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Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 15:53:30 in New York

“LOL!! Yes, he is indeed a *Dinocrat,* no different from the "Repedophiles" who sold their souls to the corporate aristocracy.

I would remind you that I am a lifelong *independent,* and have no trouble acknowledging the criminality on both sides of the aisle.

MonserRATe is no different that the sum total of the GOP in Congress; authoritarian, corporatist, a willing lapdog of bigotry and ignorance.

Now hand over those WMDs.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 15:48:56 in New York

“ProudNeoCon replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 04:44:13

“Why are you making assumption that there is only relegios basis against same-sex marriage. have you ever thought that a basic desire of having one's blood line go on is the much more powerfull force. That is why many people have no problem with homosexual acts, but have problem with same-sex marriage.

Before you start assuming - that is not my reason.. However, that primal force of procreation is going back much longer than any relegion.”

_______________________________________________________________________________

I assume nothing when the facts are obvious to the likes of Ray Charles (ie. a dead blind man). You are as willfully ignorant of the sciences concerning human sexual orientation as your fellow authoritarian traveler "Pie7" is about the Scriptures she claims to uphold.

Your argument regarding procreation is the basest nonsense rendered so by the growing body of empirical evidence concerning human sexual orientation. It is also rendered so by the simple fact that straight couples marry who are unable or unwilling to have children of their own, yet no law and no person denies them that right.

END PART I”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 15:37:36 in New York

“Such love to ignore the following admonition attributed to christ Himself:

"Be thou not as the hypocrites, who love to pray on the street corners and in the synagogues, that they may be seen by men, for I say unto you, they have their reward!"

Such as "Pie7" and "ProudNeoCon" are the modern day equivalent of the pharisees, who cannot wait to cast the first stone.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 15:32:21 in New York

“Trust an authoritarian to demand that the empirical be proven all over again.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 15:30:06 in New York

“ProudNeoCon replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 04:44:13

“Why are you making assumption that there is only relegios basis against same-sex marriage. have you ever thought that a basic desire of having one's blood line go on is the much more powerfull force. That is why many people have no problem with homosexual acts, but have problem with same-sex marriage.

Before you start assuming - that is not my reason.. However, that primal force of procreation is going back much longer than any relegion.”

_______________________________________________________________________________

I assume nothing when the facts are obvious to the likes of Ray Charles (ie. a dead blind man). You are as willfully ignorant of the sciences concerning human sexual orientation as your fellow authoritarian traveler "Pie7" is about the Scriptures she claims to uphold.

Your argument regarding procreation is the basest nonsense rendered so by the growing body of empirical evidence concerning human sexual orientation. It is also rendered so by the simple fact that straight couples marry who are unable or unwilling to have children of their own, yet no law and no person denies them that right.

END PART I”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 00:56:27 in New York

“Seconded! And there are much larger, more serious issues that IMHO as a practicing Christian those who would claim to try and follow the path set for us by Christ should pour our energies into, as explained with such clarity by one more eloquent than I:

"A religion true to its nature must also be concerned about man's social conditions. Religion deals with both earth and heaven, both time and eternity. Religion operates not only on the vertical plane but also on the horizontal.

It seeks not only to integrate men with God but to integrate men with men and each man with himself. This means, at bottom, that the Christian gospel is a two-way road. On the one hand, it seeks to change souls of men and thereby unite them with God; on the other hand, it seeks to change the environmental conditions of men so that the soul will have a chance after it is changed.

Any religion that professes to be concerned with the souls of men and is not concerned with the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them, and the social conditions that cripple them is a dry-as-dust religion. Such a religion is the kind the Marxists like to see - an opiate of the people."

- Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Christian is IMHO as Christian does. Bigotry, hate, willful ignorance, and hypocrisy are never Christian virtues.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 00:15:01 in New York

“OK, let's follow your reasoning to its logical conclusion; is Sickle Cell Anemia a disease of those who are of African descent?

Is Sickle Cell Anemia God's punishment for those of African descent for their sins?

HIV/AIDS is widespread throughout Africa as of this writing. Care to state your understanding of *why* this is so, why HIV/AIDS is so widespread in Africa through *heterosexual transmission?*

Do tell.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 27, 2009 at 00:07:46 in New York

“Since when is honest Biblical scholarship a matter of political belief or affiliation?

How do you know for a fact that the author is a "liberal?"

Are you so uncertain in your own beliefs that you cannot take the chance that you'll read something that may prove them false?

Yes, you are a coward, an intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt coward.

God pity you.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:49:09 in New York

“Seconded! And there are much larger, more serious issues that IMHO as a practicing Christian those who would claim to try and follow the path set for us by Christ should pour our energies into, as explained with such clarity by one more eloquent than I:

"A religion true to its nature must also be concerned about man's social conditions. Religion deals with both earth and heaven, both time and eternity. Religion operates not only on the vertical plane but also on the horizontal.

