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HHS Needs to Remove Itself from the Sanctuary

Posted: 08/08/11 09:04 AM ET

When it comes to church-state relations, both church and government historically have watched to keep the government out of church business. The U.S. Constitution acknowledged the significance of the role of the First Estate, when it declared that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

It is a clear message that government must not stick its proverbial camel's nose under the church tent. Now, however, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has gone beyond nuzzling its nose where it does not belong. It has plunked itself right in the middle of the sanctuary. It is trying to define what a religion does and does not do.

This misguided move comes with a proposed HHS regulation to guide implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The regulation for the new health care reform bill demands that all health plans pay for contraceptives, sterilizations and education to use both.

In a tacit acknowledgement that this violates the Constitution's cherished respect for religious liberty, HHS provides an exemption for religious employers -- but with a catch. The church agency can only claim exemption if it primarily serves people of its own faith. It also must meet other requirements, such as employing mostly people of its own faith.

This means HHS is setting itself up to determine what constitutes church ministry and who Jesus meant when he referred to serving "the least of my brethren."

Catholic hospitals, charities and educational institutions provide about $30 billion worth of service annually in this country. No one presents a baptismal certificate at the emergency room. The hungry do not recite the Creed to get groceries at the food pantry. Students can pursue learning at The Catholic University of America, Villanova or any other Catholic college without passing a catechism admissions test. The commitment to serve those in need, the sick, the hungry, the uneducated, is intrinsic to Catholicism. No federal rule (except now HHS's) says the church must limit its service to Catholics if it is to be true to its teaching. HHS doesn't get the parable of the Good Samaritan, who helped the stranger simply because he was in need.

Look at the numbers. Catholic hospitals admit about 5.6 million people annually. That's one out of every six persons seeking hospital care in the United States. Catholic Charities serves more than 9 million people annually. Catholic colleges and universities teach 850,000 students annually. Among those served are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and members of any other religious or irreligious group you can name.

For the time being HHS has given itself wiggle room, saying that the public in the next two months can suggest an "alternative" definition of a "religious employer." That's good because health care reform ought to increase access to basic care, not push religious groups to either violate their principles or abandon service to those in need whatever their religious beliefs.

Meanwhile, the sanctuary is getting crowded. It is time for HHS to remove itself.

 

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04:21 PM on 09/24/2011
I am sorry if I am confused, are you angry with the government that you have to supply these services or the churches employees that opt to use them? It is not the government job to make sure your employees don't "sin" that is their individual responsibility.
02:33 PM on 08/14/2011
I like the X-Files line : "did you think you could summon up the devil and then make him behave?"
Someone out there among Catholics voted into the office of US president a left winger.
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If the church is going to take non-believers' money then what did they expect would happen?
otoh
If the practice of medicine is an extension of the practice of faith then the state has no say at all.
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charlesrfd2003
Proud American who believes in the Bill of Rights
04:10 PM on 08/09/2011
Sorry Sister, but the ruling makes the choice of providing contraceptive care, sterilization services and education for birth control ministerial for employees of Catholic Hospitals and other Catholic sponsored schools and agencies. Before the employer had substantive power to decide. Ministerial simply means that if one shows up and meet the requirements for anyone, the person dispensing the benefit must provide it. The recipient has the substantive power to accept or to reject the benefit.

What the Sister wants as she speaks for the Catholic bishops, is for the Catholic Church to dictate to the public on the issue of birth control. Since the greater public including most Catholic women reject the teaching, the bishops should stop trying to impose the restrictions on employees which this regulation prevents. Bringing up emergency rooms and food locker clients is specious argument since this refers to patients and clients of the Catholic agencies.

As far as providing the actual benefit to patients (not employees) the church hospital is allowed to contract or refer out those who request this. Food locker employees usually are volunteers. Further, the clients of food locker are there for food not medical services. The whole argument is very specious. Father Ferguson, my Jesuit logic instructor, would have made mincemeat out of her position.

Sister, please reread the parable of the Good Samaritan and apply it.
04:27 PM on 08/09/2011
LOL,
Using a Jesuit to back up your position is like using Satan to back up Christ. Jesuits have lost the respect of faithful Catholics, sorry.

This Catholic woman wholeheartedly supports Catholic teaching, and that's because I've done the research on it as an adult. Do you REALLY want to offer oral contraceptives to the masses? According to the World Health Organization, it is carcinogenic, meaning it causes cancer.

http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/OtherCarcinogens/GeneralInformationaboutCarcinogens/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens
Scroll down to list (estrogen-progestin oral contraceptives)--includes injectables.
02:45 PM on 08/14/2011
Did your logic instructor explain that an argument is a search for the truth?
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George Genung
02:20 PM on 08/09/2011
LOL, how many catholics still believe the RCC teaching on contraceptives ? Ban everyone that is practicing birth control from the churches, ban all the employees at the Catholic hospitals that are practicing birth control. When the last person leaves, turn out the lights, because the hypocrisy is over.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
10:52 AM on 08/09/2011
Civic society is getting crowded.

