“Most minimum wage jobs are "robotic". There is no much creativity on flipping burgers or mopping floors. It is also a physical job so the fact that they have to walk makes perfect sense. Checking them for stolen items also makes sense. Many companies do it. My aunt was a top chemist at El Alamo and she was checked (and weight) after work to make sure she was not smuggling secret info.
The only thing that bothers me is the fact that they are not being paid while waiting in line for these pat downs (or whatever they call them). Also that the lunch area is so far that they waste time getting there. No air conditioning inside the warehouse depends on the temperature and ventilation inside. Many people work outdoors under the sun or in the snow.
The rest of the complains, are blown out of proportion.”
Anthro on Nov 29, 2013 at 14:20:06
“I agree with the gist of your comment. I worked in fulfillment (for a much smaller company) and there was a HUGE problem with pilfering--one woman bragged openly about how much stuff she simply walked out with after each shift. I ratted on her and she got fired. I wonder if she filed for unemployment?
I think Amazon is justified to check for stolen stuff, but they need to do it as efficiently as they get those packages out, not make people wait (hard to tell if the story related here is typical).”
MarieBaby35 on Nov 29, 2013 at 13:55:20
“I agree. I worked in the blazing sun in aircraft sitting on the asphalt for years or on the burning metal itself. We had NO air-conditioning in the hangers and they were a mile long and wide. I had to wait in line to clock out and walk another half mile thru guard gates and to car to and from work. Depending where you were at lunch time you may spend almost your entire time getting to a lunch wagon, the cafeteria, and back. Hard work running up and down aircraft from nose to tail and belly to top every day. Loved my job, paid well and worked hard. When it rained and our ship was outside we worked in the rain. Seems anymore nobody really wants to WORK.”
Anthony Steven Lewis on Nov 29, 2013 at 13:44:53
“Agreed. Having worked fast food I can attest to being timed on getting orders ready.
Agree on your whole second paragraph as well. They definitely need to make improvements, but that can pretty much be said for any business that uses low wage workers.”
“The MRI explained that having one may pose a risk on my baby but there were not enough studies about it. I figured that a brain tumor may pose a higher risk.
I developed preeclampsia and my baby was born 1 month premature (weighing less than 6 lb), although I doubt it had anything to do with my mini stroke. He is 6 now and super healthy and incredibly bright (being tested for the gifted program in his school). ”
“When I was 5 months pregnant I suffered what a doctor later thought was a mini stroke. I was eating at restaurant with a friend and got a huge migraine. I started stuttering and could not control my speech.
I was in a foreign country but two days later I came back to the US. My doctor ordered an MRI but nothing came out. To this day it is a mystery.”
“Then the article's headline would be "Police taze mother in front of her children".
It's a no win situation for police. They should not have shot the van. But also, the mother should not have acted like she did. She is the one who put her children in danger.
Regardless of the punishment that the policeman receives, I hope CPS removes the children from this woman. And I hope that she does not receive a dime if she files a lawsuit (her children were not hurt and any emotional distress was caused by their own mother's actions).”
“I work at an agency that advocates rights and assists poor people. We are located in the rural South. Many of my client are poor old White Republicans. They rant about Socialism and Obama but request my services (free for them and paid by taxpayers money) when they need to obtain Food Stamps, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. They simply do not understand that they complain about the same thing they get. They honestly believe that Medicaid is welfare if someone else gets it but it is their right when they get it.”
CPAwADD on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:15:45
“Gosh, dare I say it? They sound uninformed and deceived.”
Kendal Henry on Nov 13, 2013 at 16:16:33
“Don't you realize that their hypocrisy has no limits..”
MissTigress on Nov 13, 2013 at 16:02:52
MissTigress on Nov 13, 2013 at 16:02:06
“I'm sure this government they hate so much helped them every step of the way yet they don't want to reach back to help those in the same way they were helped.”
MissTigress on Nov 13, 2013 at 16:00:30
ScarlettMocha on Nov 13, 2013 at 15:57:02
“Now you understand the republican base. Too many whites believe it's welfare where blacks are concerned, but a right where they are concerned.”
mlank64 on Nov 13, 2013 at 15:52:52
“Well that's basicly what the republicans and specifically the teaparty crowd advocate. They are not against social programs like food stamps, welfare, and medicaid. They are just against certain groups receiving what they've been receiving all along. Its not the programs...its the fact they don't want to see brown and black people receiving it.”
