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Sealed With A Kiss: Dems Unite To Beat GOP Filibuster

Sealed With A Kiss: Dems Unite To Beat GOP Filibuster

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 23:40:46 in Politics

“Gov't. Option, weakened though it is, is still in the bill . . . for now. If it had been taken out, Reid probably would have gotten Olympia Snowe's vote.

Landrieu got a big project for Louisianna.”

jerry25 replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 05:50:55

“The Govt. Option wasn't yet taken out in writing.

However, it was PROMISED that it would be taken out.
Landrieu and Lincoln WON in the end. That was the only way for Reid to get the bill into the discussion phase. It would still need 60 votes to get out of discussion, although individual amendments only need 51 votes along the way.
So Landrieu gets to keep her 300 million and gets the G.O. killed at the same time!

Read the 3rd line from this Politico story:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29795.html

"The Govt. run insurance plan effectively Died in the Senate Chamber tonight"”
Sealed With A Kiss: Dems Unite To Beat GOP Filibuster

Sealed With A Kiss: Dems Unite To Beat GOP Filibuster

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 23:38:29 in Politics

“And a smaller one for women . . . unless we defeat the Stupak Amendment.”

speakingtruth2power replied on Nov 21, 2009 at 23:52:10

“Yes we can!”
Democrats Are United -- For Now

Democrats Are United -- For Now

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:24:41 in Politics

“I have usually been far from a fan but BRAVO HARRY REID!

I hope the Obama team has learned something in its quest for bipartisanship. A worthy goal but sometimes unacheivable. Let's hope they don't continue to squander precious time by chasing Olympia Snowe.”

love5pets replied on Nov 21, 2009 at 20:42:12

“Ain't that the truth, but it's the way Democrats operate.

When the GOP was in power, the message given out was:

Go perch & rotate, we outnumber you. Deal with it!”
Reid Slams Broder: A Retiree Who 'Writes A Column Once In A While'

Reid Slams Broder: A Retiree Who 'Writes A Column Once In A While'

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:19:39 in Politics

“LOL! and Broder has been out-of-sorts for years. Really cranky.”
Ashleigh Banfield Joining ABC News: TVNewser

Ashleigh Banfield Joining ABC News: TVNewser

Commented Nov 14, 2009 at 01:18:52 in Media

“I wish Banfield the best of success at ABC. Doesn't sound as if MSNBC deserves her.
But what's your beef with Contgessa Brewer, LibMass? I like her.”

LibMass replied on Nov 14, 2009 at 02:10:58

“Just my opinion, but Contessa just reads the questions and doesn't appear to digest the answers. sometimes she looks like she is in over her head....Bu­t, Hey! Not everybody likes Rocky Road Ice Cream. That's why they got different flavors. I do agree that Ashley Banfield was treated badly.”
The First Ten Lies from <em>Going Rogue</em>

The First Ten Lies from Going Rogue

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 13:20:33 in Books

“Yes, I read about Eisenstadt's hoax, and I agree that Palin has more than enough fact gaps to call her out for, so that we don't need to perpetuate myths. However this is a strange one. I distinctly remember Palin trying to defend herself against this charge during the campaign. She said, "Of course I know that Africa is a continent.­" But she never tried to deny that she had made the comment. This seemed a little strange.”
The First Ten Lies from <em>Going Rogue</em>

The First Ten Lies from Going Rogue

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 13:14:56 in Books

“England is to Great Britan what Kenya is to Africa. Well, not quite. But England is a country within Great Britian, the other countries that make up GB are Wales and Scotland.

If you talk about the United Kingdom, you also are including Northern Ireland.”
The First Ten Lies from <em>Going Rogue</em>

The First Ten Lies from Going Rogue

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 13:10:14 in Books

“When Hawaii became part of Kenya, Alaska, in solidarity, joined Kenya too. This is serious. I don't know if Palin was born in Alaska or not, but if she was, she cannot become President of the United States.”

