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Richard Horton Waffles on Lancet's Wakefield Retraction

Commented Feb 17, 2010 at 15:42:04 in Healthy Living

“John Stone

Contrast, if you will the actions of the 'editor of the Lancet' against Andrew Wakefield ... and his weasel words of support for Professor Sir Roy Meadow whose erroneous expert testimony sent women - like Sally Clark - to jail for life for crimes they did not commit, for crimes that hadn't happened.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/331/7508/66-a#112701

Horton's conscience must be dizzy with the spin.”

Dyson on Feb 17, 2010 at 19:06:22

“Seems like when one doctor is struck off by the GMC for misconduct you think thats good (Meadow). I thought you guys thought the GMC were a bunch of pantloads because they found against Wakefield.

I see Meadow gave some evidence acting as an expert witness for a case of possible child abuse. He quite unknowingly gave the wrong statsitical interpretation to the jury (and this was ignored by the defence team).

Now I understand Wakefield was being paid by vaccine damage lawyers for expert witness testimony on the link to autism.

I wonder what he actually said?
Did he say vaccine caused autism?
Do you guys know?
Do you imagine he said they were unconnected, after getting $700K from the lawyers?”

Sheldon101 on Feb 17, 2010 at 17:39:35

“As far Meadow is concerned, I don't have enough knowledge to comment.

As to Wakefield, CelticLeopard is correct, there is a contrast in has actions. Horton put his self-interest and the self-interest of The Lancet over the duty he had to his readers and the public. He should have clearly admitted his mistakes and much earlier withdrawn the paper and castigated Wakefield and the others in print and before the GMC.

He was and is much too soft on them.”
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Richard Horton Waffles on Lancet's Wakefield Retraction

Commented Feb 17, 2010 at 15:26:37 in Healthy Living

“Weasel words from Mr/Ms Dyson. Ugh!”

Dyson on Feb 17, 2010 at 19:15:46

“Do you agree then that these risky procedures should be done on all autistic kids?”
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Richard Horton Waffles on Lancet's Wakefield Retraction

Commented Feb 17, 2010 at 15:23:33 in Healthy Living

“John Stone

"Goodness what a model of professional integrity for our age!"

Perhaps Horton has a conscience of sorts ... and perhaps his conscience is spinning furiously while emitting copious hot gas. Maybe Dr Horton thinks that spewing lots of hot air into the atmosphere may keep his soul from descending freely ... and then being consumed into the icy depths of 'McScientific' purgatory.”
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Richard Horton Waffles on Lancet's Wakefield Retraction

Commented Feb 17, 2010 at 12:58:09 in Healthy Living

“Poor old Dr Horton! The fundamental witness to the "Dawn of McScience" ...

http://www.lobbywatch.org/archive2.asp?arcid=3305

... must be a tortured soul, dangling by his toes, buffeted this way and that, by hot winds of conflicted interest and cold blasts of corrupted science.”

JohnDanStone on Feb 17, 2010 at 13:35:15

“Celtic Leopard

But by the beginning of 2008 he was in the forefront of an initiative to increase the medical profession's ties to industry:

'Royal college sets up working party to improve relations between doctors and drug industry

Annabel Ferriman BMJ 5 January 2008


'The Royal College of Physicians has set up a joint working party with the drug industry to try to create a better relationship between doctors and drug companies, so as to improve the care of patients.

'The group, chaired by Richard Horton, editor of the Lancet, is taking oral evidence from doctors and academics and representatives of the industry, medical journals, and regulators. It has also asked interested parties to submit written evidence by 31 March.

'In a letter inviting submissions Dr Horton and Ian Gilmore, the college’s president, say: "There are barriers perceived to exist between the industry, the NHS and academic medicine that inhibit a truly dynamic and productive relationship between the key players, working in the best interests of patients....'

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/336/7634/14-a

Good to have a URL to 'The Dawn of McScience'. Goodness what a model of professional inegrity for our age!”