BobSacomano on Nov 13, 2013 at 15:48:43
“It's no different in the North, believe me.”
cscobirds on Nov 13, 2013 at 15:46:06
“Thank you for posting this, it amazes me too.”
DCH92111 on Nov 13, 2013 at 15:45:27
“That's what happens when people rely on Fox News for...actual news.”
“The model is right. A stick thin woman is a stick. The more weight women gain the more the body changes differently in different parts. Some women gain weight in the abdomens, some in their butts, some in their waist, some in their breasts. It its difficult to design clothing that will fit perfectly on a 200lb woman because of the their bodies are bodies are so different.
I am not saying that they can not look gorgeous in a dress. But they will have to tailor it to their bodies.”
Nov 10, 2013 at 19:25:01
“I am a minority. I do not think I have been discriminated by actions but by thoughts -- people assuming I am not educated, or poor, or full of children. But I never really cared. My actions proved them wrong and they ended up looking as fools.”
“I sure that Palin does not complaining about the "free" things she gets: public education for her children, roads, fire and police services, an army that protects the country, libraries, etc.
Of course nothing is free (I and seriously doubt that she took Economy 101 at any of the 5 colleges she attended while trying to get a Bachelor's degree). The question is what do we want to pay for and what do we can to cut off. And BTW, something tells me you will not complain about the national debt once there is a Republican president.”
Nov 10, 2013 at 08:30:58
“I wonder if the people who support affirmative action in academics also support affirmative action in sports. After all, some groups are underrepresented and discriminated simply because of stereotypes (whites can't jump). Certain groups did not have easy access to training facilities as others (most public housing projects and inner city buildings have a basketball court within walking distance but people living in the suburbs have to drive). Oh, poor Asians, underrepresented in most Olympic sports.”
Nov 10, 2013 at 08:23:16
“But under your logic, the same should happen at college and beyond. A poor high school student will also be a poor college student, unable to afford doing unpaid internships, get extra tutoring in difficult subjects or buy materials for projects. Also lacking the connections that could land him a good job in the future.
Under you logic, affirmative action should also be applied when giving grades in college because the minority student came with a disadvantage (not the same solid foundation). And once he graduates, employers should also give them preference, despite his own competence and merit, because he did not have a fair life.
BTW, I am a minority.”
libnici on Nov 10, 2013 at 18:41:32
“I said nothing about grades. I absolutely struggled my freshman year. I did go for extra tutoring and had to play catch up. However, with extra hours of studying and tutoring I graduated manga cum. Once there no one gave me anything. Now my classmates who had famous parents or ancestors who attended our school were most certainly given passes I could never expect And yes, diversity should be prioritized at every level. Research has shown that minorities that make it to leadership positions or in my case medicine, do more for minority communities than their non minority counterparts.
You are obviously not a minority that has ever been discriminated against.”
“Oh my, there is no reasoning with you. You don't seem to understand that what a person WANTS is not always what it's BEST. You make want to drink alcohol until you pass out but that does not mean that it is best for your. The "educated" community has an opinion about it. And by educated I mean professionals (doctors, psychologist). You probably think they are "elite" who know nothing.
I can tell by your post that you live/have lived a dysfunctional life yourself and that is the reason you can't see anything wrong with this victims actions. I am not saying that I don't understand WHY she is doing what she is doing (giving interviews). I am saying it is not best for her healing process.”
emhemo on Nov 10, 2013 at 08:29:22
“you can tell by my post ....oh please enlighten me as to how you came to the conclusion that i lived a dysfunctional life from two sentences.”
“You are right about your statement. They key word is AVERAGE. The average white is better off than the average black. But not all. And it is not fair to provide an advantage to a group based on AVERAGE statistics instead of actual facts. In average, short people make less money than tall people, and pretty people the same compared to ugly people. Should we promote the admission or short ugly people? ”
imsolarry on Nov 12, 2013 at 15:51:25
“I agree that sucks and yet the typical white short person in the US will not face the same biases of the typical minority short person. Ideally, discrimination of all sorts would be eliminated, but that's easier said that done. In a perfect world, you should just be able to set your standard and promote the admission of those that meet that standard.”
“Affirmative action assumes that all minorities are at a disadvantage. That is not true. There are many minority children that have a better start that white kids. If you want to favor a group because you believe that they (or their parents) did not have a fair life, the I recommend to give priority to 3rd generation poor people. If you are poor, your parents were poor and your grandparents were poor, voila! you are admitted. Seems more fair than preference based on your skin color.”