Deborah Paley replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 15:50:29

“LOL”

lakat replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 14:09:01

“I did not know that!”

kathy001 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 13:43:35

“LOL!!! Excellent!”

greymom replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 13:25:52

“Now that makes sense.”
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Democratic Party Out of Bounds

Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 00:37:41 in Politics

“I think your response is one of the more rational ones posted. I don't see how threats of never voting the Democratic ticket again and so forth in that ilk will help.

I agree. This is not the health care reform we were excited about. I'm not sure we yet understand the full implications of the Stupak Amendment. I'm not sure what Nancy Pelosi, given her number of Blue Dog Democrats, could have done. Well, she could have refused to let the amendment come to the floor and lost the entire bill. Maybe that would have been better, but I'm not so sure. We did acheive close to universal coverage. This does nothing for me. I'm satisfied with what I have, but it does help an awful lot of families that are now denied coverage or can't afford it. That's not nothing.

I think what we have to do is fight like hell to get Progressives in the Democratic Party. Rahm Emmanuel's victor appears to be pyrric. Obama's hands-off appears to be a huge mistake. Will he change? or will he save his political capital for things like bringing the Olympics to Chicago? Well, that didn't work either, did it!”

Oldwave replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 03:03:34

“You don't see how not voting Democratic Party again will help?
How bout this...per­haps we NEED another decade or so of Republican rule (though I'm beginning to wonder if there is much to choose from between them) to really drive this country to desperate straights, desperate enough that we get the change we actually need?
This bill is a travesty, it certainly isn't "reform". A mandate to purchase health care insurance from the very companies that are the cause of the problem? Yeah, that works great.”

Qunamngdogs replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 01:59:30

“The families who couldn't afford it still can't. There is no cap on premiums- only no rejections. It is worse than nothing in that it takes more money away when they had none.
This bill has the potential to be crippling to so many.”
Compromise Reached On Health Care Bill: Anti-Abortion Amendment To Be Given Floor Vote

Compromise Reached On Health Care Bill: Anti-Abortion Amendment To Be Given Floor Vote

Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 02:26:05 in Politics

“Makes one wonder about the value of a "big tent" party when most of its principles have to be bargained away to get something that may not be worth a whole lot.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want to see a party purge in the Democratic Party such as is going on in the Republican Party.”

Palito replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 03:07:08

“that's not the problem. All governments have to form coalitions from different views and tendencies to be able to function.

The problem is that the us goverment only serves corporate interests. Behind closed doors, the reform was negotiated and watered down to be exactly the bill the corporate interests wanted.. And as distraction, we get a side circus of radical politics playing 24 hours on cable. Ignorance, racism and xenophobia are equivalent to patriotism and love for america.”
Kyl: I've Talked With Lieberman About His Filibuster Threat

Kyl: I've Talked With Lieberman About His Filibuster Threat

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 15:27:44 in Politics

“Of course the White House has not been talking with Leiberman. They're too preoccupied with Senator Snowe. And, if I had to choose which one to talk to, it would definitely be Snowe.

However if the WH had taken a more active role this summer, we might not be forced to make compromises with those who don't really support health care reform.”
AMA, AARP Support House Health Care Bill

AMA, AARP Support House Health Care Bill

Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 15:13:02 in Politics

“Good point.”
Harry Reid: Health Care Bill May Not Be Finished This Year

Harry Reid: Health Care Bill May Not Be Finished This Year

Commented Nov 03, 2009 at 23:20:04 in Politics

“I agree.

It's very unfortunate that Obama threw away the summer by sitting back, hoping something would happen. Hoping for health care reform is not audacious; it's foolish when you sit back and let your opponents take control.

Now we have health care bills that must be strengthend. Let's push for real, but doable, reform and get it done. Let's not rush through weak bills.”

backagain2 replied on Nov 03, 2009 at 23:40:37

“Maybe his golf game got better while the were troops getting all blown up.”
Base to Obama:  Come In, Please

Base to Obama: Come In, Please

Commented Nov 03, 2009 at 20:18:23 in Politics

“Your question: Does Obama really believe in fundamental change?

