“Yes, I got that. It's an accounting equation, therefore obviously it's referencing revenue, and only revenue.
Sorry, I can't stop being an outtathebox thinker, so I can't stop wondering what real-value is when looked at from another angle. Since you're obviously linear or intheboxthinker, Can I ask you: What is the value of an executive that doesn't actually sell anything or single-handedly (like the sales employee) bring in anything? Serious question. I do have trouble staying on track in linear discussions.”
“I got it. I don't know if other commenters didn't get it or they're just too eager to comment on the bigger issues of 'worker value'. The wording is baiting, whether it's the official wording of SAAP or not.
BTW: When you look at it that way, the 'actual value' of the fast food worker is actually higher than the apple store employee. As each are needed to sell each and every one of those burgers or computers. And these two products are a good comparison, as buyers don't really go to 'browse' for either one. Unlike, say, a clothing boutique or luxury car dealership, where customers may spend hours 'just looking' and a very hard sell is often needed. These products sell themselves.
So selling 100 units of a product could be considered much higher productivity than selling one. The fast-food employee is working 100-times more.”
behaviorguy on Jun 1, 2014 at 20:42:53
“Not when you're defining 'value' as revenue per employee. total revenue minus employee cost, divided by number of employees. Most valuable employee is the one that makes the company the most money, in that equation.”
“My initial reply to you should have clarified why I think it's a worrisome thing that we are going in this direction. Your, this, reply doesn't address that at all, but to answer this comment of yours:
You mean tagging? When they alert me to a tag of myself, it may be me, someone else or an artichoke in someone's foodie-shot. It's very fallible right now, very crude, (and yet, I still find it intrusive and creepy. I don't like tags).
Additionally, as yet, I don't THINK they are cataloguing us, creating files of all of our activities, "just in case" like J. Edgar Hoover, but only because they can't accomplish it yet. Yes, I know some market researchers do a 1/2-Azzzzed job of that too. If I read an interesting article in the divorce section, the next day I get emails for match.com, (happens every time!) But again, it's very crude, very haphazard. Big Brother may be watching, but he's got serious ADHD.
The technology will get better and then of course the Government and law enforcement applications for it will grow. And as you have pointed out, it is already being used by private industry, their applications for it will also grow. That is the nature of technology.”
“What I get from this article is that the technology is now, far from very useful, but they are spending loads of money on it and it will get better. It is coming, no mistake. The concern is that the potential for abuse is staggering and frightening. Imagine anyone, (as someone said below) from Occupy Wall Street, or if you're on the other side of the aisle; someone from the Tea Party can be identified, targeted and harassed because they are political troublemakers.
Even if you trust those in power now, those who may be elected or whatever, come into power in the future won't always be on your side.
The constitutional privacy protections were there for a reason.”
MyTwoCentsB4Taxes on Jun 1, 2014 at 04:23:56
“Are you aware that Facebook already has and utilizes this technology?”
“It's not about Ed Snowden. It's about the information he brought to light. He may or may not be a hero or a traitor, HE as a person, is irrelevant. The information he brought to light is the point. You really came onto this article about facial recognition technology being fine-tuned and used by the FBI & CIA and all that will entail and came to the conclusion that we care about whether or not Ed is a good guy?
Are you inferring that you absolutely trust that the powers that be, (or will be in future) are (and will always be)working for your best interest, and the best interest of the country? This is scary stuff they're doing! The potential for abuse of such technology is frightening.”
“Me too. I like having adult conversations here not having to worry about Fb changing their security system every month or so without warning and posting my comments to the friend of a friend of a friend without my prior approval. We said this when they joined up with aol: This place was a great idea and forum to exchange info and ideas about so many topics. Even with the moderators, it was the best of unfettered idea and info exchange. They've ruined it.”
“I guess the obvious message would be 'North=bad, South=good', but I've read only a handful of books and interviews of North Koreans who have escaped and these photos of NK show none of the horror, starvation, injustice, deprivation, subjugation, fear and those people went through and that those still living there go through. Families ripped apart, imprisoned for years or for life for being related to someone who may have been thought to say or do something wrong. Sheer terror. On and on. These photos show not even a hint of that.
Just from a visual interpretation, in fact, the two don't look good or bad, better or worse. Neither look particularly inviting to me. The concrete jungle of Times Square-ish hustle and bustle looks just as uninviting as the plain, (shockingly pristine) concrete buildings and streets in NK photos. So maybe good vs. bad is not the point, which is curious, because again, it's pretty common knowledge that life in NK is horrendous and it has nothing to do with the clutter of capitalism or the lack of junk or electronic toys people have.
Maybe it's just not a well thought out or well done photo-essay?”
GWBear on May 31, 2014 at 08:53:27
“I have to agree. If this was an essay in major contrast, that was supposed to tell a story of stark contrast, then it failed miserably. Most of us know there are some huge cultural, economic, and political differences, but these pictures do not bring that forward... at least in the way I belive the photographer and writer of this article intended.”
“Ha! I got Luddite too. I Obviously have no idea which state goooogles ' Allah' or 'satanic ritual' the most - more to the point I really don't care. I'm not opposed to technology per se, but I do think we have gotten to a point of advancing tech way beyond usefulness. Your example of the remote for a 7" TV screen is just one. I love my computer, but I can't figure out why the average person needs to be jacked in to the internet literally- 24/7.
My son found this joke (on the internet!) that said, "If you could go back in time to the 1940's or earlier and you told someone some day we will all be able to carry around a small handheld device that can access all the knowledge of human kind ever recorded, yet you use it to look up pictures of kittens, they really wouldn't believe you". :)”
“Angus is a good old Scottish name. Not too common these days, but not uncommon in the UK, either. It's a great name.”
