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Posted: December 3, 2010 09:14 AM

In Sunday's New York Times magazine, Roger Lowenstein profiles Jamie Dimon, head of JP Morgan Chase. The piece, titled "Jamie Dimon: America's Least-Hated Banker," is generally sympathetic, but in every significant detail it confirms that Mr. Dimon is now -- without question -- our most dangerous banker.

Mr. Dimon is not dangerous because he is in any narrow sense incompetent. On the contrary, Mr. Dimon is very good at getting what he wants. And now he wants to run a bigger, more interconnected, and more global bank that -- if it were to fail -- would cause great chaos around the world. Lowenstein writes: "Dimon has always been unusually blunt, and he told me that not only are big banks like JP Morgan (it has $2 trillion in assets) not too big, but that they should be allowed to grow bigger."

The problem with very big banks is not that they are "too big to fail," in the sense that it is physically impossible for them to fail. It is that they are so large and therefore so connected with each other -- and with all aspects of how the modern economy operates -- that the failure of even one such bank would cause great damage throughout the world.

Lehman Brothers had a balance sheet of around $600 billion when it failed. Its collapse helped trigger the worst financial crisis and deepest recession since the 1930s. Imagine what would happen if JP Morgan Chase -- even at today's scale -- were allowed to go bankrupt.

Dimon is brilliantly disingenuous on this key point: "No one should be too big to fail," he tells me. And J. P. Morgan? "Right," he says. "Morgan should have to file for bankruptcy."

But Dimon himself argued, in a November 2009 op-ed in the Washington Post, that regular bankruptcy is not a feasible option for megabanks. Instead he eloquently advocated the creation of a special resolution mechanism for big banks -- an update and expansion of the powers that the FDIC has long used to handle the orderly failure of small and medium-sized banks with insured retail deposits:

Creating the structures to allow for the orderly failure of a large financial institution starts with giving regulators the authority to facilitate failures when they occur. Under such a system, a failed bank's shareholders should lose their value; unsecured creditors should be at risk and, if necessary, wiped out. A regulator should be able to terminate management and boards and liquidate assets. Those who benefited from mismanaging risks or taking on inappropriate risk should feel the pain. We can learn here from how the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. closes banks. As with the FDIC process, as long as shareholders and creditors are losing their value, the industry should pay its fair share.

Unfortunately, the resolution authority that ended up being created by the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation does not cover JP Morgan Chase because Dimon's bank operates so extensively outside the US (30 percent non-US in its current business, on its way to 50 percent, according to Lowenstein). There is nothing in the current resolution mechanism or the broader powers of the Financial Stability Oversight Council that enables the relevant authorities to implement the orderly winding down of a cross-border bank, like JP Morgan is today or Lehman was in 2008.

And there is no prospect of any kind of inter-governmental agreement to put in place a process for imposing orderly and foreseeable losses on the creditors to cross-border bank. In fact, the Basel Committee of bank regulators, which has jurisdiction in this matter -- and which Dimon praises in the New York Times interview -- has definitely decided not to take up the issue.

JP Morgan Chase is already Too Big To Fail. If it were to threaten failure, the government would face a terrible choice: provide some form of unsavory bailout, i.e., fully protecting creditors; or risk the outbreak of a Second Great Depression. While the executive branch pondered these alternatives, there would be global financial panic.

But that is not the worst of our worries. Jamie Dimon is apparently dead set on ensuring JP Morgan Chase becomes even larger, in part by expanding its operations in emerging markets in India, China, and elsewhere.

As Ireland and other European countries have recently discovered to their horror, Too Big To Fail banks that want to expand globally can grow so large that they become Too Big To Save. "Too Big To Save" means that the government wants to save the bank -- e.g., by providing a blanket guarantee, as the Irish did in October 2008 -- but that creates such a large liability for the state that it pushes the entire country into insolvency.

JP Morgan Chase is well on its way to becoming Too Big To Save. Through expanding overseas, it effectively bypasses the weak controls we still have in place on bank size (no bank is supposed to have more than 10 percent of total retail deposits). Experience in Europe is that this strategy can enable individual banks to build balance sheets that are larger than the GDP of the country in which they are based -- in the UK, for example, the Royal Bank of Scotland had a balance approaching 1.5 times the size of the British economy. And then it failed.

If JP Morgan Chase were to reach the equivalent size in the US, it would be a $20 trillion bank. Perhaps that would take awhile, but JP Morgan Chase soon at $4 trillion or $8 trillion is easy to imagine.

Dimon argues that banks becoming bigger is the natural outcome of market processes. He is completely wrong -- as Thomas Hoenig, president of the Kansas City Fed explained in a New York Times op-ed this week:

These firms [big banks] reached their present size through the subsidies they received because they were too big to fail. Therefore, diminishing their size and scope, thereby reducing or removing this subsidy and the competitive advantage it provides, would restore competitive balance to our economic system.

