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Got Maturity? Fighting Is Tricky When You're Older

Posted: 08/30/2012 8:03 am

A few days before my 38th birthday, my best friend and I were enjoying a gossip session on her backyard terrace. We sipped wine, nibbled on cheese and she told me about her father's latest fight with his live-in girlfriend. He was 78, she was 73.

"This might be it," my friend chuckled. "Last night she locked him out of the house and threw his suits, shirts, underwear, and shaving stuff out of their bedroom window." We guffawed. Old people acting like -- well, the rest of us. How gross is that?

Now I know that senior love affairs are every bit as physically intense and emotionally draining as those of the young.

Older couples' brawls, not unlike those of their younger counterparts, are usually triggered by minor annoyances. Something that would ordinarily be written off is magnified (she stayed too long at the office; he threw his dirty socks on the floor). Underneath lie the substantive reasons, the ones that are rarely acknowledged.

All couples battle, and sometimes someone packs up and heads for the door. Here's where it gets more complicated for post 50s than it is for younger pairs. Google "breakup" and you'll find a ton of advice for 20- and 30-somethings, all of which adds up to, "Get over him/her and get ready for your next love."

This is good advice for someone who's looking to live out another six or seven decades. But time will be less generous to 50-plus couples. What if a serious fight leads to a permanent break? If you're over 60 you could be alone for the rest of your life. This is especially true if you're a woman.

According to a Harvard Health Publications special report on sexuality and aging, "a woman's chances of finding a new mate in her age bracket dwindles yearly," and because there are only 7 men for every 10 women by the time we reach 65, women are in for a scramble if they want to find a partner. Numbers aren't the whole story, of course, and men face barriers too, including things like performance anxiety and guilt about starting a late-in-life relationship.

No, the answer isn't "Don't fight." Fights happen. The answer is more like, "Keep fights reasonable and get over them fast." Reasonable means:

  • no name calling
  • no cheap-shot accusations of sexual ineptitude
  • no invidious comparison to persons dated earlier, then discarded for cause


Some time ago, before we learned better, I had an unreasonable fight with my live-in partner, whom I like to call PASHA. "You're demanding -- exactly like ________ was!" he stormed. I was dumbfounded. "Get out!" I snarled, and during the hour it took him to angrily pack up his things, I mostly stayed with my "good riddance" feelings.

Because our relationship thrives on a silly humor which, if heard by outsiders would brand us as geezers even older than we actually are, his phoned plea for reconciliation ended with a quip. "Match.com won't take me -- they dropped their over-the-hill category," he said wryly, underscoring our shared understanding that "get over it and get ready for your next love" sounds ridiculous at our age.

If you're in a teen-type hormonal tizzy, a measured and careful way of fighting will seem lackluster in the extreme. Those who are young -- and those who imagine they are -- are known to instigate down-and-dirty mêlées purely for the pleasure of making up with equal vigor. "Don't go to bed mad; stay up and fight," Phyllis Diller famously said, and her comment certainly implies some physical intensity -- both in the fight's duration and in its much more fun and juicier denouement. I admit that this recreational style works well for some. It's a time-honored ploy.

PASHA and I are honoring time with our own ploy -- we stay away from pushing the hot buttons. It never leaves our minds, this miracle of finding new love after suffering the deaths of our beloved life partners. Knowing that for us time is compacted, we don't want to waste a minute playing "gotcha" in a game of trivial complaints.

Sienna Jae Fein blogs at www.datingseniormen.com.

 

