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Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Commented Aug 20, 2013 at 11:49:51 in Technology

“They have only 3 talking points on these issues.

"If you have nothing to hide"
Attack the messenger
"What? It's always been going on, lets talk about something else"”

Hank10303 on Aug 20, 2013 at 14:10:32

“There is another reply - exactly what is so exciting about your life worth surveillance?

Joe N Powell on Aug 20, 2013 at 12:02:32

“The last one make more sense.”
Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Commented Aug 20, 2013 at 11:46:14 in Technology

“The owner of Lavabit actually had a gagging order against him. Could be the same thing.”
Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Groklaw Founder Shutters Respected Legal News Site Over Government Surveillance Concerns

Commented Aug 20, 2013 at 11:36:06 in Technology

“He doesn't claim it, he releases documents proving so. And the best the government has done is commit perjury numerous times in front of congress by their own admission.”

VoterWid on Aug 20, 2013 at 13:04:23

“And threatens more. That's akin to blackmail, extortion.”
Obama Promises, Including Whistleblower Protections, Disappear From Website

Obama Promises, Including Whistleblower Protections, Disappear From Website

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:41:34 in Politics

“No but we did we did see tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and wars like he promised. What's your point?”
Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress About NSA Surveillance Programs

Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress About NSA Surveillance Programs

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:38:35 in Media

“I don't expect anything but for those with power to protect what they have and claim more weather they require it or not. Saving face is usually more important than fessing up and fixing a mess to most governments. "Damage", "National Security" I'm numb to these terms since they tend to be thrown out there for everything these days. I think there's way more damage from things like secret courts.”

TexasMike on Jul 26, 2013 at 18:07:18

“"Numb" is entirely apt.”
Obama Promises, Including Whistleblower Protections, Disappear From Website

Obama Promises, Including Whistleblower Protections, Disappear From Website

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:28:21 in Politics

“His promises where always lies if people even bothered to look at his voting record as a senator.”

jonkanoo on Jul 26, 2013 at 17:29:06

“did we see REDUCED HEALTHCARE COST as Bush PROMISED during his campaign for president ??”
Bob Filner Won't Resign, Will Go To Rehab For 2 Weeks

Bob Filner Won't Resign, Will Go To Rehab For 2 Weeks

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:20:05 in Politics

“I swear what are politicians made of? Do you lose all shame when you get elected?”

wardropper on Jul 26, 2013 at 17:26:09

“You "sign here:"”
John Pike, Pepper-Spraying Cop, Seeks Workers Comp From UC Davis

John Pike, Pepper-Spraying Cop, Seeks Workers Comp From UC Davis

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:16:42 in College

“Take away their badge and they turn out to be babies.”
Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress About NSA Surveillance Programs

Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress About NSA Surveillance Programs

Commented Jul 26, 2013 at 17:13:28 in Media

“Aaaahhh smear the messenger, these comments are hilarious.”

TexasMike on Jul 26, 2013 at 17:21:58

“Oh yeah, that's right, he's the ultimate anti-hero for you. As long as he does as much damage as possible. Do you expect the entire US Gov't to abdicate their position and beg Glen for forgiveness?”
Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'

Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 02:31:57 in Politics

“It was once, but with the advent of these new laws and terrorist paranoia starting with the patriot act I think even companies that WANT to protect their users data wont really have a choice but hand it over.”
Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'

Obama Defends NSA Surveillance Program, Says It's 'Transparent'

Commented Jun 18, 2013 at 02:15:48 in Politics

“So you're telling me the government is going to continue to build more housing for Zeta-bytes of metadata only? Please, it's within their power to collect much more I have feeling that's just a testing ground for even larger sites later on. We also know the FISA courts hand over warrants like nothing when asked. I'm not buying any of this, and when he says "cannot" he better mean they aren't supposed to because if it's the other meaning it's just a flat out lie.