(See also this news coverage on Hoenig's views.)

Or listen to Gene Fama -- the father of the modern "efficient markets" view of finance. He told CNBC that Too Big To Fail banks are "perverting activities and incentives", giving big financial firms, "a license to increase risk; where the taxpayers will bear the downside and firms will bear the upside."

Or read the recent letter to the Financial Times by Anat Admati and other top names in academic finance. They could be speaking directly of Dimon and his views in the New York Times piece when they say:

Many bankers oppose increased equity requirements, possibly because of a vested interest in the current systems of subsidies and compensation. But the policy goal must be a healthier banking system, rather than high returns for banks' shareholders and managers, with taxpayers picking up losses and economies suffering the fall-out.

(See also Professor Admati's follow up letter to the FT this week, further blasting the views of top bankers and their acolytes.)

Jamie Dimon's job is to make money for his shareholders and even he has struggled -- the bank's stock price is only roughly where it was when Dimon took control in 2004. He really believes that the answer to his stock price doldrums is to make JP Morgan Chase bigger and more complex. In effect, he wants to load up on risk -- hoping that this will pay off for him, his employees, and (presumably) his shareholders, and really not caring much about who bears the downside risk.

Lowenstein mentions at various points that Dimon was a protégé of Sandy Weill, but he neglects to remind us that Weill in his heyday espoused many of the same ideas that Dimon stresses in the interview. Weill believed there were great synergies between commercial and investment banking (and insurance). Weill was convinced that bigger was undoubtedly better both for shareholders and for society. He was wrong on all counts, as explained by Katrina Brooker in the New York Times earlier this year:

"The dream, the mirage has always been the global supermarket, but the reality is that it was a shopping mall," says Chris Whalen, editor of The Institutional Risk Analyst, of Citi's evolution over the last decade. "You can talk about synergies all day long. It never happened."

Sandy Weill, of course, built the modern Citigroup, which effectively collapsed -- in spectacular fashion -- in 2008-09, and which had to be rescued by the government at least twice. What was Citigroup's balance sheet at the time? It was just over $2 trillion, roughly the size of JP Morgan Chase today. And Citigroup was (and is) extremely global -- doing business in more than 100 countries.

Jamie Dimon is intent on building a bank that will surpass all the size and complexity records set by Sandy Weill's Citigroup.

Whether or not JP Morgan Chase will fail on Jamie Dimon's watch remains to be seen. He is, without doubt, a relatively careful risk manager in an industry where hubris tends to run amok.

But sooner or later Jamie Dimon will hand over the reins to someone who is decidedly less careful, someone who goes with the groupthink, and perhaps even someone like Chuck Prince, head of Citigroup, who inherited Sandy Weill's mantle and said -- in July 2007, "When the music stops, in terms of liquidity, things will be complicated. But as long as the music is playing, you've got to get up and dance. We're still dancing."

The music had already stopped when he said that.

If the Dimon's bigger, more global, and greatly interconnected JP Morgan Chase is still dancing next time the music stops, the choice will not be bailout vs. great recession. The real choice will be no choice at all: fiscal disaster through attempted bailout (Ireland), or fiscal disaster through economic collapse (Iceland).

This post originally appeared at The Baseline Scenario.

 
 
 
In Sunday's New York Times magazine, Roger Lowenstein profiles Jamie Dimon, head of JP Morgan Chase. The piece, titled "Jamie Dimon: America's Least-Hated Banker," is generally sympathetic, but in eve...
In Sunday's New York Times magazine, Roger Lowenstein profiles Jamie Dimon, head of JP Morgan Chase. The piece, titled "Jamie Dimon: America's Least-Hated Banker," is generally sympathetic, but in eve...
 
