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Simon Johnson

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Posted: June 29, 2010 06:43 AM

What Is Goldman Sachs Thinking?

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The next financial boom seems likely to be centered on lending to emerging markets.  Sam Finkelstein, head of emerging markets debt at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, summed up the prevailing market view - and no doubt talked up his own positions - with a prominent quote in Monday's Financial Times (p.13, front of the Companies and Markets section):

"Debt-to-GDP ratios in the developed world are about double those in emerging markets and they're growing.  This makes emerging markets interesting because you're pick up incremental spread [higher interest rates compared with developed world rates], and in return you're actually taking less macroeconomic risk.

This is a dangerous view for three reasons.

First, against all historical evidence, it assumes that the only macroeconomic risks we should worry about - in general or for emerging markets - are related to standard measures of government fiscal policy.  "Less risk" and "more yield" was exactly what securitized subprime mortgages and their derivatives were purported to offer; this combination typically proves illusory.

Second, emerging markets got into serious trouble through private sector overborrowing both in the 1970s (Latin America, communist Poland and Romania) and in the 1990s (many parts of Asia).  In some crises, the government stepped in and ended up holding a great deal of debt - but this does not change the fact that the exuberance was all about private sector banks (in the US and Europe) lending to private sector corporations (financial and nonfinancial) in a mispricing of risk that started out at modest levels but grew over the cycle. 

Third, when your ability to borrow depends in part on the value of your collateral - see the academic work of Ben Bernanke and the experience of Japan in the late 1980s (e.g., the classic Hoshi-Kashyap volume) - then rising asset prices enable you to borrow more.  This does not necessarily have to go bad in a macroeconomic sense, but experience over the last 30 years is not encouraging.  Global moral hazard - the idea that someone will provide a bailout - does not mix well with free capital flows and this kind of financial accelerator.

Goldman Sachs knows all this, of course.  But, as they will tell you correctly, reforming incentives or even discouraging this kind of cycle is definitely not their job.  Their role is to make money, pure and pretty simple given their market share. 

It's the responsibility of government to make the world financial system less dangerous.  Judging from the G20 summit (see my comments on the communique) this weekend, we are making no progress at all in that direction.

 
 
 
The next financial boom seems likely to be centered on lending to emerging markets.  Sam Finkelstein, head of emerging markets debt at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, summed up the prevailing mar...
The next financial boom seems likely to be centered on lending to emerging markets.  Sam Finkelstein, head of emerging markets debt at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, summed up the prevailing mar...
 
 
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Lowell Thompson
Artist, writer, recovering adman
09:41 AM on 07/05/2010
"Goldman Sachs knows all this, of course. But, as they will tell you correctly, reforming incentives or even discouraging this kind of cycle is definitely not their job. Their role is to make money, pure and pretty simple given their market share.

It's the responsibility of government to make the world financial system less dangerous."

Tell it Si!

But you'd think that 234 years after the Dec. of Ind. and after over 200 years of being a so-called "democratic-republic", you wouldn't have to explain this basic fact to US...wouldn't you?

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TAMPA M
Sicilians,of Ybor City
05:09 AM on 07/05/2010
I can't wait till that day happens when the people will finally stand up to greedy corporations and criminally corrupt politicians. That is the day I am waiting for is violent conflict because apparently they have not listened to the people or learned from history. There is only one kind of capitalism and that is criminally organized capitalism by the wealthy and are politicians so they can profit for themselves. Stealing from the poor and giving to the rich, is that what they call capitalism. There must be controls in place for capitalism to work for everybody not just for the few.
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Garbaj
What is the Matrix?
02:37 PM on 07/04/2010
america is not a country that learns its lessons easily. part of that is an arrogance & hubris that presumes it alone knows how to remedy a situation. as such, it goes where others have already gone...and failed...and suffers the same fate...!
part of that is due to YOUTH: this is still a very young country. much like a petulant but precocious child, it still has much to learn; much to experience. much of that will NOT be good...simply examine the current state of affairs...!!!
america truly BELIEVES that it created CAPITALISM. it has little knowledge of the european experiments with the capitalist model...and why it no longer holds prominence across the atlantic. it disdains SOCIALISM without recognising that this is exactly what happens when capitalism FAILS...and suffer no illusions...CAPITALISM IS FAILING IN AMERICA...!!!

so, we have the concept of "too big to fail". if you ever needed a signpost...a yardstick...that the shit has hit the fan, there you go...! and while we pay mere LIP SERVICE to this idea, the corporate barbarians continue to pillage the middle class to the detriment of the country...!!!

"fundamental changes in the economic & political structure of a social system are often achieved only after traumatic & violent social conflict...!"

america is not a country that learns its lessons easily...the most painful are yet to come
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01:23 PM on 07/04/2010
I understand how the Nazi's got a whole nation to go over, after having seen these bankers screw this country. In ten years, there will be a backlash like you cannot believe in America.
10:15 AM on 07/04/2010
"goldman saks" do not think, they plot and conspire.
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ClarcKing
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09:21 AM on 07/04/2010
The whole world is in such a desperate state as a result of the plunder and ravages of the International Monetary Financier Power, the policies of Globalization. The world needs a fully functioning nation-state in the United States in order to save humanity. Goldman Sachs agents in the government are undermining the United States, its' power to remediate the collapsing operation of the markets and the economy.
The United States must have that heart to heart with the financier elite; "you can't have it your way." We tell children all the time that there are boundaries, etc. Simply state " the nation, the United States, is not yours." And then go about recovering the bailout trillions, before they ask for more. Put the Fed into bankruptcy protection, Banks that qualify will join the US National Bank under Glass-Steagall standards.
These are the minimum tasks that will stabilize the United States, the now paramount objective.