And this is one of the reasons I rarely post anymore even as a leftist, I just don't want to hear the left complain when the red team comes into power again and they have a built up system of surveillance at their disposal to abuse. And for the people who are now claiming NOTHING online should be private, then I guess just please post your financial information, heath information, browser history for everyone to see. I mean I'm sure you don't care who reads it since you're assuming it's read anyways.”

yvettesuniverse on Jun 18, 2013 at 02:23:18

“it's not that it SHOULDN'T be private. it's just don't be naive to think that it ever was or ever will be.”
NYPD Gunfire In Empire State Building Shooting Wounded All Nine Bystanders, Says Ray Kelly

NYPD Gunfire In Empire State Building Shooting Wounded All Nine Bystanders, Says Ray Kelly

Commented Aug 25, 2012 at 15:47:07 in New York

“A lot of you gun nuts aren't realizing just how crowded NYC is during rush hour (even when it's not it's pretty packed), and you want EVERYONE locked and loaded with all sorts of firearms and then trying and figure out who the shooter is with thousands of shifting people in and out pointing guns at each other.

This isn't your back woods town with a population of 400, as you can see even "trained" "professionals" couldn't fully handle the situation.”
Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 19, 2012 at 10:04:01 in Comedy

“No
your statements are nonsensical.

 

Again actual rape isn't
funny, rape jokes CAN be funny as people do laugh and go pay to hear them and
other types of dark humor.”

prodemlib on Jul 23, 2012 at 20:53:58

“you are the nonsensical one.....ask any rape victim if rape is a joke.
Until then, stay away from women until you get past puberty”
Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 13, 2012 at 18:53:49 in Comedy

“I see you are clearly stuck making personal attacks as if it somehow strengths your argument.

Anyway Tosh has made jokes like these in the past and in one of his bestselling stand-up DVDs. Hell they still air that performance from time to time. I think he's going to be fine with the national audience if the past is any indicator.

Feel free to use more ad hominem attacks with your next reply.”
Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 13, 2012 at 17:47:41 in Comedy

“She was only one who walked out as far the story says. Guess that's the whole audience.”

sadwitness on Jul 13, 2012 at 18:02:55

“I'm so sorry, let me simplify this for your little mind.  When I say audience I mean that in a national sense...the big world.  Clearly she is not the only one offended by it or we would not be reading so many comments condemning his insensitivity and lack of humor.  Did that get through or should I chew it for you a bit more?”
Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 13, 2012 at 17:34:15 in Comedy

“I think some rape jokes CAN and ARE funny, an ACTUAL RAPE? No, that's the point of a joke, it's in jest as it would be to any other subject.

Yes I'm sure all rapists got their start hearing something at a comedy club.”

prodemlib on Jul 18, 2012 at 19:04:24

“pretty silly statement from you...rape is NEVER funny...”

hewdewyou on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:41:34

“That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Jokes aren't meant to be statements of ideology, they're meant to be incongruent, that's why it's funny, because it doesn't make sense. Lots of these people need to go to the comedy class that Borat went to.”
Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Daniel Tosh Reportedly Editing Rape Jokes Out Of 'Brickleberry,' New Animated Pilot (VIDEO)

Commented Jul 13, 2012 at 17:24:40 in Comedy

“Lets ban joking about rape it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about crime it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about addiction it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about diseases it's a serious issues.
Lets ban joking about endangered species or wildlife in general it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about race it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about disabilities it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about sex it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about the environment it's a serious issue.
Lets ban joking about religion it's a serious issue............. No I'm joking, religion is fine.

Lets all go to the comedy show and watch 4th graders tell knock knock jokes as so no one gets offended......... Never mind people who have had their home invaded would feel uncomfortable.”

StopThePlanet on Jul 13, 2012 at 18:30:50

“Not many people are suggesting banning anything.  That doesn't mean this woman didn't legitimately have a concern.”

godlessliberal0 on Jul 13, 2012 at 18:00:53

“Enthusiastic F&F.”

notamused1001 on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:42:24

“I don't like knock knock jokes. We should ban them, because they often contain wordplay. "Orange you glad..." No, I'm not glad, I'm offended!”

sadwitness on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:41:45

“Joke about anything you want but if the audience finds it disgusting or just not funny you fail and lose money- why is that so hard for pea brains like you to get????”

contradiction on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:37:47

“Doorbells are offended by knock knock jokes.”

