“Wow, you've definitely got the key to the holy grail on understanding what's going on here. Thanks for sharing it. Thanks for snapping me out of the starry-eyed trance I fell into. Thanks for discovering caution and cynicism and passing them along to the rest of the world. Nobody before you ever thought to hold onto even just a teeny weeny tiny little shred of skepticism while applauding a decent gesture.
I'll retract my applause. Coke can suck an egg.
btw don't take any of this seriously. It's bathed in sarcasm. I even washed behind the ears.”
“The premise is, "Coke has diverted money from serving its own interests to serving a community. Coke receives positive exposure that contributes to its original self-interested goals. However, that is not a bad thing, because Coke is still serving the community by offering some relief to disaster victims."
The premise is not, "Coke is going to offset any future slaughter by way of some minor charitable contribution."
You seem to be the only person confused about this.”
MDZX on Nov 27, 2013 at 11:44:16
“It's not so straightforward. It depends on how effective the charity is (are they just getting free Coke? Actually, a lot of publicity "charity" is pretty terrible), how much people will then ignore the negative contributions of Coke to the world (helping along mass childhood obesity, etc), and so on. Don't be fooled, Coke has not diverted money from serving its own interests. This is serving its own interests, and will probably increase profits beyond using it for regular advertising.
The point is not that I'm mad Coke donated some cash to disaster aid, it's that I am warning people against believing that Coke is somehow a good corporation for doing so or deserves a pass on any of the bad things it does.”
“You're comparing a soda company to a mass murderer? I don't think that even Jean Claude Van Damme straddling a pair of Volvo trucks is flexible enough to make that connection.”
MDZX on Nov 26, 2013 at 15:45:34
“Hardly, though Coke has it's own sketchy past. The point is that if the end result is all that truly counts, then situations like what I described should be equivalent. Obviously, they aren't, so the premise is flawed.”
“Oh no, friend. You've already played the xenophobic hand.
And, before we romanticize the things we used to stand for, too much, let's reflect on some of those values. Treatment of black people. Treatment of native people. Treatment of women. Treatment of Irish, Italian, Japanese, south- and central-American, middle-eastern, pretty much any and all immigrants from anywhere outside northwestern Europe (except the Irish, of course!). Anti-Semitism. Catholic marginalization. Mormon persecution. Muslim suspicion. Manifest Destiny and the PATRIOT ACT. ... ... ...”
“uhhhhmmmmmm... k, right, what are you trying to say?
And, whatever on assumptions. He's a graduate of the Naval Academy, and a career officer of 20+ years. It's a safe assumption that the U.S. would be "his" country, despite having been adopted out of the war-ravaged country where he was born.”
OhioSpeaks on Nov 5, 2013 at 12:48:33
“CH: I guess he is a true American... he thought nothing of robbing us and betraying everything we USED to stand for. But he did get prostitute services and I don't think it gets any better than that, do you?”