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Fiscal Affairs: Ron Paul's Budget Proposals Are Fiscally Irresponsible

Posted: 02/29/2012 1:36 pm

Representative Ron Paul sees himself as an independent thinker -- not afraid to confront the conventional wisdom, whether in the form of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke or mainstream views within the Republican Party. As I have written elsewhere recently, we should take Mr. Paul seriously -- and not simply dismiss his proposals out of hand.

However, Mr. Paul's current proposals for the federal budget can only be described as fiscally irresponsible. This is completely at odds with his more general stated principles (including in the hearing with Mr. Bernanke this morning), including his well-articulated concern about inflation.

According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), Ron Paul's proposals would -- even under the most optimistic scenario -- leave federal debt roughly where it is now, i.e., at an elevated and dangerous level relative to the size of our economy (see pp. 19-24 of the CRFB report). More realistically, however, we should use the CRFB's high-debt scenario to evaluate all politicians -- reflecting the fact that not everything in the world economy will prove smooth sailing over the next decade.

Under this scenario, Mr. Paul's proposals would increase debt to over 90 percent of GDP -- roughly the same level currently seen in Italy and other troubled European countries.

I understand that other Republican presidential candidates are even more irresponsible than Mr. Paul (including, most spectacularly, Newt Gingrich). I will have more to say about this tomorrow.

But why does Mr. Paul -- an iconoclast of the right and a person who sees himself as a "fiscal conservative" -- feels comfortable putting forward proposals that would likely boost our national debt by so much?

Simon Johnson is the co-author of White House Burning: The Founding Fathers, Our National Debt, and Why It Matters To You, available from April 3rd. This post is cross-posted from The Baseline Scenario.

 
 
 
Representative Ron Paul sees himself as an independent thinker -- not afraid to confront the conventional wisdom, whether in the form of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke or mainstream views withi...
Representative Ron Paul sees himself as an independent thinker -- not afraid to confront the conventional wisdom, whether in the form of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke or mainstream views withi...
 
 
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03:36 AM on 03/12/2012
GDP is a made for TV number. Gross Domestic Product sounds like something is being produced but it's actually all the money spent and borrowed by not only the population but also the government. The Fed has created a debt based society that has us borrowing past the point of no return. Ron Paul knows more about economics than anyone in DC as witnessed by his predictions and results of Fed policy for the last 40 years. The reason we are in fail mode is not only the result of monetary policy but also our blind faith in a deceptive abetting media. Globalization is meant even out the world's standards of living meaning we are on our way to a big fall. We've been sold out.
11:35 PM on 03/04/2012
If I'm going to believe anyone, it's going to be Ron Paul , Peter Schiff and the likes. Not the CRFB. And the way the article is presented is as some fraud is being committed. I call Fraud on the article.
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shankapotomus
10:02 PM on 03/04/2012
Well since O's are working out so well, didn't he cut the deficit in half, LOL.
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ancientuno
09:39 PM on 03/04/2012
Our political system takes care of only the rich. The rest of us are only collateral damage.
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daveat1910
10:49 PM on 03/04/2012
you forgot those who can be maids, butlers and chauffeurs.
fanned
09:35 PM on 03/04/2012
Dr. Johnson,
Right now worrying about deficits is a distraction...Paul is a hypocrite and he should be "called out" on it but I'm with the MMT folk in saying that deficits for a sovereign country like the US right now are not the most important economic issue...
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FearlessFreep
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08:03 PM on 03/04/2012
Did I miss something? Simon Johnson tells us that Ron Paul's "fiscally irresponsible," but gives almost no specifics in support of this statement.

Assertion is not argument.
09:32 PM on 03/04/2012
Because that is what non partisan budget hawks have found....He slashes government but keeps the debt at a very high level via huge tax cuts to the rich:

http://crfb.org/sites/default/files/primary_numbers.pdf

Argument by assertion is exactly what "Austrian" economists do...are you one of them?
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daveat1910
10:50 PM on 03/04/2012
agree
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Gitta
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07:40 PM on 03/04/2012
First misfact "Our economy". That is the problem, it's no longer ours, it's theirs.
04:52 PM on 03/04/2012
I'll take every single one of your news stories with a grain of salt considering you're a liberal professor. We as citizens must demand better non biased news from these clowns. I'm not asking you to agree with Dr. Paul, but everything on this site is way left leaning and not a constructive use of my time to read.
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04:38 PM on 03/04/2012
Ha, Ha....like we've HAD fiscally responsibility!!!???????///

Really funny, except NOT!
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LibertyRoy
Listen up! I am a Libertarian, not a Republican!
03:12 PM on 03/04/2012
Well, it would be nice is you were not ONLY quoting the "high case scenario" in the document. Were you thinking everyone would just "take your word for it" and not read it?

