ChangeNow's Comments (92)

“Like you want to see the unedited ACORN videos?”

“and that would make you feel better how?”

“I'll bet that when they edit those "catch a predator" shows they leave out a lot of stuff too. I wonder if those pervs feel as maligned as the gun dealers?”

“That's not the point. The point is that no matter what, gun buyers should have to pass a background check. In a way, you comment support the gun-control side in that the problem is that we're selling these guns at all. He was an example of a heretofore lawful citizen who legally bought a gun and became a mass murderer.”

“There was a shooting in Vermont?

I think you mean VA, as in Virginia...”

“You remember correctly. He passed a background check twice.”

“Cho bought his guns from a FFL dealer, and passed a 'Brady Background Check'. He should have been denied because, IIRC, there was an issue concerning his mental health.

The only mass shooting I know of, where any of the guns came from a gun show, was Columbine. I believe one of the shooters' mothers bought it. So, she could have just as easily bought it at a gun store. She may have even had to go through a NICS check at the show. It depends who she bought it from.”

“Save me from having to speculate - do you believe private citizens without criminal or mental issues should be allowed to own guns? What is your position regarding gun ownership?

I'm pro gun ownership, pro background check, anti private sale, pro manditory training, and anti registration. Your turn.”

“What about my reply indicated that "you guys will be convinced you saved us all"? And what do you know about the intentions of "people like me", other than what you speculate?”

“There was no "reply" link on your response, so I will do so here.

"Once all private sales require documentation and it becomes a felony to sell guns without it, we'll review the numbers. Incidentally, why so histrionic? Or is that part of your schtick?"

What could possibly be histrionic about my post? If you had read the things I have written, you would understand that I AGREE WITH YOU regarding private sales - I just think that focusing on gun shows misses the point. I would like to see all sales require a background check. I would not want to record those sales however, because people like you would use those records to take away guns lawful purchasers. I'm trying to meet you half way - can you do the same?”

“Once all private sales require documentation and it becomes a felony to sell guns without it, we'll review the numbers. Incidentally, why so histrionic? Or is that part of your schtick?”

“I definitely support the idea of making sure people are well trained--but am unwilling to put anything into law with the BC's well documented bad faith practices--a year after the Clinton AWB passed--the BC aggressively went after the Ruger minis and other firearms deliberately EXCLUDED from the Clinton bill --as well as the BC's attempts to demonize scope mounted hunting/target rifles as "sniper rifles"”

“"and the unreasonable fee charged by the 1 FFL in DC namely $125 so someone can bring a firearm into DC since there is not 1 stocking gunstore in DC is why I tend to oppose that"

I agree that given the opportunity, some FFLs would gouge. The fee should be set at a standard rate, say $5.”

“and the unreasonable fee charged by the 1 FFL in DC namely $125 so someone can bring a firearm into DC since there is not 1 stocking gunstore in DC is why I tend to oppose that”

“It is not now nor has it ever been, nor wil lit ever be the government's business what guns I own, purchase or sell. Getting the NICS check is tantamount to backdoor registration as the gooberment gets your name, SSN and the make, model and serial number of the gun. Besides that, the 4473 is kept for decades for perusal by your not so friendly ATF. As for another comment regarding ammuniton, well many reload their own. besides, there will be plenty on the battlefield from downed enemies.”

“Closing the gun show loophole will doubtlessly lead to legislation requiring documentation and registry of all firearms sales. That's really why it's "not worth bothering", isn't it?”

“Re-reading this I realized you got me...CALIBER.
Nevermind.”

“So, exercising a Right is detrimental to that Right.

How... Orwellian.”

“Faved. I don't own a gun (or firearm) but have lived around sportsmen all my life. You make more sense thatn all the other people posting combined.”

“" I have grudgeingly come to the conclusion that private sales are ultimately detrimental to our gun rights, because they help put guns in the wrong hands. I would cautiously support a requirement that all private transactions should be processed by an FFL for the purpose of the background check."

We have, on numerous occasions, suggested to Paul that opening up the NICS system to private sellers was the cure for his 'gun show loophole'. He responded with a feigned concern for people's personal information getting into the wrong hands. The fact is, the BC is out to eliminate as many types of 'sales' as they possibly can. And, if the 'gun show loophole' went away, that's one less talking point for the BC.

However, since gun show guns only account for 2% of crime guns, closing this 'loophole' would have no real effect (How many gangbangers do you see at gun shows?). Then the BC would just find something else for us to 'compromise' on.”

“I think mounting attacks on gun shows is tactical and meant to be emotional, to make an emotional appeal - remember, those who hate and fear guns, think a "gun show" is some kind of peculiar hell on earth.

Attacking people for simply engaging in personal transactions, well, it directly evokes the not-legal way almost all of us pick up household items like marijuana and xanax, for one thing... two private citizens engaging in trade without the gun show as back drop, simply seems quintessentially American, and capitalistic, and it doesn't have the same terrifying weight to it.”

“The Gun Show Loophole(tm) meme is a microcosm of the current state of affairs for the gun controllers. After recent and significant legislative and legal losses, it's desperation time and they have the pedal to the metal.

Gun Show Loophole sounds much more evil than, say the "Private transaction loophole." You have to keep in mind who the anti-gunner's target audience is. The impressionable fence sitters or those who already have an anti-gun agenda are much more affected by emotionalism.”

“"The "gun show loophole" is a distraction."

As well as a complete misnomer.”

“Chris Broughton is African-American. Go figure.”