Well, to paraphrase Arriana slightly, his guiding principle seems to be "Change Olympia Snow can believe in."

Or, substitue some other opponent, be they Democrat, Republican, or Independent (think Lieberman), Obama seems to want change only if he can claim some kind of tenuous consensus.”
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Leadership, Obama Style

Commented Nov 03, 2009 at 13:26:25 in Politics

“Exactly! Exactly! Exactly!”
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Three Reasons You May Be Uneasy With Health Reform

Commented Oct 29, 2009 at 17:14:53 in Politics

“Thank you for your rational analysis. I am so tired of all the people who scream about everything without offering anything but their venom.”
House Health Care Bill: A Death Sentence For My Fellow Breast Cancer Survivors

House Health Care Bill: A Death Sentence For My Fellow Breast Cancer Survivors

Commented Oct 29, 2009 at 15:21:36 in Politics

“Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good. I'm for fighting for the perfect for as long and hard as we can. I'm not for ruining our chance to get something that would go a long way toward reform of our health care system. And I'm not for trashing everyone who doesn't agree with our own pt. of view. Let's get moving. We will live to fight another day for additional reforms.”

mortrefuge replied on Oct 29, 2009 at 16:20:26

“Agreed. Don't let this be the deal breaker. Besides which at the prices mentioned only the super rich or the government would be able to afford these drugs anyway.”

clevelandchick replied on Oct 29, 2009 at 15:38:44

“God how statements like yours make my blood boil.

Protecting Big Pharma profits when it bankrupts and murders thousands/hundreds of thousands of people can hardly be characterized as 'the perfect being the enemy of the good'.

And if you or someone you loved had breast cancer and could not afford a biologic to keep you alive....y­ou wouldn't be so darned flip about it either. This amendment is wrong, it is evil, it will cause Americans irrevocable harm and even death. It does not belong in a "reform" bill period.”
Levi Johnston On CBS' Early Show: I'm Going To Leak Things On Palin, That's Just How It Is (VIDEO)

Levi Johnston On CBS' Early Show: I'm Going To Leak Things On Palin, That's Just How It Is (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 18:08:21 in Politics

“Enough! Who believes either of these publicity seekers?

Although, in all honesty, I must say that Levi's publicity stunts seem more interesting than Sarah's; but only because he's more harmless and hasn't had as much exposure yet. I guess he's about to get a lot! And then we'll be as sick of him as we are of her.”
HuffPost Reporter Sam Stein: Lot Of People 'Kicking Themselves' For Being Nice To Lieberman (VIDEO)

HuffPost Reporter Sam Stein: Lot Of People 'Kicking Themselves' For Being Nice To Lieberman (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 02:19:13 in Politics

“Yes, I saw some of Chris Matthews' show. Only some. I switched channels to prevent myself from throwing something at the screen. Matthews loves to pose as a political sophisticate. Liberals and progressiveness just don't understand the realities of conservative districts in Matthews' latest pose. He had a defeated senator on his program to show that if the Democratic Party hadn't forced her to take votes against her district, she wouldn't have lost. She tried to say that sometimes it's important to take a stand for good public policy, even if it costs you votes in your own district. Matthews wouldn't let her make her point. He rudely interrupted her and answered his own questions. I can't figure out why he even has guests. He wants to do all the talking. Oh, yes, and then slobber some overblown flattery at the end. BARF.”

Malkin72 replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 08:28:03

“There is NO point in keeping those seats if they ALWAYS have to vote Republican anyway.

If they want to vote against gun control, fine.

If they want to vote against health care, it is NOT fine.

The liberals will keep their jobs, but good luck winning in a conservative district without a strong liberal base.