Also, the alternative is what? Obama listening to Krugman and never trying to reduce the deficit at all?
08:37 PM on 03/04/2012
Clearly you know nothing of what Krugman actually says. The make believe Krugman that speaks inside you head doesn't count.
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kjohney
trust me... I'm liberal.
10:03 PM on 03/04/2012
I don't know many people who wouldn't agree that we need to do something about the deficit. But I'd also like the austerity measures to kick in, after unemployment gets back to an acceptable level.
Where were the Tea-Partiers when Cheney said "Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter"? He should have added "when Republicans are in charge"
Team GOP has been throwing money out of the treasury windows for decades. Squandering it in good times and bad for oil subsidies and wars and tax cuts for the wealthy, but now that a Democrat is tossing money out the window to keep the economy from flatlining, suddenly one penny more would be too much.
And Obama hasn't been listening to Krugman. Krugman has been saying all along that the stimulus has been too small by half.
conservo
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02:11 PM on 03/04/2012
Funny, the CBO has said that Ron Pauls plan is the ONLY plan (of the GOP candiates AND Obama's) that does not significantly raise our debt. Even if this CRFB say's that Pauls plan leaves the debt where it is ---does that not mean that he immedialey balances the budget. That is something none of the others can even come close to.
01:24 PM on 03/04/2012
What is fiscally irresponsible is the budget proposed a few weeks ago by President Obama. He proposes running near-trillion dollar deficits.......forever. No attempt to even acknowledge the problem. And if you look closely, he runs these deficits WHILE imposing three new taxes on the wealthy. I see why our author here chooses not to offer this comparison.
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kjohney
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10:11 PM on 03/04/2012
Hey man, the only thing keeping this country from a Greece-style economic meltdown is the stimulus spending. Remember how your team ruined the economy? Yeah, well it'll be expensive to keep the country's economy from flatlining.
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daveat1910
10:55 PM on 03/04/2012
I find that hard to believe as we are close to the max now- I have not seen an analysis the president's budget by anyone credible yet.
12:29 PM on 03/04/2012
"But why does Mr. Paul -- an iconoclast of the right and a person who sees himself as a "fiscal conservative" -- feels comfortable putting forward proposals that would likely boost our national debt by so much?" The answer is simple--- HE DOESN"T KNOW WHAT HE"S TALKING ABOUT. He's a right-wing Libartarian ideologue who's speaking through his ideological haze.
11:47 PM on 03/04/2012
Ron Paul's budget wouldn't boost our national debt. It would--so claims the article--boost our national debt relative to the GDP. Since GDP by definition includes government spending, GDP by definition would go down under a Ron Paul budget. This would, by definition, raise the debt-to-GDP ratio. It is not Ron Paul who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Nomccain
12:28 PM on 03/04/2012
All of the Republicans economic ideas are passe and no longer work for the most part. The idea of rewarding big corporations with tax breaks, although once good, no longer work because of their obsession with higher profits for their stockholders and their tendency to locate in other countries and take their jobs with them. In doing so, they weaken the American economy and steal American jobs. So their idea of "trickle down" economics results in trickle OUT of this country and trickle INTO the pockets of the corporations and their stockholders and investors. Their suggested solution to this is to reduce worker benefits in this country, destroy the unions and along with it child labor laws, reduce the minimum wage, lengthen working hours and reduce the quality of working conditions so we can compete with foriegn corporations, thus turning us into a third world country for the sake of profits. Finally, their climate change denial is based upon the reality that the major corporations would have to "clean up their acts" and in doing so their profit margins would be reduced. To Hell with the environment because it's no friend of the major corporations and millionaire friends. THis party would take us back to the dark ages in terms of womens rights, labor, environment, etc. They must not be given the chance to do that in 2012. Wake up America to what the Republicans are really all about.
01:02 PM on 03/04/2012
You seem to be suggesting that what we need to concern ourselves with is the conflict between the big corporations and the government. This is uninformed. The government serves the big corporations and always has. The very money in your pocket was created by the bankers for the bankers and put into place by government force.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/12/more-elitists-via-venn-diagrams.html

The U.S. federal government debt is now over $15 trillion dollars, or over $136,000 per taxpayer. Counting unfunded liabilities like Social Security and Medicare, it's over $117 trillion dollars, or over a million dollars per taxpayer.

http://usdebtclock.org/

On top of all that, Obama has proven to be more of a warmonger than his predecessor.

The conservative/liberal dichotomy is an illusion–a deliberate distraction. The most important political issues by far in these times are war and the economy. On one side we have the rulers, and on the other side we have the ruled.
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Giovanni Campanella
04:06 PM on 03/04/2012
That's ridiculous, taxing businesses motivates them to hire overseas. Why? To avoid high taxes. You're trying to tell us that lowering taxes makes them want to leave? Why would they leave when taxes are low?

You're mistakenly placing Paul among the other candidates - Ron Paul is not in favor of 'rewarding' anyone. People should be free to succeed or fail in the market place. Unlike Obama, Paul wasn't against the bailouts.

Every ill you spoke of, I'm all for trying to prevent and so are other libertarians. You're simply mistaking the 'R' after the name and thinking of George Bush.

Obama has more in common with the other republicans than does Paul. You're sleep walking.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
11:50 AM on 03/04/2012
"I understand that other Republican presidential candidates are even more irresponsible than Mr. Paul (including, most spectacularly, Newt Gingrich). I will have more to say about this tomorrow."

I guess tomorrow never came, since this article never showed up.
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Giovanni Campanella
04:10 PM on 03/04/2012
This is ridiculous - he doesn't even show the figures over how Ron Paul's budget would raise the debt by 90 percent of current GDP. How the hell does cutting spending and lowering taxes raise the debt? I guess we need to print another 20 trillion to 'stimulate' the economy.

You're going nowhere trying to say that Paul's economic ideas would be irresponsible - he al;ready predicted the economic collapse. His economics are untouchable.
06:41 PM on 03/04/2012
The website for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget has charts and comparisons of the budget plans of all of the candidates.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
07:36 PM on 03/04/2012
Sure, but does it have the article he promised us?