It's time for Mary Walsh's organization to remove itself (or maybe pay tax).
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Baileygk
homosexual socialist, and proud of it!
07:56 PM on 08/08/2011
this is what you get for telling our parishoners who to vote for.

Stay out of our government and maybe we will do the same for you.
09:43 AM on 08/09/2011
I don't know what church you go to, maybe none, but the Catholic church does not affiliate with a political party. You should really consider how your prejudices are affecting your thinking and thus our government is taking away your rights. If you don't wake up to this, you'll find you are no longer free.

May God bless you.
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Baileygk
homosexual socialist, and proud of it!
11:58 AM on 08/09/2011
I do not go to church and it is because the church is trying to restrict the rights of me and my fellow people, not the government. I can not get married in my state anymore because Priests rallied their parishoners to exclude homosexuals from marrying.

God doesn't exist, so keep your blessings to yourself.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
03:54 PM on 08/08/2011
Catholic, and other faith-based charities and educational institutions provide enormous value in terms of service to the citizens of this country. What if the powers that be don't want it to continue? Remember the former Soviet Union? The USSR's spending on the cold war, along with it's spending in it's war with Afghanistan, (yeah the same Afghanistan we have been at war with for the past ten years) coupled with it's loss of revenue due to the drop in oil revenues (some say Regan colluded with the Saudis to accomplish this) made them insolvent. What happened then? The former USSR was cut into pieces and auctioned off to the highest bidders, or worse, simply taken by those who were willing to steal and murder to achieve their goals. It was hell for the average citizen, but the politically well-connected, the wealthy, and the violent were eventually able to prosper. The politically well-connected, the wealthy, and the violent are in control in the USA. They know that the demographic destiny of the nation is to contract, and they can't continue to obscenely profit off of a contracting economy. They have to take it down, default on their debts, divide the nation into pieces, give them to the politically faithful, sell whatever is left of value to the highest bidders, and let the gangsters fight over whatever they can't sell or give to their friends. The cherry on the sundae? The Chinese get left holding the bag.
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ProofRequired
Taking back the human race, one believer at a time
02:12 PM on 08/08/2011
This is a delightfully worded, horribly misguided attempt to stop people from getting contraception. Not one part of Obama's declaration that women will have access to contraception, in spirit or in legal terms, forces anybody to do anything when it comes to their reproductive system. This just makes access for those that want it easy and free. It forces not a single person to take a pill or insert a device against their will. If you do not believe the bible is the word of anything except semi-literate sheep farmers, should you be forced to not prevent unwanted pregnancy? Ask yourself if access means more or less freedom to an American.
11:00 AM on 08/09/2011
Wrong. It forces Christians to pay for contraceptives. More contraceptives means more unplanned pregnancies. Stop believing everything Planned Parenthood tells you. They back up all their imaginary claims by their own researchers. (Guttmacher and SEICUS)

Abortion advocates often promote contraception by claiming that as contraception use increases, the number of “unwanted” pregnancies and therefore abortions will decrease. But a new study out of Spain has found the exact opposite, suggesting that contraception actually increases abortion rates.

The authors, who published their findings in the January 2011 issue of the journal Contraception, conducted surveys of about 2,000 Spanish women aged 15 to 49 every two years from 1997 to 2007. They found that over this period the number of women using contraceptives increased from 49.1% to 79.9%.

Yet they noted that in the same time frame the country’s abortion rate more than doubled from 5.52 per 1,000 women to 11.49.
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ProofRequired
Taking back the human race, one believer at a time
12:12 PM on 08/09/2011
Interesting argument. If you used contraception, would your chance of getting pregnant go up or down? Ah, no, you are going for the age old insanity that if there is more contraception, than unmarried sex will happen so much more often. Yes yes, there are men and women standing on the sidelines, hormones raging, ready to pounce on the nearest wildly horny counterpart, but waiting for that elusive condom they just can't find anywhere, or afford.

Once again, you take the opportunity for a free people to have a choice and denounce it, only because you don't agree with one of the choices.
02:01 PM on 08/08/2011
Would I be correct in my 'thinking' if I were to say: "I think this is going to come down to a court battle at the US Supreme Court?" The State is evermore intruding on ground it does not belong. Example: ordering catholic adoption agencies to allow same-sex couples to adopt or close. Now HHS is ordering the Church's insurance programs to provide abortion and contraception, NEXT, they will tell us that we will no longer be able to administer the Precious Blood in a common cup.