It seeks not only to integrate men with God but to integrate men with men and each man with himself. This means, at bottom, that the Christian gospel is a two-way road. On the one hand, it seeks to change souls of men and thereby unite them with God; on the other hand, it seeks to change the environmental conditions of men so that the soul will have a chance after it is changed.

Any religion that professes to be concerned with the souls of men and is not concerned with the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them, and the social conditions that cripple them is a dry-as-dust religion. Such a religion is the kind the Marxists like to see - an opiate of the people."

- Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Christian is IMHO as Christian does. Bigotry, hate, willful ignorance, and hypocrisy are never Christian virtues.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

GayMark replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 02:52:25

“There's nothing more important to some Christians (the fake ones, like Pie) than hate and ignorance.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:41:57 in New York

“Aw... come on now...

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:41:26 in New York

“Mark,

I know *precisely* what I am doing, as IMHO God did not give us all the gift of *reason* for it to merely lay in our skulls gathering dust...

As my Grandma Nellie might have quipped, "Use the brains that the Good Lord gave you!"

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:36:51 in New York

“Since when is honest Biblical scholarship a matter of political agenda or political beliefs?

How do you know for a fact that the author is a "liberal?"

You're making a huge assumption to put it mildly, as an excuse to avoid actually reading anything factual that ay contradict your cherished beliefs that bigotry, dishonesty, and *hypocrisy* are Christian virtues.

You've now merely admitted that you are not only intellectually dishonest, but morally bankrupt.

God Pity you indeed.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

GayMark replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:42:22

“I concede, with respect, humility and awe.”

BlackWidowPilot replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:41:26

“Mark,

I know *precisely* what I am doing, as IMHO God did not give us all the gift of *reason* for it to merely lay in our skulls gathering dust...

As my Grandma Nellie might have quipped, "Use the brains that the Good Lord gave you!"

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

GayMark replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:38:28

“BWR, you're asking for logic from Pie7. Think about that.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:35:56 in New York

“Mark.... why did you have to go and break my ACME Arrgh-O-Meter?

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

Protestant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:32:18 in New York

“Since when is honest Biblical scholarship a matter of political agenda or political beliefs?

How do you know for a fact that the author is a "liberal?"

You're making a huge assumption to put it mildly, as an excuse to avoid actually reading anything factual that ay contradict your cherished beliefs that bigotry, dishonesty, and *hypocrisy* are Christian virtues.

You've now merely admitted that you are not only intellectually dishonest, but morally bankrupt.

God Pity you indeed.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:19:30 in New York

“It is such as "Pie7" that keep the likes of Jimmy Swaggart and the late, unlamented Oral Roberts in Cadillacs and $5,000 tailored suits.

God pity them all, willing sheep lining up to be fleeced by the first "preacher" who tells them what they think they want to hear about how one walks in the footsteps of Christ...

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

BlackWidowPilot replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:35:56

“Mark.... why did you have to go and break my ACME Arrgh-O-Meter?

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

Protestant”

Liberal Angel replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:31:19

“LOL...”

Liberal Angel replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:24:40

“So unfortunately true. Mindless drones to line the pockets of people who claim to follow a peasant who was murdered for having a mind of his own, and doing the things that actually please God.”

GayMark replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:23:54

“Looks like you two just made minced meat of Pie7.


Thank you! I'm here all week!”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:16:56 in New York

“Cowardice like bearing false witness is no Christian virtue.

You are a pitiful being indeed.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

Pie7 replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:20:23

“Coward, no, but I don't read anything written by liberal when it comes to the bible.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:12:42 in New York

“Willful ignorance is neither a "family value" nor a Christian virtue.

God pity you indeed.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

Pie7 replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:21:49

“I don't read anything written by liberal when it comes to the bible.”

Pie7 replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:20:52

“Coward, no, but I don't read anything written by liberal when it comes to the bible.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:10:32 in New York

“Read the article if you have not already; "Pie7" has no clue about the actual content and *context* of Leviticus (or, one could argue, with the Scriptures as a whole).

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

Liberal Angel replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:14:46

“That is abundantly clear. She has NO desire to understand the faith. People like this are content with having someone else who doesn't know what they're talking about preach to them about the misinformation they got from somewhere else.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:08:56 in New York

“As a Christian, I second "Liberal Angel's" comment here; God is not a hateful being.

"Pie7," you clearly neither know the meaning of what it takes to follow the path set for us by Christ, nor care to.

Christ never once preached willful ignorance nor pathological mendacity as being what makes one righteous in the eyes of God. Christ preach most passionately *against* the very sort of *hypocrisy* you've been practicing on this forum.

God pity you, as you willfully bear false witness yet insisting you are following the teachings of His Only Begotten Son.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 23:02:23 in New York

“I ask you again "Pie7," where did you receive your training in Religious Studies at a university level? Where did you receive your ordination?