Crisis economy formation measures must be implemented now or this great nation is doomed.
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12:55 AM on 07/05/2010
Globalization is not going away and there must be international controls on the international corporations so they don't continue to wreck the earth and starve the poor. This will need to be a long term international struggle. Our government, because it has actually been taken over by the very rich by means of bribing all our elected people in Washington, is not likely to come to the aid of our newly minted paupers which our plutocracy has recently created. It is possible that were the politicians not able to be bribed, if bribery were illegal and campaigns 100% publicly financed, then we might get back our democratic republic. But for now, we live in a plutocracy controlled by the war machine, the oil interests, some insurance companies and Wall Street and they don't give a whistle about anything, as the article says, but profits. Democracy and an unregulated free market do not go together. If we lived in a democracy the government would protect the people and not the corporations.
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lambdin1
What's this?
07:16 AM on 07/01/2010
Banks think?!?
11:24 PM on 06/30/2010
Why hasn't the DOJ brought fraud charges against Blankfien and the other executives of Goldman for the frauds they have perpetrated?
12:42 PM on 06/30/2010
what happened to the vampire squid trial, anyway? did that disappear overnight, or what?
...and do these guys ( the GSovernment ) make anarchy look good, or what? Sigh...
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intotheabyss
Imperialism is a form of insanity.
09:34 PM on 07/04/2010
I heard a caller to the Thom Hartmann show last week refer to the bankers testifying before congress and the timing of the down grading of Greece's credit rating. The caller wanted confirmation from Thom that this wasn't just a coincidence. Thom agreed. The banksters were sending a message. Hold us accountable and we'll tank the whole economy. As Thom said, "They're economic terrorists." Even people in government who want to do the right thing are petrified to go after these guys. They're not afraid to wield every ounce of power they have to protect their privileged turf. They're rotten to the core.
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12:57 AM on 07/05/2010
These guys ARE the anarchists. The free market anarchists.
09:59 AM on 06/30/2010
What about the fact that Goldman IS the Government (Dem or Rep) is it that you don't understand... Follow the money trail - This article is just pure spin for the benefit of the 'Pod People' who want to further empower the Gov to save us against itself!
12:43 PM on 06/30/2010
fanned in spirit
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Chubbster
Partisanship is a mental illness
09:50 AM on 06/30/2010
No, it says in plain English that if you're Goldman or a bank there are no laws.
There are no laws about money-laundering that will be enforced.
There are no laws about bribery that will be enforced.
There are no laws about bid-rigging that will be enforced.
There are no laws about emitting fraudulent securities that will be enforced.
And there are no laws about intentionally screwing counterparties that will be enforced.
Everyone else has to follow these laws.

But if you're Goldman or a big bank, you can do all these things and more, and there is absolutely no criminal or civil enforcement available to anyone to do anything about it.

May I ask, quite politely, why the American public peacefully accepts this state of affairs?
(thanks Karl...)
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JewellB
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07:49 PM on 07/04/2010
The vast majority of Americans are moral, upright citizens, which has been the primary basis for making America a great country; they don't have the knowhow or tools to fight the financial crooks. However, I have a terrific suggestion about how to proceed. If every citizen took his/her deposits out of the top 10 or top 20 big banks and put their money into the small local and regional banks, the "too big to fail" banks would have no customers. Voila! without customers, how would they exist?
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01:14 AM on 07/05/2010
Once the local banks became successful, the bigger banks would swallow them. We need banking coops. Credit Unions I guess are the closest thing here. My daughter in Europe, banks at a COOP bank to "avoid investing in repressive regimes".
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07:57 AM on 06/30/2010
I think we need to stop letting corporations off the hook with the attitude "They are just making money, that's what they do." Oh well, We can just throw up our hands and giggle when they destroy economies and ecosystems. That's just what they do.
05:13 AM on 06/30/2010
Man, you are taking on their WHOLE GAME PLAN here.

From the Federal Reserve straight on up to the Mega Banks-corporate debtors.

THIS IS THEIR LIFEPLAN.

Why do YOU think Greenspan kept rates dangerously low 2002-2007? They were testing the no-inflation theory of outside-America development on the back of the U.S. dollar, the global reserve.

The Fed Res Act MUST be amended. The two mandates can no longer be 1) full employment and 2) inflation. They figured out a way AROUND inflation. Lending outside the United States. Multinationals, foreign labor.

They're using our greenback for this whole scheme. If a third mandate were included, a bubble preventative or supply restriction, the bubble would have been averted, because we learned, no matter if you keep inflation low, the asset bubble will COME BACK to the U.S.

It did. Now, we need to amend the Act to prevent it again.

I really hope you pick up on this idea. I think it's necessary.
08:45 AM on 06/30/2010
Saying the fed res act must be amended gets you about as far as teaching snails to dance. Only the latter would be fun and could possibly be done. The US Congress has collapsed under the weight of its own unimportance.
01:46 AM on 06/30/2010
Perhaps blowing the bubble up to ride then jumping and taking the counter bet on the way down? Isn't that GS's SOP?
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
01:36 AM on 06/30/2010
Goldman still OWES US MONEY. If they are using taxpayer funds to invest in other countries instead of lending here, they should be charged with trea-son.