I would like to know what people think. Will or SHOULD the Catholic Church take the US Government to court on this issue; and seek a ruling from the Supreme Court? Would other denominations help with the cost and process collectively as Christians? I wish something could be done. Same Sex-Marriage in the State of NY is also VERY troubling.
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charlesrfd2003
Proud American who believes in the Bill of Rights
04:16 PM on 08/09/2011
With six Catholic Supreme Court Justices they might. In the end the Church will lose if they follow this route. The public does not support this position. They can delay it but they will find things more difficult for them on many fronts. They should do more to improve marriage since then number of marriages in most parishes is way down. In one parish I was associated that had a school and five Masses each weekend, the number of marriages for the year was four!!
01:50 PM on 08/08/2011
Outstanding response Sister Mary Ann! And thank you for bringing Truth and Light to this convaluted situation. Now we ask what are the next steps? A 2 month public comment period to suggest different wording means to me that we can suggest more than rewording the definition of religious employer. Your response has already given them the answer to work with, but it is up to the rest of us to raise our voices and let HHS know we insist on change...we the people, we their employer!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:13 PM on 08/09/2011
And with walsh raising the forces of darkness, those who are not benighted and oppressed by superstitious nonsense, need to raise the lantern and reaffirm the importance of equal and fair treatment for employees.
01:42 PM on 08/08/2011
I agree with the Sister on this one. It doesn't surprise me at all, however. This current administration has gone WAY out of its way to appease pro-abortion, pro-gay supporters and curb Christian activities as much as possible (remember the cancelled Day of National Prayer... though they made room for Muslim feast days at the White House??!). Catholic institutions in particular have served the poor and disabled for centuries. It was the Catholic Church who first established welfare programs when noble kings either refused or could not provide for their own people (you can learn this fact in college courses 101).
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MagicManDoneIt
When facts are lacking. Just say...
05:06 AM on 08/09/2011
Let's get at least one thing straight, there was no cancellation of the National Day of Prayer. Oh no, Muslims in the White House! What's next, atheists in the White House (yeah, that happened)?
11:46 AM on 08/09/2011
Actually you are partly correct but also wrong. Found article on CBS that the National Day of Prayer was ruled unconstitutional by a judge in 2010 however, in 2009, "the White House did not hold a service at the White House in conjunction with the National Day of Prayer". So yeah, Obama cancelled it but held several special events for Muslims. A major problem there if someone claims to treat all equally but ditches the one Christian-based event (or that is what most people view for National Day of Prayer ... of Christian origins). Obama has gone way out of his way for the Islamic population and you can verify that on many media sites.
11:50 AM on 08/09/2011
And I'm guessing given the moral state of America (and its quite disgusting), there are a lot of atheists (at least in heart) in and around government. If you have no understanding of natural law or moral law at all, you can only follow your own idea of what is right. And that allows a lot of leeway for individual interpretation. Atheists could never make up a moral list of what is right and wrong because they would all be following their own ideas.
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charlesrfd2003
Proud American who believes in the Bill of Rights
04:23 PM on 08/09/2011
This is about contraceptives and not abortion nor gay rights. It is not about anti-Christian activities. It is about the right of an employee not to be subject to the arbitrary rules of the employer and the right of the employee to receive the same benefits as other employees in the labor market. For above writer should be aware that many religious organizations approve of birth control. The first amendment secures the right to be free from religious control. It is not for the employer to decide on this benefit but the patient and her/his doctor. Employer has ministerial responsibility and not substantive power.
12:05 PM on 08/08/2011
The Bible which is God's word tells us in Genesis to be fruitful and multiply. It doesn't tell us to murder unborn babies by abortion or use birth control pills. God's rules are for our protection so therefore we must obey God over man. Man has rejected God and the crisis in the world today shows us that because of this rejection there will be no world peace and only war.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:15 PM on 08/09/2011
Let's go with some old bronze-age screed rather than fundamental rights.