I'm still waiting for you to answer.

BTW, I know at what accredited university I received my training in Religious Studies, the minor to my Psychology degree as preparation for entering *seminary.*

Since you continue to willfully *bear *false *witness and clearly have little or no working knowledge of the very Scriptures you claim to uphold, here's a little homework assignment for you:

http://www.guerrillascholar.com/cogito/?p=78

The author is a PhD who (among other things) can translate seventeen languages and has studied the Bible in more than one language including ancient Hebrew.

I look forward to you attempting to refute the author's arguments with something other than *bearing *false *witness.

God pity you.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

ProudNeoCon replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 04:44:13

“Why are you making assumption that there is only relegios basis against same-sex marriage. have you ever thought that a basic desire of having one's blood line go on is the much more powerfull force. That is why many people have no problem with homosexual acts, but have problem with same-sex marriage.

Before you start assuming - that is not my reason.. However, that primal force of procreation is going back much longer than any relegion.”

GayMark replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:41:20

“Fox News.”

Pie7 replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:09:44

“Sorry, but I'm going to pass on that reading, but I sure someone else (maybe LiberalAngel or GayMark) would read it for me.”

Liberal Angel replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:06:25

“The sound of crickets is deafening...”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 22:58:51 in New York

“I ask you again "Pie7," where did you receive your training in Religious Studies at a university level? Where did you receive your ordination?

I'm still waiting for you to answer.

BTW, I know at what accredited university I received my training in Religious Studies, the minor to my Psychology degree as preparation for entering *seminary.*

Since you continue to willfully *bear *false *witness and clearly have little or no working knowledge of the very Scriptures you claim to uphold, here's a little homework assignment for you:

http://www.guerrillascholar.com/cogito/?p=78

The author is a PhD who (among other things) can translate seventeen languages and has studied the Bible in more than one language including ancient Hebrew.

I look forward to you attempting to refute the author's arguments with something other than *bearing *false *witness.

God pity you.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”

Pie7 replied on Dec 26, 2009 at 23:04:57

“I will pass, but I bet someone else will read it.”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 14:50:00 in New York

“Hence why at the end of the day, I pray to God to have pity on such as they, for theirs are *willfully* lost souls.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 13:25:44 in New York

“Trust the authoritarian to demand that the empirical be proven all over again.

The lists I provided are of convicted felons within the ranks of the GOP part *elite.*

Your attempt to smear entire segments of a larger population by twisting crime stats and ignoring the variables of those stats including the entire nest of vipers that is the GOP's vaunted "War on Drugs" is as predictable as your demands for proof of the already proven.

Now cut the crap and hand over those WMDs.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 13:16:01 in New York

“ProudNeoCon I'm a Fan of ProudNeoCon 37 fans permalink
Prove it.

Given that there are more Democrats than Republicans in this country it will be very hard.

Consider additional facts:

More black and Hispanic males are democrats than republicans. Blacks and Hispanics are several times more likely to me in prison than white males (not racial comments, just the fact from Dept. of Justice)

So explain to me how there are more republican criminals?
_______________________________________________________________________________

Once again with the non sequiturs. I was talking to you about party 8elites,* as in people of significance and authority within the party apparatus; between the two, the Dinocrats may be the larger party, but the actual number of criminal convictions for *felonies* amongst the ranks of the Dinocratic party elite has paled in comparison to what the public record of felony conviction involving GOP elite proves that the GOp is not "the party of conservative Christian family values" by any stretch of the imagination, citizen, and you damn well know it.

BTW, I'm still waiting for all those WMDs your fellow Bushevik neo-cons promised us.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant

The Content of this Post Does Not IMHO Violate HP Fair Use.”

ProudNeoCon replied on Dec 27, 2009 at 04:26:20

“but the actual number of criminal convictions for *felonies* amongst the ranks of the Dinocratic party elite has paled in comparison to what the public record of felony conviction involving GOP

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Once again prove our statements... BTW, do you even realise that theperson in the post above,Hiram Monserrate, is a DEMOCRAT.... I know that you never let facts to saty in your way, but that is too much even for you...”
Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Hiram Monserrate's Christmas Party Crashed By Gay Activists (VIDEO)

Commented Dec 26, 2009 at 13:14:50 in New York

“So I ask *you* the very same question; what is your basis for opposing the human right of two consenting adults to marry being extended to those who happen to be gay?

If it a religious basis, I will remind you that ours is a secular nation founded upon the Rule of Law and grounded in the principle of the separation of church and state.

If you claim a scientific basis, you'd better have the empirical proof to back it up, and not mere prejudicial speculation and hearsay.

I'm looking forward to either of you authoritarians providing an actual straight, honest answer rather than further exercises in non sequitur drivel and convoluted intellectually bankrupt rationalizations defending willful ignorance and fearmongering bigotry.

Do tell.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant”
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