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Whole Foods GMO Labeling To Be Mandatory By 2018

Whole Foods GMO Labeling To Be Mandatory By 2018

Commented Mar 28, 2013 at 19:24:22 in Green

“Yeah Transgenesis is NOT the same as crossing Early Girls with Brandywines...”
Whole Foods GMO Labeling To Be Mandatory By 2018

Whole Foods GMO Labeling To Be Mandatory By 2018

Commented Mar 28, 2013 at 19:20:34 in Green

“I don't take any medications so you can put that logical fallacy to bed. We have the right to know what's in our food. Labels now.”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 22, 2012 at 13:47:25 in Green

“EMERGEEERD! I'm HPF super Hemorrhoid supreme!”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 15:18:08 in Green

“And by "GMOs" are you referring to commercially grown transgenic crops?”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 13:12:29 in Green

“I think you are confused. I am referring to the statistics regarding "Bt crops have reduced insecticide applications". The plant secretes its own so you are no longer applying it.”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 12:17:51 in Green

““It has been reduced.”

-Please link to your numbers.

“Especially the use of dangerous synthetic pesticides.”

-Whether that is true or not is a completely different argument from my point.”

HazelPethigFan on Oct 6, 2012 at 18:59:39

“little man, there is another article right here on hpost about pesticide use that says quite bluntly insecticide use has dropped since the intro of GMO. now go back to playing your video games in mom and dads basement”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 12:15:39 in Green

“I'm quite familiar with it's mode of action. My point is that the statistics may not tell the whole story.”

Alexander Kenan on Oct 5, 2012 at 12:33:35

“So basically you refuse to believe statistical facts? And all the science behind the safety and efficacy of Bt? And instead are going to go on a gut feeling that GMOs are bad?”
Pesticide Use Proliferating With GMO Crops, Study Warns

Pesticide Use Proliferating With GMO Crops, Study Warns

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 11:32:21 in Green

“I know it's used in organic, who is even talking to you? I asked why HPF was comparing the toxicity of an herbicide to an insecticide.. Your reading comprehension has not improved I see.”
Pesticide Use Proliferating With GMO Crops, Study Warns

Pesticide Use Proliferating With GMO Crops, Study Warns

Commented Oct 5, 2012 at 10:48:29 in Green

“Spinosad is an insecticide. RoundUp is an herbicide. Why are you comparing the two exactly?”

Farmer Guy on Oct 5, 2012 at 11:12:25

“Spinosad is used in organic, silly. Bt allows us to only spray pyrethroids now, maybe you should compare that with the organic insecticides, no? Let me know what you find out lol”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 22:03:16 in Green

“Slate.com is a peer reviewed journal? That authors doctorate is from where exactly? I can paraphrase your response as "No".”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 18:44:50 in Green

“All your links are older, short term animal feed studies. The Séralini study is from this year. Do you actually have any recent peer reviewed studies that outright refute the Séralini study? Or perhaps you can link to so some long-term human health studies?”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 16:05:13 in Green

“Thanks for playing! Better get going or you will miss the bus back to the group home!”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 13:59:46 in Green

“And considering that the Bt toxin found in the transgenic crop is different than those in the bacteria it's not a 1-to-1 comparison. The structure of the toxin is modified, the content in the plant is variable and thanks to "stacking" there are several Bt toxins in the crops at the same time. So there's that...”

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 15:36:46

“oh, of course. the modes of action are SO different in one protein to another, one of them is surely dangerous!!”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 13:37:39 in Green

“And your boy Séralini1 disagrees with you. He published an article in the peer-reviewed Journal of Applied Toxicology. Interesting stuff. But please, dismiss it without reading it and call us all Luddites. Then get back to cleaning toilets.

"Cytotoxicity on human cells of Cry1Ab and Cry1Ac Bt insecticidal toxins alone or with a glyphosate-based herbicide"

http://www.testbiotech.de/sites/default/files/PR_Bt_toxin_on%20human%20cells_0.pdf

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jat.2712/abstract

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 15:35:48

“LOLOLOLOL BreadnCircus just posted a seralini study! Stop the presses!!!!

Does it ever get embarrassing or tiring having to rely on the same greenpeace funded fraud for your lolworthy references?

http://www.medecine.uottawa.ca/bmi/assets/documents/dr_altosaar/dr_altosaar1.pdf

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/bk-1995-0605.ch012

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/12678290/reload=0;jsessionid=vsoGSe4hUJGQYzGPIWXC.0

http://www.cof.orst.edu/cof/teach/agbio2010/Readings%202010/are_bt_crops_safe_nat_bio_2003.pdf

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691509001392
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 12:56:37 in Green

“It shows that farmers are not paying attention to the refuge requirements. Lazy farmers. Always causing trouble...”

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 15:17:08

“It shows that your knowledge base on these issues is non-existent.”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 12:55:46 in Green

“The fact is pesticide use has not been reduced.”

AmKonDotNet on Oct 8, 2012 at 05:07:18

“They're right, there have been a slight pesticide reduction with the advent of gm crops, but problem is weeds are now becoming resistant to the pesticides, which means scientists have to modify plants to be resistant to other more dangerous pesticides, and the process repeats itself. All the while all of our topsoil is eroded down the Mississippi river, which of course no pro-gm farmer or supporter will tell you, nor will they tell you how all these chemicals are carcinogenic. There is nothing carcinogenic about organic farming, but there isn't multi-billion dollar profit for chemical companies...”

Alexander Kenan on Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58:50

“It has been reduced. Especially the use of dangerous synthetic pesticides. I would much rather replace things like arsenic with safe alternatives.”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54:55 in Green

“Hey did you get promoted to using the leafpak blower yet or you still using a broom to cleanup the commuter lot? Keep fighting the good fight!”