Johnangry on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:28:01

“What country are you in?”

prodemlib on Jul 13, 2012 at 17:27:51

“if YOU think rape is funny......well, heaven help you and any female around you”
Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Commented Jul 12, 2012 at 09:43:47 in Comedy

“Since I can't reply to your new comment for some strange reason I will just add to this.

Thank you for proving my point as you are now just making ad hominem attacks for me and going on with this hilarious red herring.

Anyway I highly doubt comics joking about ANY subject as even the slightest motivational effects in individuals. Do bestiality jokes lead to more bestiality? Do addiction jokes lead to more addicts? Suicide jokes lead to more suicide? Disease jokes lead to more illnesses? Sorry there is something WAY more influencing to an individual who commits rape since it's been a long way longer than stand-up comedy has but please go on believing it does.

Sorry everything you listed as not being funny has been put on many sets and have killed the audience with laughter and sold millions of DVD specials from many different comics throughout the ages. Again your offence doesn't prove anything is not funny, just offensive to you and people like you.”
Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Commented Jul 12, 2012 at 01:30:39 in Comedy

“If this was Tosh pre television show then you wouldn't have heard an apology but he pretty much has to in order keep his PR good with all his comercials/TV deals. It's sad that comics have to try and be PC now.”

JStading on Jul 12, 2012 at 01:53:00

“Yep, they're going to set him up for the Gilbert Godfrey treatment.  But then again, that case was totally different since he was joking about natural disasters, right?”
Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Commented Jul 12, 2012 at 01:26:50 in Comedy

“Comics handle hecklers in many ways, some like to make it clear that you will be on the hot-seat for interrupting a performance. The first way you stated would have likely left room for an argument during his stand-up and with his way, she got up and left so he got to go on with his performance which from the looks of it everyone else was enjoying.”

Fredday on Jul 12, 2012 at 02:02:51

“According to the owner of the club she didn't leave, and stayed for the entire set and didn't complain until after it was over.”
Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Comedians Defend Daniel Tosh Rape Joke On Twitter (NSFW)

Commented Jul 12, 2012 at 01:20:32 in Comedy

“If you find something a comic says to be offensive it's best to walk out in the first place, I mean you are free to interrupt him but he is also free to put down a heckler anyway he chooses to. Even George Carlin told rape jokes and plenty of female comedians have as well, obviously some jokes are funny to some and to others they are not. To claim they are not PERIOD because some heckler got put down doesn't prove anything since there are great comics proving otherwise.

Again sexual abuse, alcoholism, homicide, suicide, depressions, addiction, and sex have all been and will be joked about. The POINT of jokes is that they are not meant to be taken seriously but never mind that and lets make everything wrong to joke about because someone will always find something offensive. Who wants to go to the comedy show with safe knock knock jokes so no one gets offended huh?”

Scott Michael Labenski on Jul 12, 2012 at 02:43:10

“exactly! one of the best ways to deal with these terrible issues is to laugh at them. It can change the trauma associated with the event. Every terrible thing I went through growing up I made jokes about when i got older....and it lessened the trauma. I”

Daere on Jul 12, 2012 at 01:45:51

“The 'heckler' was not simply 'put down' Tosh crossed a line when he said it "would be funny if she was raped by 5 guys right now"

That is not saying "oh shut up" that is threatening and intimidation. That is not being funny, however it IS abuse disguised as an attempt at humor.”
Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Commented Jul 11, 2012 at 22:48:06 in Comedy

“Yes I'm sure it was an actual threat and not a comic trying to get rid of a heckler interrupting his performance. You seem to be missing the point of not saying anything and simply walking out. Also Josh has made rape jokes before and many anti women jokes if you ever watched any of his televised stand-up.