I guess we should look on the bright-side: at least you're not currently advocating the stoning of disobedient children, or the keeping of hittite slaves.
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johnnybic
Seeking to impose the gay agenda since 1971
11:39 AM on 08/08/2011
"HHS doesn't get the parable of the Good Samaritan, who helped the stranger simply because he was in need."
Sister, what if that stranger is in need of services the Roman Catholic church deems unethical? The dying person who believes artifical delivery of food and nutrition is monstrously burdensome? The pregnant woman who is told she will die if she carries her pregancy to term? There are a myriad number of other examples. If the Church accepts funding from any government entity, the funder has the right to demand how the many is spent, not the one receiving the funds.
12:17 PM on 08/08/2011
Ah ... the stench of anti-Christian bigotry
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johnnybic
Seeking to impose the gay agenda since 1971
05:25 PM on 08/08/2011
The only bigotry here is your false allegation that I am somehow "anti-Christian." That is clearly rooted in your own prejudice against those who would dare question the rationale, moral reasoning, and increasingly stentorian tone of the US Bishops, for whom Sister Mary Ann is a spokesperson. Most Christian churches embrace the use of contraceptives for family planning and many Roman Catholic ethicists are appalled at the Church's ERD (Ethical and Religious Directives) mandating the use of feeding tubes and artifical hydration for dying patients. Questioning the Bishops' heavy-handedness in dealing with these morally complex issues in no way reflects "anti-Christian" sentiments. On the contrary, it is profoundly Christian and a call that these supposed ministers of Christ take seriously their pastoral imperative.
11:28 AM on 08/09/2011
J,
No one forces a dying person to go to a Catholic hospital. In fact, if they want no intervention, why would they be in a hospital in the first place? Secondly it is not Catholic teaching to withhold treatment to a women with an eptopic pregnancy, the fallopian tube would be removed.

Using your logic, then we the taxpayers should not be funding Planned Parenthood.
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johnnybic
Seeking to impose the gay agenda since 1971
12:33 PM on 08/09/2011
You win a prize! During the Republican administrations, all family planning services receiving funding from the federal government were restricted in the use of those funds, specifically forbidding abortion services. The one giving the money has the right to determine how the money is used. Palliative care can be provided in a hospital or nursing home setting that does not involve the forced adminstration of artifical nutrition and hydration. It is the bishops who changed their minds on this (remember Karen Ann Quinlan?--her feeding tube was removed with the blessing of the local bishop). ERD# 58 is a recent addition and has alarmed even conservative Catholic ethicists. You are also correct about ectopic pregnancies. But the bishop of Phoenix, Thomas Olmsted, excommunicated a nun who approved a life-saving measure that caused the death of her fetus. Bishop Olmsted would have preferred both mother and child die.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
11:29 AM on 08/08/2011
The Roman Catholic Church does have an outreach that serves people beyond its own members. It is likely that the rules for exemption from providing contraceptives will be changed in the coming months. It is unfortunate, however, that a major religion actually holds such a position.
01:45 PM on 08/08/2011
Its not unfortunate because without the Church, so many poor and sick would NOT get the help they need. The Catholic Church itself pretty much founded welfare programs for the poor (look this up in your history books, its there!), while the nobility wouldn't lift a finger to help them (or couldn't for some strange political reason). Rather than lament that a religion actually CARES about helping other people, you should be thankful that there are people who actually follow Jesus commands in the world.
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Baileygk
homosexual socialist, and proud of it!
07:57 PM on 08/08/2011
I was at an Indian religious festival last weekend that was feeding the homeless. There were "christians" protesting the "false idolators"
01:11 PM on 08/09/2011
Phal,
Two Southeast Asian countries both discovered their first HIV cases in 1984-5, both had similar populations and both were predicted by World Health Org. to have about 70-80 THOUSAND AIDS related deaths by 1999. Catholic Philippines chose abstinence to fight the HIV epidemic, Thailand chose the UNAIDS recommended 100% condom use program.

As of 2009, UNAIDS estimates the Philippines had 318 AIDS related deaths. Thailand? Over 610,000 AIDS related deaths.

The Church is not wrong about contraceptives. Actually look into the teaching with an open mind and you will be surprised.
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charlesrfd2003
Proud American who believes in the Bill of Rights
04:25 PM on 08/09/2011
And Catholic priest have died of aids.
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
09:54 AM on 08/08/2011
Since all you've got for health care guidelines are superstitions from the Dark Ages, you really shouldn't pretend to be operating modern hospitals. Honesty, please, and less hypocrisy and for goodness sake, don't pretend the government is plunked down in the middle of your so-called "sanctuary" when all you've got is a track record of child abuse and psychological intimidation to show for your double talk and anti-human rights Vaticanism.
12:20 PM on 08/08/2011
Yep - health care for the poor and downtrodden - I'll take that "Dark Ages superstition" any day of the week!
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
12:52 PM on 08/08/2011
But, unfortunately, the reality is that the Religious RIght and Church are advocating for social conservative agendas that *cut back* on health care and food and rights for the poor and downtrodden, then take a lesser amount as like a kickback to use that circumstance to impose their dogmas on the general population: Net result: *less* for the poor, by a long shot, and on all fronts, and the Church using part of that lesser amount to advertise itself and impose its beliefs on the sick and injured.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
12:55 PM on 08/08/2011
And, mind you, I'd be all *for* faith-based groups helping out, if it was *over and above* full access and other alternatives, if it was *more* than what we had *before* 'faith-based initiatives,' not a means to impose an agenda and political leverage on *less.*