HazelPethigFan on Oct 6, 2012 at 18:47:21

“i see you are still an immature urban little asswholle”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 10:49:43 in Green

“That's odd. Why was Thomas' post removed? I have reprinted it below. I don't see anything offensive.

"More than 40% of food is wasted in the US. (http://uanews.org/node/10448) What food shortage? And why do you bring up the safety of GMOs? That had nothing to do with antipodal2u's original post. (Distraction!)"”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 10:45:17 in Green

“Although since the crops express their own Bt, the exposure is still there. Great so they don't spray it, it secretes it's own. So they spray less Bt but the plants just make their own. And you can't rinse this kind off...”

BIll Ellsworth on Oct 9, 2012 at 20:54:27

http://www.uclm.es/Actividades/repositorio/pdf/doc_3721_4666.pdf

Consider reading it...................................................................................
Gmo related toxins easily making their way past the (nonexistent) blood brain barriers of infants. I'll take a random guess and suppose that the incredible rise of cognitive disorders in America may not be totally caused by mercury, lead, other heavy metals (in addition to fluoride) alone, perhaps certain pesticides are neurotoxic. I never would have guessed.

And for the skeptical, how exactly can you disprove the findings of this study when they found the actual proteins of the altered dna in the bloodstream, oh wait you can't because it is obvious. The only reason there are not thousands of studies that shed light on the matter of GMO is because they are expensive, the genes are patented so the scientists must get permission, and most funding for GMO study comes from the producers of GMO themselves. Also most scientists do not want to have their career and work driven into the ground for exposing the truth, much like most economists spew crap onto paper and get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for further driving the market into oblivion.”

Alexander Kenan on Oct 5, 2012 at 12:00:56

“Bt is a protein that specifically interacts with the cells lining the gut of certain species of insects. You digest it quite easily. It is totally safe for humans (unless you are the one in a billion who might develop an allergy to it) and it reduces the use of dangerous insecticides. DDT anyone?”

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 12:13:26

“Bt is non-toxic to humans

So, theres that...

do you have new data you'd like to share?”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 09:45:45 in Green

“"Field-Evolved Resistance to Bt Maize by Western Corn Rootworm"

"This is the first report of field-evolved resistance to a Bt toxin by the western corn rootworm and by any species of Coleoptera. "

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0022629”

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 12:09:23

“Now hopefully mr. ag prfessional can explain how this incidence differs from any other time insects have become resistant to agricultural practices used to combat them.”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 09:40:17 in Green

““Monsanto and its corporate successors liable on all six counts it considered: negligence, wantonness, suppression of the truth, nuisance, trespass and outrage. Under Alabama law, the rare claim of outrage typically requires conduct "so outrageous in character and extreme in degree as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency so as to be regarded as atrocious and utterly intolerable in civilized society."

The Washington Post revealed Monsanto documents showing that the company
routinely dumped PCBs in Anniston and covered up its behavior for more
than 40 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 3, 2012 at 09:27:39 in Green

“"Contrary to often-repeated claims that today's genetically-engineered crops have, and are reducing pesticide use, the spread of glyphosate-resistant weeds in herbicide-resistant weed management systems has brought about substantial increases in the number and volume of herbicides applied. "

"Herbicide-resistant crop technology has led to a 239 million kilogram (527 million pound) increase in herbicide use in the United States between 1996 and 2011, while Bt crops have reduced insecticide applications by 56 million kilograms (123 million pounds). Overall, pesticide use increased by an estimated 183 million kgs (404 million pounds), or about 7%. "

http://www.enveurope.com/content/24/1/24/abstract

FrenchKissed on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:46:49

“Roundup resistant weeds are a result of the improper use of glyphosate; it's a problem that predates transgenic crops, and is not too widespread to be corrected. Monsanto's latest herbicide tolerant biotech seed resists both glyphosate and glufosinate, so that farmers can easily switch back and forth between the two and thereby eliminate the problem.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3075699
(or copy/paste http://www.colby.edu/biology/BI402B/Huang%202002.pdf for full access)
With Bt • yield* 3,371 • pesticide applications 6.6 • quantity* 11.8
W/O Bt • yield* 3,186 • pesticide applications 19.8 • quantity* 60.7
*kg per hectacre

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/nature11153.html
On the basis of data from 1990 to 2010 at 36 sites in six provinces of northern China, we show here a marked increase in abundance of three types of generalist arthropod predators (ladybirds, lacewings and spiders) and a decreased abundance of aphid pests associated with widespread adoption of Bt cotton and reduced insecticide sprays in this crop. We also found evidence that the predators might provide additional biocontrol services spilling over from Bt cotton fields onto neighbouring crops”

Farmer Guy on Oct 3, 2012 at 12:10:42

“LOL. So, we stopped spraying the truly toxic chemicals and started spraying more glyphosate (which is the safest herbicide ever used), and you have a problem with this?

You are truly an earth warrior, my dear bread!”

Bread n Circus on Oct 3, 2012 at 10:45:17

“Although since the crops express their own Bt, the exposure is still there. Great so they don't spray it, it secretes it's own. So they spray less Bt but the plants just make their own. And you can't rinse this kind off...”
GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

GMO Debate Heats Up: Critics Say Biotech Industry Manipulating Genes, And Science

Commented Oct 2, 2012 at 20:19:55 in Green

“"how do tactics contain lead? they are abstract thoughts, and therefore cannot contain metal. Im confused....” "

-At least they didn't try and tell people that transgenic crops produce bacteria...”
Justin Bieber Pukes On Stage (VIDEO)

Justin Bieber Pukes On Stage (VIDEO)

Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 12:23:49 in Celebrity

“And I was like baby, baby, BLLLLARRRRGGGHHHH.... I thought you'd always be mine, mine...”
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