Some comics let hecklers go and others deal with them as not to embolden anyone in the crowd. The great George Carlin even had rape jokes, and if you interrupted his performance you would had have been dealt with in a similar harsh manner. Hell there are a few female comedians with rape jokes/domestic abuse jokes. Again if you find something offensive simply stand up and leave, if comics actually listened to everyone's complaint about what is right to joke about then eventually the only safe jokes would be knock knock jokes.

But please respond with a frantic emotional response without addressing what I outlined.”

Alloy on Jul 12, 2012 at 09:43:47

“Since I can't reply to your new comment for some strange reason I will just add to this.

Thank you for proving my point as you are now just making ad hominem attacks for me and going on with this hilarious red herring.

Anyway I highly doubt comics joking about ANY subject as even the slightest motivational effects in individuals. Do bestiality jokes lead to more bestiality? Do addiction jokes lead to more addicts? Suicide jokes lead to more suicide? Disease jokes lead to more illnesses? Sorry there is something WAY more influencing to an individual who commits rape since it's been a long way longer than stand-up comedy has but please go on believing it does.

Sorry everything you listed as not being funny has been put on many sets and have killed the audience with laughter and sold millions of DVD specials from many different comics throughout the ages. Again your offence doesn't prove anything is not funny, just offensive to you and people like you.”

allison77 on Jul 12, 2012 at 01:51:30

“Thank you so much for the mansplanation as to how I'm having a frantic emotional response because I'm just a dumb girl.

Tosh (not Josh, as far as I'm aware and I'm sure you'll be sure to correct the little woman, if I'm wrong) might not have been making an actual threat but the fact is that his words were construed as a threat. They are also supportive of rape behaviors by others. Rape is funny, amirite? Not a traumatic experience for anyone that's experienced it. I mean, that's why comics, male and female alike, make detailed jokes about raping little kids, right? Those are hilarious. I think there should be more raping infant jokes out there. Rape is hilarious and you should just walk out if you don't find them funny. You shouldn't speak up about how very not funny they are.

Though I guess my point will fly over your head or bounce off your giant "you're a hysterical woman" wall of ignorance rather than actually seeing that I did and continue to address your points.

But, please, continue to defend the idea that rape is funny and it's just a bunch of oversensitive women who don't find it funny. Also, please do continue to mansplain and ignore women when women speak up about women's issues.”
Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Commented Jul 10, 2012 at 22:31:49 in Comedy

“Did you miss the part where she interrupted him first?
I said DON'T comment, just get up and ask for your money at the front door if you even paid anything to enter. And if this was a scheduled appearance then always research the performer before going, it can save you a great deal of time if you know before hand what type of comic you are going to see.”

allison77 on Jul 11, 2012 at 00:58:54

“Yes because one should always expect to be threatened with gangrape otherwise, amirite?

Just because I go to see Tracey Morgan doesn't mean that, previous to his rants, I should expect to be faced with homophobic threats of violence. Just because Tosh can be "edgy", I shouldn't expect to be threatened with gangrape.

But lol at unfortunate "she was asking for it" implications in your comment. Maybe if she just wasn't wearing that skirt or had that drink, then she wouldn't have been asking for it, right?”
Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Daniel Tosh Apologizes For Rape Joke Aimed At Female Audience Member At Laugh Factory

Commented Jul 10, 2012 at 21:29:23 in Comedy

“This is Tosh, it's like going to Jimmy Carr and not knowing what you're going to get.

Also DON'T interrupt a performance, some don't take kindly to hecklers. If it gets offensive for you, walk out in the first place and ask for your money back.”

Tazzie on Jul 10, 2012 at 22:06:37

“I love Carr but Tosh doesn't do for me. This reminds of the heat Frankie Boyle took when he had a go at the disabled. I wondered the why the parents even went to his show and decided to heckle.”

allison77 on Jul 10, 2012 at 22:03:16

“Did you miss the part of the article where that's exactly what she did? She walked out and asked for her money back.”
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