Monte924 on Nov 9, 2013 at 19:39:24
“I agree. I mean it does not seem like a whole lot of schools today openly discriminate against minorities(some might); without affirmative action the minorities and whites would be on an even playing field. However the reason why there IS such a gap between whites and minorities at schools is because minorities make up a disproportionate part of the lower class. That lower class status gives them a poorer education and makes it more difficult for them to get into better schools and thus leads to less of them going off to college. If a minority grew up as part of the middle class, then he's not gonna need help getting into a college; his chances are as good as any white kid. But poor kids, black or white, they are all gonna have trouble.
This might also help out the economy. If those poor kids can't get a shot at a better education then they are less likely to get a good job and thus will remain poor; Then their kids will get a poor education and the cycle continues. Help the lower class get the education they need to get better jobs and you can help more of them help themselves to making it into the middle class. The stronger middle class, the stronger the economy.”
imsolarry on Nov 9, 2013 at 19:31:11
“Affirmative action assumes that institutionalized bias with origins in slavery, discrimination, and racism has disadvantaged minority groups in general. While I prefer a true meritocracy, it can't be ignored that the average white person doesn't face the same obstacles of the average minority in the US. The typical poor white person will not face some of the additional hurdles of the typical poor minority.”
“I am a minority and I do not believe in affirmative action or legacies. Admission should be based on Merit only. SAT scores and essay. Maybe an extra point for extracurricular activities. I actually do not believe in HS grades or placement because some schools are better than others. A 3.5 GP in one school could easily mean a 2.8 GPA in another.”
“So is this man asking UCLA to accept a less qualified candidate simply because he is black?
I think that university applications should be done using random code instead of a name. No way to list gender, race or even age. Submit your grades, your essay and whatever else they require. Let the best applicants in.”
Joseph Zelinski on Nov 9, 2013 at 17:48:10
“You cannot tell one applicant from another, merit wise, for about 80% of the qualified applicants. They all have about the same grades and SAT scores.”
Vaughn Owens on Nov 9, 2013 at 16:31:52
“What about there athletic teams? African Americans make up a disproportionate number of the revenue generating sports.How do the manage that?”
bavaria12345678910 on Nov 9, 2013 at 16:11:50
“Agree with you totally, everyone on their own merit!”
“Of course she decides. But some decision are better than others. It is like saying "Well, I think she gets to decide to be a porn star, do drugs, have many children with multiple men and watch TV all day". It is her decision. The question is, is that the best course of action? In her mind, yes. But in reality. no.”
“You are right that she is an adult. However, she is not fully mentally competent. Someone is advising her and very badly. This may be what the thinks is part of her "journey to healing" but it is not what the educated consensus recommends.”
emhemo on Nov 10, 2013 at 06:49:45
“what do you know what the 'educated' consensus recommends?! wtf? they're not in her shoes.
and she sounded fine to me.”
btheladynred on Nov 8, 2013 at 22:17:43
“And you think you know what is best for her? Instead of judging why not help. You can go to Dr. Phil's website and donate money to help her. No one else is helping her, this was her way of getting help.”
“These girls need to heal. They do not need to go out on the national media, give our interviews, write a book, etc. They need love, support and therapy. It is too early to expose your torture on TV. Any decent psychologist or counselor will tell you that,
I believe this girl's family is exploding her for money (whether consciously or not). Jayce Duggard's mother did the perfect thing by shielding her and her daughters from the hungry greedy media.”
emhemo on Nov 10, 2013 at 06:47:19
“she said she wanted to set the story straight because there had been some false things said about her and her ordeal.”
Janna99 on Nov 9, 2013 at 05:40:29
“I think *she* gets to decide what she needs, how she heals, who she talks to. Not you.”
ChoppyBob on Nov 8, 2013 at 22:41:53
“agreed. she should work through it in private, for some years.
if she wants to discuss it after, then ok.
not having a family, I think she's more vulnerable than the other girls.”
btheladynred on Nov 8, 2013 at 21:00:13
“This is a grown woman, not a child. Her family isn't even involved in her life. She is getting help from all of this, and no one forced her to do the interview. I can guarantee this was part of her journey into healing.”
Nov 7, 2013 at 11:31:15
“So now you are comparing murder with suicide? Talk about changing the subject. And no, South Africa is far from an industrialized country. They do have nice cities with plenty of modern luxuries (and you can find that even in Kenya), but as a whole is far from what it is a developed country.
I guess it makes you feel better to compare US with Somalia.”