 
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07:39 PM on 12/09/2010
If we know how the Big Bankers have been defrauding people for so long now, and no one is willing to hold them accountable so far(from Washington, DC), why can't the people try to do something about it? Treat them as who they are, boycotting them(closing all accounts), etc. Ain't this a small beginning that might lead to bigger Cudgel?
02:37 PM on 12/08/2010
Remember the title of a Humphrey Bogart movie? Beat the Devil. That is the game Jamie Dimon is playing, and Simon Johnson is headlining as Creating Fiscal Disaster. That game is all pinned on certain unmoving parts assumed to stay in place: The privatize the wealth while socializing the debts game of former Treasury Secretary Paulson. The fiscal disaster is the necessary interlude between the status of the U.S. Dollar fiat currency as the world's reserve currency and its downfall. Dimon of course has a contingency for that and why he is adding to risk at the expense of the public. He simply transfers his seat to another ship already in place, and looks back and says "Too bad". Think he doesn't have a Plan B? Not for the U.S. Taxpayer or bank customers, but for the Wall Street elite who think they will pick up the pieces at rock bottom prices on the other side of the debacle. But they are the fools. The ultimate choice will be to accept a new socioeconomics where any fiat currency is blowing in the wind, even a so-called replacement like IMF Special Drawing Rights or another. The real economic transfer mechanism will be pinned to an unalterable
standard that will pin Wall Street and their alter egos ears to the mat. Banks then will have to serve their Masters, not the other way around as now. But first, the fiscal disaster impending.
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09:12 AM on 12/08/2010
Dimon has his hand out to prevent making the mistakes Weill did - but it's an economic trap that only the truly great builders can expect to carry off without a hitch. He may very well pitch Goldman Sachs into a ditch, and when that happens while he's building bigger - we'll see the American taxpayer's own hubris at wanting to bail him out. I'd be less of a risk taker and more of a conciliator. Alas, he may have to learn the lessons anew all over again. If that's the case I think it behooves us to see how GS parlays their own downfall from their own pitiable mistakes. Oh, yes - they WILL happen again if growth is too fast and inequitable.
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GerryS
I WANT to pay $1 million per year in taxes, or mor
12:47 PM on 12/06/2010
sorry jamie,

I do not want your banks hand in my pocket------------------------
10:57 AM on 12/06/2010
Housing issues in sonoma county are in a real mess.
http://www­.esonomaco­unty.com
10:56 AM on 12/06/2010
Housing issues in sonoma county are in a real mess.
http://www.esonomacounty.com
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K August
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12:55 AM on 12/06/2010
Anyone banking with Chase probably recently received the packet from Chase saying that they will be charging for previously free basic checking accounts. With the exception of 3 states those basic accounts will now be $12.00 per month along with a list of features that will now cost money. Maybe the time has come to move our money to local and more people friendly banks.

It's time to take these "too big to fail" banks down a notch. We can't afford to have them hold our world economies hostage if they screw up again and again.
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12:32 PM on 12/13/2010
I think we need to publish our new international policy: the US will not bail out this or any other institutions so "Buyer Beware". And it's not if they screw up, it's when they screw up (there's a pattern here).
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11:41 PM on 12/05/2010
I think the questions and discussions parsing the character and actions of any particular banker have been counterproductive. What does matter are the real world outcomes of their banks' institutional actions, we are free to look at those in total, and judge them as good or bad. And the big banks have been very very bad. They are social and business poison, and for this reason they must be broken down to small units that are sufficiently regulated to prevent gaining future power to blow up the world's economy again. And the power to issue the people's money and monetary policy must be taken back by the Congres;, the people guarantee them, and must have control of them. We have seen the dystopia that results from giving this to private powers. And it really is that simple. And while we do this for our domestic banks, it must be done for the international banks as well.
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rybalaw
06:25 PM on 12/05/2010
why not create a chapter 11 style proceeding for banks supervised by the Federal Bankruptcy Court Judiciary so they can operate as debtors in possession and reorganize themselves when things get tough for their business and go to the private markets for their capital just like airlines do. The role of the FDIC in this would be as a representative of the depositor interest.
02:25 PM on 12/05/2010
Where the hell was this fiscal thoughtfulness while Chase led the world in manufacturing toxic derivs to keep the commissions rolling.
02:23 PM on 12/05/2010
One thing: getting what you want does not indicate competency. In his case look to source. This dude is the problem and you're paying his bonus.
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Ken Meyering
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06:27 AM on 12/05/2010
If *every* bank around the world were to suddenly fail, at say 12 noon tomorrow, the world would not descend into chaos. The world would suddenly become very quiet and calm, and silence would hover the earth. About 15 minutes later we'd all figure out that we need to create a new global non-profit bank owned and controlled democratically by the people, and we would immediately create an entirely new monetary system out of thin air, and award everyone instantaneous allotments of play credits with which to engage in peaceful commerce.

Suddenly there would be nobody left to owe your credit card bills and home mortgages and corporate loans. It would be Jubilee, a time to start fresh with a clean slate.

We could even do away with with the need for politicians to represent us indirectly and to decide how to spend our money that they collect through coercive taxation, as we could now directly represent ourselves in a truly democratically controlled non-profit global banking system, in which each citizen has one transferable voting share. True democracy, not democracy by proxy controlled by puppet politicians who serve the corporate banking interests ahead of the interests of the citizens who put them into office.

Failure of the economy would simply be the excuse we need to create a new game in which 1% of the players don't control 95% of the wealth.

It would be a good thing. We could all get a fresh start.

