“The reason Europeans have a more socialized economy stems from several factors: first, they are parliamentary democracies so its easier to get reform through, Second, after two world wars the peoples of Europe demanded social reforms which built a strong and stable middle class and focused their countries on peace and prosperity. Third, each country has a long history and there is a strong sense of national identity. Contrast that to the US where social programs, like welfare are attacked by creating racial myths about minorities stealing from poor whites, even though whites are the main recipients of welfare. Take one step back and realize that in America instead of talking about Americans we talk about "whites" and "blacks". "Socialism" in a capitalist context is largely redistributing wealth and checking the political power of the super rich, so we don't descend into the 19th century again. Unfortunately, the "Octopus" is re-emerging and we will have to grab its legs and pull it apart again. If Chinese people do achieve social democracy, it will look a lot more like India, than the "tight control" limited democracy you imagine. BTW, don't knock "heavy taxation" it pays for schools, roads and healthcare. Money is fungible. Racking up a lifetime of student loan debt is worse than paying higher marginal taxes - as numerous standard of living studies show. We get little for our tax $. The money goes into corp. pork.”
“China's elite has had decades to implement political and economic reforms. They could have created a much more open society but they have chosen to maintain a closed and repressive society. The Chinese people may rise up - in fact, they already do. China has dozens of protests everyday over issues like corruption, pollution and poverty. But the fact is, economic wealth has not led to democracy and the elite has enriched themselves at the expense of the Chinese environment and the people.
You analysis of the West is laughably absent of facts. Europe uses domestic policies including tariffs to maintain their standard of living. Europe is not struggling from socialism, they are struggling from the collapse of their banks, due to Wall Street's credit bubble and burst - the austerity plans (which backfired) were designed by bankers (IMF) to ensure their was enough cashflow to pay them back. In other words, Europeans had to bail out their banks by borrowing from other bankers and then pay back the loans.
The US is not a socialist country. We consistently use capitalism to implement domestic policy. It's true we have a record number of people relying on government assistance, but a lot of that is because corporations pay less than living wages and it's in their interests to have taxpayers pick up the difference.”
“"Abusers are sociopaths." Neil Jacobson and John Gottman found most male abusers are emotionally insecure and dependent on their partners only a 20% are "sociopaths -that is they have a violent criminal history other than the domestic abuse.
Although, this study focused on men. There are women who fall into these categories, too. http://faculty.plts.edu/gpence/pdf/Gottman%20Jacobson%20on%20cobras%20etc.pdf”
“You sound like a Chinese propagandist. Tiananmen Square was in 1989. Since then the Chinese economy has grown exponentially, creating billionaires but the common people live in extreme poverty, in work conditions so bad that Foxconn had suicide protests a couple of years ago and the NY Times reported on people finding in notes in Chinese products saying, "help me I am a slave." That is the legacy of 20 years of growth since the Tiananmen protests. China's pollution has destroyed much of their environment: they are planning on building domes so rich kids can play in clean air. The article isn't about Chinese people "becoming curious", it's about how much tighter the control has become and how activists lives have been ruined.
Sure China suffered at the hands of the British Empire before the Great War but that doesn't excuse the repression which is going on.
As for the level of free expression allowed in the US, it's ridiculous to compare Tiananmen Square to Snowden or Manning, it's not as if Chinese activists dumped thousands of pages of secret documents to wikileaks. You're right that the Occupy Movement was suppressed and they are closer to the Chinese activists but the level of suppression is orders of magnitude different.”
Chinacentury on Jun 1, 2014 at 19:23:42
“Bart, Philip is right, we have to give them time. Western democracy is a luxury which has proven to lead to Socialism ( India has been), EU is struggling with it and America is becoming the largest Socialism in history. what does it mean? it means this luxury of western democracy can only survive in certain economic environments.
What China has accomplished last 30 years from an impoverished, sometime starving 1.3 billion people nation to a world leading industrialized economic might that rivals USA today. You are wrong about extreme poverty in China which is very rare considering the size of the land and population. In my opinion, they are doing better job than us in America! As for a few activists treatment by the government, of course no one supports that, however, if you would walk into any public high school in American and mention support to Bush and Republican party, you would be laughed at if not beaten up by students! believe me I tries with sons.....!”
“Nixon was wrong bringing wealth to China didn't create democracy, just powerful slave republic with a lot of unhappy slaves.”
Chinacentury on Jun 1, 2014 at 18:29:59
“China did not and will not adopt western democracy which in theory as well in reality leads to Socialism, all EU nations proved it and USA is currently becoming the largest Socialist nation in history. China will eventually end up like EU countries with market economic freedom but heavy taxation and Limited political democracy which can ensure central government's tight control over 1.5 billion people whose minds and schools of thought are ticking time bombs.”
joestecher on May 31, 2014 at 21:32:20
“Sorry, Bart, but I disagree. China has opened up. As the article suggests, the economy is improving and the Chinese folks are beginning to get curious about what is beyond. Give it time. In addition, educate yourself about the West did to China prior to the Great War. It wasn't pretty. They are right to be wary. Besides, how is dissent treated in this supposedly "open" democracy: Mr. Snowden, Ms. Manning, the Occupy Movement. Dissent is contained here as well.”
“racist, sexist, and now ageist, he truly is the poster boy for the GOP. The fact that he wants the GOP to run on damaging the US's credit while accomplishing nothing is typical of the insanity the GOP calls "leadership".”
corn1971 on Jun 1, 2014 at 19:10:41
“The Cruz's view is sometimes you need to bend the country over to show it how much you really love it. Doing it with a bible close to the heart sanctifies it.”
rainbow69 on Jun 1, 2014 at 17:38:06
“Bart, I'm proud to fan and fave you. Keep up the good work.”
“Putin has backed off on Ukraine. Also, it was Congress who refused to enforce the "red line". Congress said Syria was beyond the original AUMF scope and didn't have the votes to authorized an attack on the weapons facilities.”
“The point is there is a Supreme Court ruling which applies to the powers of Congressmen.
Also, coincidentally, I heard an expert on national security law (an attorney) speak on this recently and he pointed out, "The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security," -this is important because the if there is no national security value then it isn't a crime. The courts of course reserve the right to ajudicate whether there is a legitimate national security interest, as opposed to simply hiding history/policy/the truth from the public.”
“I can't cite the case off the top of my head but it's there. I read about it a few months ago. All I am saying is there a legal precedent which protects Congress. I am no fan of Issa's reckless behavior.”
Michelle Bein on May 23, 2014 at 15:32:45
“Actually, no. All classified information has a 'declass' date that is usually 25 years hence. Any FOIA request is reviewed by several layers of intelligence agencies and the final approval/denial comes through the National Archives and Records Administration. Without the permission of the final authority, making classified documents public is a violation of 18 US Code Section 798 and is punishable by fine or imprisonment.”
“Actually, there was a court which determined that A Congressman can declassify secrets. Issa has clearly been reckless in his public disclosure of classified information (like details of the secret CIA annex). It is, however, legal”
“This is so typical of Issa, he will declassify anything for political gain. He blew ongoing investigations during fast and furious. He blew details about the TMF and secret CIA annex on live TV during his Benghazi hearings. He is a loose cannon who has no sense of prudence.”