That is how Blue Dogs win, they have a strong liberal base and peel away some votes from the GOP....as hard as it is to win without peeling away as many of those conservative votes.....­the Blue Dogs are dead in the water without the silent liberal minorities in their districts working for them.”

temogen replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 08:13:48

“and does not give his guests time to reply but talks over them frustrating”

msgirlintn replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 03:46:56

“A.J., you just got fanned. My daughter lost her job a few months ago and she isn't into politics like her mother, but she said the same thing about Chris answering his own questions. In fact, she won't let me watch it anymore when she is in the room,

I don't know what has happened to Chris. He declaried the public option dead and I think he is trying to help kill it to make his point. I wonder if he is going to the right because Ed is so far to the left. (I can't watch him anymore.). But he is going off the reservation more every day. And I am so sick of Pat. Who cares what he thinks?”
Robust Public Option Lacks Votes To Pass The House: The Plum Line

Robust Public Option Lacks Votes To Pass The House: The Plum Line

Commented Oct 27, 2009 at 18:01:05 in Politics

“Yes, pretty much. He wasted the entire summer by sitting smugly back, allowing the Republicans to frame the debate and to spread fear and lies about health care reform. Now he refuses to get his hands dirty. When all else fails, he gives a speech. This is not enough!

I voted for him enthusiastically. I still support him, but I'm getting pretty tired of his "above the fray" style.”

H321 replied on Oct 27, 2009 at 18:39:01

“Smugly sitting back? He tried to finish it by August but it was ble dogs who have delayed it. No matter how much Obama spoke with them. We don't know what he's been doing behind the scenes but whatever it is, I am pretty sure he was not just sitting back.

Lieberman's a hack to hates Democrats ever since they dumped him and ran an awful candidate in the Connecticut primaries. Ever since he seems to be free to sh-t on everything he wants.”

Imago replied on Oct 27, 2009 at 18:08:20

“You truly, truly don't understand the process.

Please read: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/10/26/13159/249

This summer was about letting the looney tunes voices crest and ebb. Pushing back against folks like the teabaggers only gives them momentum -- if you wait them out, they eventually run out of steam.

So now, on the eve of actually getting working legislation, the public option is more popular than it's ever been.”
CNN Falls To Last Place In Primetime Demo

CNN Falls To Last Place In Primetime Demo

Commented Oct 27, 2009 at 17:42:59 in Media

“I wouldn't play the gay card too quickly on Anderson Cooper's ratings. I don't watch him because I don't think he's a good journalist. I admit that I've always held it against him the CNN replaced him for Aaron Brown, who evidently didn't have a large following. However Aaron was a serious journalist. Anderson is a show piece. And an affected one at that.


I don't understand your reasoning at all about gayness, teabagging, etc. You seem to be making illogical leaps. Nor do I think, as another blogger claims, that Anderson's mother, has used her money and influence to get him jobs. I just think CNN promoted him much too soon. That happens, without a person being straight, gay, or having a famous parent.”

Monn replied on Oct 27, 2009 at 20:17:52

“He is still being blamed entirely by the right for introducing the term tea bagging, and it is common for his sexuality to also be explicitly pointed out by the writer doing the blaming and for commenters to make a lot of comments about his sexuality and hoping his show goes off air.

It is not "playing the gay card" when the role of sexuality is blatantly obvious. The only right wing article I have seen that didn't blame him for being the source of "tea bagging" was one months ago that claimed "tea bagging" had been hatched as a gay/lesbian conspiracy between Cooper, Maddow and blogger Andrew Sullivan.

The tea bagging label, as you may have noticed is REALLY resented by the right wing and a lot of them hate him now and have been salivating over any evidence of his downfall directly because of their associating him with tea bagging thing. I have noticed a lasting ratings drop since he made the tea bagging joke and was blamed for the phenomenon because he a gay man. People like you were never watching so you are not relevant, but there were moderate republicans who were watching and stopped and have tried to get others to stop.”