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Ken Meyering
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08:13 AM on 12/05/2010
Of course, this wouldn't be a good thing if we didn't have the internet. But now that we do, there's really no need for any chain reaction of bank failures to be devastating. This citizen-owned and controlled non-profit bank could easily assume the deposits of the failed banks, and having the ability to create currency itself, would have all of the ability needed to cover the deposits.

We've got all the credit card processing infrastructure and ATM networks globally, so we could actually just continue business as usual, except without the debt. People could still work and get paid, payroll accounts would still be funded.

Since the Federal Reserve would immediately be invalidated, we might opt to go cashless.

I personally have been cashless for about 10 years and it hasn't been a problem. Gas stations take my credit cards. Grocery stores take my credit cards. Online shopping superstores all take my credit cards.

So we'd really need all the guys that work in the computer rooms of all these banks to keep their jobs. The tellers and retail operations could probably go away. Where I live the ATMs now can handle deposits of checks without evening needing envelopes.

Of course, in the Third World they still use currency, so we'd probably have to have some kind of greenbacks, at least until the cellular infrastructure was put in place to handle mobile banking.

But then we'd have all the money in the world to pay for cellular infrastructure.
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muck-raker
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02:21 PM on 12/05/2010
Ken here is more that would have to be worked out...the USA is the largest holder of GOLD, however it is all PLEDGED to the FED against our now 14.9 Trillion dollar debt...is there enough to cover that if not this may be a surprise to most... The Fed owns us, thats right, I believe it was 1913 when we were nearly bankrupt and needed money, lots of it..that is how I understand that the House of Rothschild/Bank of England came into play with them amalgamating into our Govt. and starting the IRS as a system to collect debt...We also PLEDGED all US citizens as collateral of that debt...here is the story:
http://www.viewzone.com/collateralx.html
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muck-raker
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03:01 PM on 12/06/2010
Ken as we owe 14.9 trillion to the Fed and in reading the Gold we have is only worth 100 billion so it would not be enough to cover our debt.
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Carolyn Kostopoulos
04:08 PM on 12/05/2010
i love this idea! i wish we had let them fail
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Olaste
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06:02 AM on 12/05/2010
Thank you Simon for keeping the lights on!
why are we asking Mr. Dimon? is it not very clear what Mr. Dimon is selling!
But Logic, History, Facts and Common Sense are not on his side.
We know and have so for quite a while that in finance megastructures do not provide optimal value and will always be the harbinger of great systemic risks.
As we can see, doing away with them once that has become clear is much more difficult. But, lets not exaggerate, it would not be the end of the world as they have us believe.
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flabingo
03:01 AM on 12/05/2010
Simon Johnson has only addressed a small part of the problem. The other parts is more important. Jamie Dimon exists because of the misguided policies of our government, which is bankrupt both morally and intellectually. The government includes the Supreme Court, both houses of congress and the executive branches. They have abandoned their fiduciary responsibility of their being either elected or appointed. Start with Greenspan and his devotion to the ideology of Ayn Rand and deregulation, then look at the recent Supreme court decision of Citizens United which opened the flood gates of money in politics. Then we elected a President who has not only not kept most of his important campaign promises, but picked Summers and Geithner to bail out the financial institutions at the expense of the people. The President then goes to Afghanistan last week, does not visit his partner, Karzai, says he can't land in Kabul because of weather which was not true, and disappears at a critical time in Congress for votes to help the less fortunate citizens of this country. When you read ALL THE DEVILS ARE HERE, by Joe Nocera and Betheny McClain you get a very clear picture of the world of greed, corruption, and immoral behavior that is scary. Worse than that is that there is no sign of hope for this country on the political scene. But the real blame is we the people that elected these people and tolerate their misbehavior. If you really can handle the truth see
05:48 PM on 12/04/2010
While Jamie Dimon has done an impressive job navigating the financial crisis, JP Morgan Chase could do a much better job serving their retail customers. Research from Prime Performance shows Chase consistently scoring low on a number of measures of customer satisfaction - http://insights.primeperformance.net/index.php/post/customer-experience-with-branch-and-call-center-representatives/.

Rather than focus on making the company larger, Dimon would be wise to focus on improving service levels first. Eventually more customers will realize they have a choice and will start to turn to Credit Unions and Community Banks that provide a better customer experience.
01:49 AM on 12/05/2010
Excellent point. As a one time Chase credit card customer, IMHO they are the most dishonest of the big banks. Ninety percent of the time, what they tell you on the phone turns out to be false. Or let me put it a bit more accurately: a fraudulent lie. And this has nothing to do with collections or anything of that sort, but with trying to clarify points that seem a bit vague in their promotions. The rep tells you whatever is best for you. The reality turns out to be _whatever_ is best for the bank's profits, and screw you. I would suggest a change in the law to allow customers to record all calls to businesses, especially banks.