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A few days before my 38th birthday, my best friend and I were enjoying a gossip session on her backyard terrace. We sipped wine, nibbled on cheese and she told me about her father's latest fight with ...
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08:26 AM on 09/04/2012
As always, A-MA-ZING advice from a wise woman! Relationships are tricky - and a lot of hard work - at any age - but your advice truly resonates.
08:29 AM on 09/01/2012
Incredible advice I will hold on to for my own marriage!
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When I saw her I marveled greatly.
06:23 PM on 08/31/2012
"women are in for a scramble if they want to find a partner", which most don't.
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You're welcome
01:12 AM on 09/03/2012
It really all depends on how they're situated financially.
12:24 PM on 09/03/2012
Excellent point, OtayPanky! It's true that for those who suffer financial difficulties, fights are mostly about money, or about underlying issues associated with spending, saving, how expenses are shared -- and for post-50s, how we save for / spend on our adult kids and grandchildren. Thanks for your comment. -- Sienna
02:53 PM on 08/31/2012
My girlfriend and I had nightmare first marriages. We are so grateful and happy to have found each other that we never fight.
03:26 PM on 08/31/2012
I'm definitely with you on the gratitude, RustBeltCrooner! Divorced or widowed, it's good to be a non-combatant second time around. Thanks for letting us know there's somebody out there practicing the rules of sane relationships -- Sienna.
04:13 PM on 09/03/2012
My girlfriend and I doing the same things we each did in our marriages. Unfortunately, we were both with partners who were incapable of reciprocating love. We both spent 20 years doing the right things with the wrong partner. This is very different from the typical blog post here. The experts tell us that blame for a failed marriage is always 50-50. You must live alone and not date for at least a year to figure out your part in the breakup. Nonsense --sometimes the blame is 0-100 or close to it and you can find happiness with a new person who is sane and mentally healthy. 
01:49 PM on 08/31/2012
I've followed Sienna's blog for quite a while now, and the advice given is always right on the money. For sensible, healthy takes on what plagues seniors, dished up with humor, verve, and a wide breadth of human understanding, this is the author to watch. The view from maturity given here offers so many good teaching moments—there should be a way to let the Post30'ers in on life's secrets!
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10:48 AM on 08/31/2012
Having just had one of those "gotcha" types of arguments not more than 12 hours ago, I'm really glad to have started my day with this piece. I just wish we had followed Ms. Diller's advice to "stay up and fight."
10:44 AM on 08/31/2012
I, too, remember rolling my eyes at the antics of "old people." Now that I am one, I am ashamed of my younger self. I am so glad to read your columns and blog. You are not only a terrific writer, but you represent all of us Boomers so very well. mollyc
03:32 PM on 08/31/2012
When I was 25 I thought people old who were decades younger than I am now. My bad indeed. Thanks so much for your kind words, Molly.
06:50 AM on 08/31/2012
Sound advice! As another blogger about dating after age 50, I've noticed that much of the advice given on dating doesn't hold for more mature daters.

As you've noted, the joy of finding a new love later in life is a wonderful thing. Learning to take a deep breath before speaking, appreciating your new partner and living with the small irksome things are all vital to maintaining a strong relationship. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I look forward to more!
03:34 PM on 08/31/2012
The deep breath before speaking is really important. I'll try it - lol. Thanks for commenting on my post, Diva.
04:40 PM on 08/30/2012
We still fight, but I think as we've gotten older that we've gotten better at not pushing the hot buttons. Our fights are at least less common.
07:16 PM on 08/30/2012
Sometimes I hear people talk about "creative fighting" and I think that's what not pushing the hot buttons must mean. We can't avoid disagreements, but you seem to be saying that time teaches us how to cope with them better. Thanks for your comment, BookQueen.
04:37 PM on 08/30/2012
While "get over it and get ready for your next love" may not be easy advice for someone over 60 to follow, the alternative presented by the author appears to be "stay with someone with whom you aren't happy in order to avoid the risk of living the rest of your life by yourself."

There are studies showing that people who are in a satisfying long-term relationship tend to live longer than those who are single. However, other studies show that even single people tend to live longer than those in an unsatisfactory relationship, apparently due to the stress caused by living in such a relationship. Therefore, it one truly is unhappy in a relationship and not just momentarily angry at his/her partner, it makes more sense to end the relationship and take the risk of being single for the rest of one's life than to live unhappily ever after.
07:13 PM on 08/30/2012
I'm grateful for your comment, taikan. It redirects my thinking to those for whom fighting may be a way of life, and hurtful enough to push people to the edge. I certainly agree that one shouldn't stay in a toxic relationship merely out of fear of not finding another partner. What I do advocate is doing what is sometimes hard work in order to maintain a relationship that has a basis in mutual love and respect, even though there are disagreements and disappointments.
02:25 PM on 08/30/2012
Wonderfully insightful!! And great advice.