Monn replied on Oct 27, 2009 at 20:16:02

“We are talking about ratings falls over recent months (i.e ratings Cooper used to have that he does not now). You have never liked his show and were not a viewer who has left in recent months. The complaints you have (promoted too much too soon, not a serious enough journalist, not Aaron Brown) are not complaints someone who was a 360 viewer would suddenly have in recent months.

I may have expressed myself too quickly and briefly, but I was describing what actually has happened to him in regard to the right wing. He made a quick, relatively subtle joke one night "it's hard to talk when you're tea bagging" in reply to Gergen saying the republicans weren't offering policy alternatives. Tea bagging jokes about protesters had been made extensively already for weeks on various websites and by multiple MSNBC TV personalities, but the right wing blogs and press have continually wrongly credited Cooper with coining the term "tea bagging" for protesters, bringing it to TV and popularizing it. He was immediately attacked when he used the term by right wing blogs saying explicitly it was a gay term he knows because he's gay, and they provided pics of him on the cover of the gay magazine the Advocate in their posts to drive things home. There were a lot of republicans at that time who not only declared they would never watch his show again, but also tried to get him fired.”
Showdown In Chicago: Sheila Bair Speaks To Protesters, Backs Consumer Protection Agency (VIDEO)

Showdown In Chicago: Sheila Bair Speaks To Protesters, Backs Consumer Protection Agency (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 26, 2009 at 17:02:04 in Business

“Shelia Bair, FDIC chief, has consistently been on the side of consumers and she admits that the FDIC (and the government in general) should have done more. Elizabeth Warren has also been consistently on the side of the consumers. DO YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE? Obama dewfinitely needs more good women financial advisors.”

Pearlswan replied on Oct 26, 2009 at 17:46:42

“Please don't leave out Brooksley Born who, as head of the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission), warned the financial holy trinity--Greenspan, Rubin, and Summers, in the 1990s that they needed to regulate the derivatives market. She's another American woman who has spoken out for the consumer and who knows her stuff.

Check out the Frontline video that outlines her efforts here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/

Y3rMawm replied on Oct 26, 2009 at 17:41:36

“Try being less divisive. We all breath, we all dream, we all bleed, we all die.

Build from the common ground. Divisiveness gives the monied interests their power. Divide and conquer

Robin Hood Sheila has been flatly complicit in her duty to shutdown insolvent institutions immediately, and at enforcing reserve requirements at them before they got to the point of insolvency. She is also lying about the solvency of her own damned organization.

FDIC will be hat-in-hand to congress shortly.”
Why is Harry Reid Covering Up a Secret Senate Filibuster?

Why is Harry Reid Covering Up a Secret Senate Filibuster?

Commented Oct 23, 2009 at 16:23:31 in Politics

“I agree. Why blame Harry Reid. He's not the villian. He's in a very tough spot. He's not Nancy Polosi, but then he's also got a different kind of makeup in the Senate.

Why not call out Obama? I am so tired of his giving a speech and then sitting on the sidelines. Afraid to get his hands dirty?

And what's the point of calling out the Senators who are refusing to cooperate with their caucus? We all know who they are. Do we think that calling our Lieberman, for example, will scare/shame him into cooperating? Please!”
Snowe Warns Reid On Public Option

Snowe Warns Reid On Public Option

Commented Oct 22, 2009 at 22:07:27 in Politics

“Why all of the invective against Snow? Yeah, I'm tired of her, too; but she is what she is - a Republican who sometimes bucks her Party in favor of more moderate stands. But, bottom-line, she's a Republican and has never pretended to be anything else.

I'm more angry at Bacus & Obama who have compromised, caved, and wasted time to very little avail. I do not understand why having ONE lukewarm Republican (uncertain) vote makes this a bipartisan bill. Why is bipartisanship a goal? It's a means to and end. And it doesn't look as if that end is going to be gained THROUGH THIS MEANS.”
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