Ed VanDyke on May 24, 2014 at 20:54:48
“More than likely my "lineage" has a little Scottish in it, but I'm predominantly Dutch, with equal parts Irish, German and Norwegian. Only those who Love him most know my hero by his first name. Most simply call him Macguyver.. ;)”
“I wonder if they were asked to comment to the mirror on their own appearance or if that is just the natural reaction we all have to mirrors/to seeing ourselves. They ALL picked themselves apart to the mirror. All of them. I wonder if there were any participants who just checked out if their tie was straight, or make-up on properly, shirt tucked in, etc… without dumping on themselves. Do we ALL do this?”
May 23, 2014 at 22:35:25
“I'd have to respectfully disagree with Tamia H.. I think they just don't think about the whole picture, the larger society. I don't know about India, but in China it is a strongly observed custom for the eldest son to care for the parents in their old age. A daughter would go live with her in-laws and take care of THEM not her own parents. So time and money spent on raising a boy is literally an investment in their retirement, time and money spent on raising a girl is 'wasted'. This is situation is heightened because of the one-child policy, they only have one chance, but even without it, resources are very scarce, beyond what we from the West could comprehend. Each ('each' - figuratively) family thinks of themselves, not the impact on the whole society or how their retirement/future welfare is integrated with others in their village or society. They don't know or care where the girls will come from, they only know/think - THEY need a son to take care of them.”
“That's quite possibly it, a very good bet. Another possibility; if it goes into default the lenders can then bundle it and sell it with bad debt, and in that way collect the full amount quickly. I know the bundling CDO's was also used in student loans, not just house mortgages. I think they may still be doing it.”
“Well, after having read all of the other replies to you about NASA. If you still feel that way, then I think you're unteachable. (Never mind that you could actually search these facts on your own). Your opinion is based on personal emotion or need not on fact. It can never be changed, so no point in furthering the discussion. Too sad.”
libertymen on May 22, 2014 at 06:20:59
“Its my opinion.You have yours.
Who is to say what priority should be first?
The need in the USA is immediate.NOW.
NASA?Pie in the sky sounds right.
Their budget has been reduced because their "RESULTS" lacked immediacy, importance and cost too much.”
“One of the things I learned was that "I" can't piggy-back on HIS hardships. Something you obviously haven't learned. And if you're trying to say your father went through these hardships during the great depression, AND pulled himself out of it and made "more money than god" DURING the great depression, I think that would be an amazing feat, but I doubt it is true. They were perilously hard times, but they ended. Most people who 'pulled themselves out of it' did so after it ended. They went through the war, the war years and after that, in the 50's it was quite easy; quite a different landscape for Americans rebuilding.”
“We all have more money than god. (If you believe in god), god doesn't use money. Conflating god with your true deity, mammon is one of the biggest problems in this line of thinking.
Another is the misconception that if your dad, (not you, mind you, you didn't suffer, he did, which means that he owns it, not you, but I digress...) pulled himself together back in the what, '40's, 50's, 60's, even 70's? That it's the same today. It's not. My dad did the same, so what?
Lastly, it's not really the bad choices, but bad options that catches people out. You will of course conveniently forget about those. Ignorance must be bliss.”
34Redsox on May 20, 2014 at 10:36:13
“Really, your dad so what. I guess you didn't learn anything for him, I DID...that was the point and I know that depression thing was just a drop in the bucket at what is going on now a days...whew....”
“Ha! I totally get that. I agree, me too. I was trying to avoid the 't' word which would get my post deleted. You always see one or two on these 'All Work No Pay' articles, but there is a real swarm here today.”
“Yes, PK, I agree. I may be wrong about my premise above, but even if I'm right; I don't think understanding where he's coming from lends me to find sympathy for him, actually the opposite. I think it's important to try to understand the dynamic in order to enact effective change for the next generation and to see the signs for what they really are, or at least to warn potential victims away. I'd doubt a man like this even knows, himself why he's doing it, and therefore, it's impossible to see through the 'veneer' of his being such a prince charming in the first-phase. It's not an act, he really believes it - at the time.
Actually, I think I'm the one being heartless here, as I think this approach is most pragmatic, but definitely a 'specimen-under-the-microscpoe' approach to seeing the predator/abuser clearly.
I'm not sure why, but the psychology of these dynamics is always interesting to me, (I must've missed my calling). I definitely need to get this book. Thanks for the recommendation. Hope you are well these days. :)”
peacekitten on May 18, 2014 at 05:43:08
“they may not know why they do it, but they also don't care. it's something they feel entitled to do on some level. they become so wrapped up in themselves, and the abuse becomes like a drug to them, because it releases some very bizarre parts of their brains, like a fix. they get relief, until they feel the need to do it again, and they will seek that relief more and more when they know they can get away with it. only their victim suffers, and as they isolate her more and more, she becomes more and more emotional, while he is seen as the long suffering partner to put up with her neuroses. they are absolutely masterful manipulators, and everything they do is geared towards their own needs. there simply is no one else in the world of any consequence to them. whether their dark needs are driven by self-loathing or not, ultimately is irrelevant. i think you'll find bancroft's book most elucidating. it is as stark and clear a picture of abusive personalities as anything i've ever read. it's almost inconceivable as to how a person can become that way, because the coldness of it is overwhelming. there are just some boundaries that are not to be crossed, ever. not ever. there's no going back. violence just has no place in relationships, ever. ”