem. But to think that there are many young jewish people who may be in a relationship like the one in this article, I can see how an orthodox conversion may be just "too much" for someone to engage upon. And not to mention that a child of a reform conversion of the mother is not considered jewish by many of our religious circles, I think that there is something very wrong with the truth that our nation is possessing to share with the children of our nation in terms of who is jewish after a conversion. Get it together.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
09:09 PM on 09/13/2011
I would never recommend conversion for the sake of marriage, whether that's converting from no particular religion/belief or from one previously strongly held. My father had been a Methodist lay preacher but decided to convert to Catholicism when he married my mother - something she did NOT want him to do. He was more Catholic than the Pope for a few months and then dumped it on Mum during her first pregnancy that he was returning to Methodism, but would graciously allow her to have a Catholic baptism for the child IF it was a girl.
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JewishPhysician
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08:02 AM on 09/14/2011
I agree, but there is something considered important and that is commitment. Ruth said that she would take up the ways of our people. There are unfortunately or actually in the case where the spouse successfully converts and keeps the ways of the jewish faith, fortunately many relationships which begin with different religous affiliations. A committed partnership should be a good reason to convert rather than a stigma that one must find another fiance.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
04:35 AM on 09/15/2011
I'm glad my old man wasn't trying to convert from Methodism to Judaism. He'd have made an even bigger mess of that, I have no doubt. But converting wholly for the sake of one's partner seems the wrong basis, to me. What if there's nothing about the faith or practices you're converting to that speaks to you, regardless of your love for the other person? I think the young man in this story was wise to back out while he could.
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Nate35
06:22 PM on 09/13/2011
I'm not interested in a long term relationship with anyone who puts their imaginary friend before me, though I guess I would break a few commandments with them.
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wbthacker
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03:49 PM on 09/13/2011
Karen was being unreasonable by demanding Jeff adopt her religion. She must have known the obstacles Judaism places before converts. When Jeff buckled under that pressure a reasonably person should have said, "You tried very hard to become a Jew for me. You've proved how much you love me and respect my faith. Forget converting, I'll marry you as you are."

I suspect that didn't happen because the Jewish church and community are so adamant against marrying non-Jews. Perhaps Karen knew she'd be ostracized by her family and community. It happens often enough, and that's the real tragedy.

If you think an interfaith marriage is too difficult I respect your decision not to enter into one. But when you push that thinking onto someone else -- your child, a friend, a member of your church -- it stops being personal choice and becomes bigotry.

It's bigotry if I tell a white friend, "I'll lose respect for you if you marry an African-American". Isn't it bigotry to tell a Jewish friend "I'll lose respect if you marry a Christian"? This doesn't mean you can't advise them of the difficulties of a mixed marriage. But if you can't tell them, "I'll support you no matter what you decide," you're part of the bigotry.

I wonder how many of Karen's family and congregation told her, "I'll support you no matter what," and how many said, "I won't respect you if you marry a non-Jew."
05:43 PM on 09/13/2011
And I suspect you don't know diddly about Judaism when you refer to the Jewish church. As such, you should avoid speaking about what a MO Jew "should have" said or done. People are allowed to think differently than you.

People are also allowed to set all kinds of dealbreakers in their relationships. Religion--which can include your worldview, values, lifestyle, culture, food, freetime, holidays, how you raise your kids--is an important one to many people. For those who think it is important, it can be non-negotiable.
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wbthacker
Can YOU pass the Turing Test?
02:52 PM on 09/14/2011
"People are allowed to think differentl­y than you."

That was never in question.

Set any deal-breaker you want for YOUR relationships. If you don't like blacks or gentiles or atheists, feel free not to marry one.

I'm saying that if you, your rabbi, or your church doctrine tells another person, "You must not marry a black or a gentile or an atheist, and we will punish you if you do", that is overt, institutionalized bigotry. It's still your right to do it, but I see it as a moral flaw.

This is by no means limited to Judaism. Almost every religion pushes this sort of bigotry onto its members.
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JewishPhysician
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08:05 AM on 09/14/2011
There are many intermarriages where the spouse does not convert. True they may be happy relationships, it is still a violation of the Jewish faith for the spouse who is Jewish. Perhaps this is not an issue they wish to consider or care to sympathatize, but the fact is if you read Deuteronomy 28, there are curses that befall those who do not keep the Laws as we are commanded to follow.
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OneFish
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09:44 PM on 09/20/2011
Neuteronomy 28 means nothing.
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nlightenup
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03:01 PM on 09/13/2011
Hmmm. I question the wisdom of putting so much emphasis on couples being matched not just as to religion, but also as to their level of engagement with their religion. Granted there are difficulties when differences in people's backgrounds or current interests generate tension. But a couple matched on religion and degree of involvement with it today will, shortly enough, become mismatched. One or the other will eventually become more or less engaged with religious expression and observance, and if they have started out thinking they were matched forever on those things, one partner's change will feel like a betrayal to the other.

The reality, as far as I've ever been able to see it, is that couples need to learn to expect that each other will change over the course of a lifetime relationship, and change several times. While having a lot in common is helpful, I think the more important factor is accepting that change will come, and agreeing how they will manage that change.

My second family--the people I stayed with as a kid when my parents went out of town--was Jewish. He grew up Orthodox. She grew up Ultra-Reform. His family called her a shikse. They had 60 years together before she died of Alzheimer's, with her husband, in his 80's, having been her primary caregiver at home for several years.

They were committed to managing change to keep them together.
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ChicagoKev
02:03 PM on 09/13/2011
Interfaith relationships are incredibly hard to make work. Even when one partner isn't active in their faith. Marriage is hard enough without adding this complexity. If you are single, I strongly advise that you marry within your faith whatever it may be, including atheists.
08:40 AM on 09/19/2011
Your comment about complexity is exactly what my parents used to tell me many years ago. It didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now. BTW, they said the same thing about interracial marriage. The data I have seen shows that money and infidelity are the main reasons for divorce, not inter-marriage. News Flash: all marital relationships are hard to make work. My marriage (with someone more or less equally irreligious as me) works and those of many of my inter-faith friends are working fine going on 30 years.
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ChicagoKev
10:58 AM on 09/19/2011
Thanks for not reading the post and twisting it to suggest something I did not say. I didn't say that an interfaith relationship can't work. I said nothing about interracial marriages.

"News flash" - I also stated "marriage is hard".

Having a marriage "with someone more or less equally irreligious as" you is EXACTLY what I recommended in post. Thanks for proving my point.

You obviously have a bone to pick with someone but it isn't me.