“I am the product of a mixed marriage. If anyone should want diversity to work it should be me. Nevertheless, I can not ignore the data. Diversity is highly correlated with societal dysfunction and low GDP.
“The U.S, Canada, Switzerland, Belgium, Singapore have low GDP's and are dysfunctional.
The fact that the most diverse regions in the world are in Africa demonstrates the different varieties, and arbitrariness, of it, of diversity. Westerners, within their countries, would place all Africans under the category of black, or African, rgardless of their tribe, which would actually lead to more homogeneity. The tribal structure of traditional African society still exists. If African becomes more develop this tribal diversity will be mitigated, and in time ( perhaps - and in some places) it will disappear as a new nationalism emerges.
And the apparent homogeneity of European countries, like France, is the product of the emerging ethno-nationalism that has developed over the centuries, which is predicated on very diverse base. This diverse base has contributed to make-up of France. Modern is France ( apart from recent immigration) is comprised of Gauls, Franks, Romans, Burgundians, Greeks, Celts, Normans, other Germanic people, Alsatians, Corsicans.
A country, or civilization, that lack diversity is cutting itself off from the contributions of others.”
“A lot of the refugees we take in (not invite) out of humanitarian reasons are victims of the attitudes you describe. In practice, in every day life in Europe none of the muslims stone people. You know that don't you?
And btw, I'm married to a woman. According to you the people I work with are hostile to me? They hide that pretty well. Next time I see my friend who fled from Iran because of his politial views, I will ask them when I can expect a stoning from him.
I abhor the awfull sides of the islam as much as the next person, but the way to change imo is to actually interact with them. I see glorious, ambitious Moroccan girls doing really well in our schools and workplaces, without a headscarf. That is the way to change at least here in Europe.”
“Of course not, Islam is what 6% Muslim? Once Islam becomes a majority religion the tune changes quite a bit.”
Adam L Brinklow on May 27, 2014 at 13:55:15
“80 percent of Americans are Christians, but no one is pushing for adulterers to be stoned to death, as the Bible commands. Sounds like you're worried over nothing. Or more accurately, you're looking for something to be worried about.”
“Islam is a diverse religion. However, the PEW data reveals some commonalities. The understanding that adulterers and apostates should be put to death appears to be a majority (if not a significant minority) opinion in the religion.”
Gudule Martens on May 27, 2014 at 06:37:58
“And here am I happily working with Moroccans and Turks and now I must be fearfull of being stoned?
You could quote any number of gruesome punishments from the bible as well, it doesn't mean that they have any relevance.”
Adam L Brinklow on May 27, 2014 at 04:16:52
“Does the EU suddenly have a chronic problem with people pushing the death penalty for adulterers?”
“Were Jews disproportionately represented in crime in Germany during that period? Are refugees being murdered on an industrial scale? Do they make them wear little crescent moons? I am not following, please help me.”
“Colonial history is regrettable. However, none of that can make me ignore polling data, and crime data regarding the refugee populations. Are there much bigger problems? Sure. Does the data still reveal uncomfortable. Trends in the refugee population? Yes it does.”
gussom on May 27, 2014 at 03:26:26
“Wha`t does the stats explain.Nothing but bias prejudice and discrimination.Look at USA circa 1890 and its portrayal of European immigrants especially Irish and Italian.”
“This is not accurate. The Japanese have a low opinion of foreigners. They do not let anyone in. Despite their current fertility issue they will still be a first world nation (without the assistance of immigrants) .”
Gudule Martens on May 27, 2014 at 06:56:22
Adam L Brinklow on May 27, 2014 at 02:36:57
“That's not to Japan's credit. Makes them look backwards and ignorant. That sort of nonsense is the playbook of tinpot dictatorships, not real countries.”
“Refugees to these nations are usually socially conservative. That is why it is a bit perplexing to me that my fellow liberals are so eager to recieve them. Are there bigger issues to tackle? Sure (economics). But leaving the front door open is a mistake, a mistake that could have been easily corrected by any sensible liberal. It is very depressing that it took a fringe borderline fascist group to point out an obvious truth. The front door needs to be closed.”
Gudule Martens on May 27, 2014 at 07:00:48
“Speaking for my country: the only period we actually had the front door open was when the conservatists were in power. Industry needed people to do the work. After that the front door was closed and the backdoor just a little bit open. Nobody is advocating opening them further, only to house some of the victims of wars that more often then not the USA has some hand in.”
mark rand on May 27, 2014 at 02:45:14
“it's all going to equalize in the long run anyway, get used to it”
Adam L Brinklow on May 27, 2014 at 02:01:01
“No, immigration is part of being a respectable first-world country. Only backwaters and dictatorships lock the gates and turn everyone away.”
“Ben, are you as ticked with HP as am I? I don't want to post to Facebook and I resent them putting all the posts onto it. I just reactivated my Facebook account to be able to post on HP and then they are forcing one to post on Facebook. If I wanted to post on Facebook, then I would be doing so. Does anyone have any insight into why they are doing this?”
“I agree with you about the wasteful war. I don't think that we should hunt down unauthorized aliens, I think the unscrupulous greedy White businessmen that hire them should be placed in prison.”
nh3man on May 25, 2014 at 22:19:12
“A company I once worked for hired five, but it was through a temp agency, and everyone of them had a green card issued in their name. They flew back and forth from Charlotte to Mexico City with no problem. From all outward appearances they were legal....but they weren't. The whole immigration thing isn't as cut and dried as people think. What do we do with children or adults that have lived their whole lives here and know no other life and don't even speak Spanish? What do we do with those that have served in our military?”