“The reason they continue to spend, is because there is a lot more money being made in keeping it illegal. From the windfall of forfeiture laws, to the money made by private prisons, and the corner on the therapeutic market by big pharmacy, there is a lot of money being made by people. Making it legal, will increase tax revenues, but that is government money, not private money.”
Daniel Stuart Hoffman on Jan 13, 2014 at 22:38:12
“Now this is the conversation right here.
I have always wanted, and wondered why it hasn't been done, a comprehensive study on the economics of legal vs not. I suppose it hasn't been done because the legal aspect would be mostly theoretical.
I should say, I am in favor of full legalization and regulation, not just of marijuana, but of all narcotics on moral and philosophical grounds; the consequences of prohibition outweigh the consequences of the activity itself, and the activity has no inherent victim, so is not a legitimate target for illegalization in the first place.
When I argue against prohibition though, I never go to the well of economics because the economies affected by prohibition or its removal are far greater than the singular economy of the particular thing itself. For example, legal marijuana may very well eat into the pharmaceutical and alcohol market, so one would have to look at the revenue gained from marijuana against the revenue lost from those others. Perhaps in the long term it leads to a reduced need for police, border patrol, federal enforcers, and that in turn changes income tax revenues and budgetary expenditures. Keynesians would be wary of such a large loss of economic activity like that if it were not made up elsewhere. Going further down that road, it could be argued that the individuals no longer being employed in that endeavor would not be spending into the economy until they found other work. See, it just keeps going.”
Paul Paul on Jan 13, 2014 at 22:01:24
“In other words the most aggressive departments in the government have staged a coup and taken over the government and are diverting public funds towards their own departments.”
“Gateway drug? You can get statistics to say anything. Perhaps 75% of harddrug users start with Pot, but I can guarantee you that if you look at it the other way, it's statisically irrelevant. How many Pot smokers go on to harder drugs?
It's equivilent to saying that Milk is a gateway drug to whiskey, because 90% of whiskey drinkers started with Milk.”
“My case for my sister has been pending since June. She is dragging her feet at every turn. Finally got the evaluation from the dr. Dr says she's borderline, paranoid and bipolar with explosive temper. She assaulted me several years ago. Charges dropped. She assaulted the chief of the volunteer fire department that she worked at. He got a restraining order. She had a breakdown over memorial day (caught her husband having "adult chats" online), pulled a gun on him, and their neighbor. Threatened husband and his 6 year old nephew, drove car thru house (already condemnable, hoarding at it's worst) and into other car and into tree. Cops found her hiding in closet talking about FBI satellites watching her. Arrested into jail, bonded out, husband had her committed, state held her 3 days, released her, then her lawyer had her recommitted within 24 hours. Now state has dropped gun charges so she's free to run around again.”
stsimonskp on Dec 20, 2012 at 13:29:02
“Good luck to you and your family. Maybe you should offer testimony to Biden's group? Your situation is both tragic and common.”
“An involuntary psych hold only last for 72 hours. And if the hospital deems them stablized they can release early. Trust me, my sister was committed twice in a week. Released because she was stable, then recommitted less then 24 hours later, because maybe she wasn't really quite that stable. She had a gun charge, state dismissed it. The chief of the volunteer fire department, that she used to be involved with has a restraining order against her for assault. An ever increasing pattern of violence. I've applied for conservatorship (for her finances) and guardianship. The guardianship would allow her to be placed in hospital if it can be shown that she is not receiving treatment. However, even then they'll release her. Case has been pending since June. This is the mental health crisis everyone is talking about.”
katie2673 on Dec 20, 2012 at 09:01:25
“Thanks for sharing. We went thru this process with my father in law before he died. I remember our lawyer saying that if he could act "sane" long enough before the judge we would lose our petition. In the end we got him to agree to commitment in a gero-psych unit. He too was playing with guns.”
“it's not a matter of having their cake and eating it too.. Every mentally ill person has differing needs. Some are perfectly capable of being mainstreamed, some need more intensive therapy and some, just may be in need of long term hospitalization.”
“I actually just completed the Family to Family class as well. It was very helpful. A little depressing actually..but it opened my eyes to more realistic expectations for her future. With a dual diagnosis of BiPolar and Cluster B (antisocial and borderline), the outlook isn't good. At this point we are estranged, she is extremely paranoid and has a victim mentality, but I am always waiting for that next phone call for the next outburst.”
“I just completed NAMI's 12 week family to family class... For the families of those with mental illness.. children, parents, spouses, siblings. It was so helpful. Didn't give me "all the answers", but taught me that often there aren't answers. We all just do our best to get thru every day.”
Stephanie Henley-Wash on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:27:58
“I too participated in a training it did help me to better understand. I can't get mad at my daughterI just have to keep loving her. I pray that others will get a better understanding . I have to live with the damage it has cause in my life but I shared with DFS this is still my child.”
“Going thru this right now with an adult sister. She was just able to get her latest violent charge, involving a GUN dropped to misdemeanor. Our family has seen a constantly escalating pattern of violent behavior.. but can't get anyone to listen.”
kburd8 on Dec 17, 2012 at 13:20:54
“Yep. We just finished a NAMI program called FAMILY TO FAMILY..it was very helpful. There were quite a few adult siblings in our class that talked about similar situations to yours. Thanks for your comment! There are so many families out there that are struggling with such limited options. And to those who say they don't want to pay for facilities with more tax dollars? You'll be singing a different tune if it happens to someone in YOUR family. There is not way we can afford to pay for the nice residential treatment programs out there...no way.”
“My sister is a hoarder. It's not just that she's not logical, she doesn't think it's abnormal. Sure, she's a bit of a pack rat, but if she could just get time to organize it, everything would be fine. Meanwhile, her home is uninhabitable and about to be condemned.”
“that has been my exact soapbox for years. I used to work in the office at a company that paid barely above minimum wage. We had many who quit to stay home on welfare, food stamps and medicaid because at minimum wage, they made too much to qualify, but not enough to live on. I'm all for raising the income level to be eligible for benefits, as well as stepping them down, rather then cutting off as income rises. Say that after a certain level, for every dollar you earn, you lose 50 cents, or even 25 cents. The incentive is there to improve your employment, yet you're not punished for doing so. Any human being would be proud to be independent rather then on the government dole. Well, most anyway, because you are right, there will always be that small amount playing the game.”
“It's all part of pitting us against them..or them against them... we have become the most divisive country. Class warfare, race warfare, I have:you want, you have:I want....
When are people going to learn that the only way to make this country truly great again is to work together.”
“I would be upset, not as much because they are gay, but because I've seen 1st hand the struggle that GLBT individuals go thru; the bigotry, discrimination, misunderstanding.
It's not an easy road, and I honestly believe that no one makes that choice. It would be so much easier to be "normal".
I will love my children no matter if their choices are not the ones I would make, or the choices that I wish they would make.”
“There are so many unwanted children out there, that despite the fact that there can be some negatives, so many children would be better off in a loving home with 2 loving dads, or moms. Or even 1 loving parent. I know first hand several adults that are graduates of the foster care system. Let me tell you that is no picnic.
I'm getting kinda tired of these interviews where they ask a person about his views then get all in an uproar when they are honest. We don't have to all agree. It's his opinion and he's entitled to it.”