“One moment it's a world-wide religion with the associated privileges, the next moment it's an independent state. The Vatican's ability to switch chameleon-like between the two has always been exploited to its advantage. The fact that this has been used to evade scrutiny on something as critical as child safety means that this dual status should be revoked.”
alterego55 on Jun 19, 2013 at 11:43:56
“The Mafia modeled its organization after the Catholic Church hierarchy. Secrecy, hoarding of treasure, local independence as long as you're feeding the kitty and tribal self-protection at all costs including the cost of well being of little children.”
“Rather than reproduce religion's tendency to encourage charitable works whilst ignoring the underlying problems I would hope that atheists would be keen to address the causes of deprivation. Why should people have to be reliant on soup kitchens?”
Papa K on Jun 14, 2013 at 09:43:01
“my thoughts exactly”
Scotland Dave on Jun 14, 2013 at 08:45:59
“In the UK and mainland Europe, most if not all of the wealthy countries have very good social programme's in place to accommodate this problem, unlike here in America where it is the ONLY western Industrialised country where a person can lose their home and go bankrupt because they became ill. Now there are still soup kitchens etc because the UK and the US government, thanks mainly to Reagan and Thatcher, closed down many if not all of our mental institutions and basically left these people to fend for themselves on the street. My wife who works in an ER ward at the local hospital has mental patients DAILY who have to stay in the ER because there is nowhere for these poor people to go and get properly taken care of.
When our government starts worrying about the people and not big corporation, perhaps other social programme's will fall into place as they have done in Europe where religion is no longer the force it once was.”
“"I was blown away to find out that British politicians do not bring up their religion as a political topic because of the taboo nature of doing so"
Similarly, I was very surprised to discover how religious Americans are a few years ago. Here in the UK it's considered distasteful and immodest to go around trumpeting your religion. It made me realise how different the two societies are despite the superficial similarities. Vive la difference (as far as this particular subject is concerned).”
Zanti on Jun 24, 2007 at 11:25:35
“I agree that the UK has a much better idea, but I think the American media exaggerates the reality a bit. It's kind of like the amount of violence shown in our movies--our streets aren't really like that, even on the worst day. I've yet to see a helicopter crash into an office building following a shoot-out with a taxicab.
Similarly, religion isn't as front and center as NBC, et al. would have us think. It's just that the media can't help milking the "faith vs. reason" cliche. Because otherwise they'd have to report actual news, and that goes against the bottom line. Americans are entertainment-addled. Don't give us facts, give us drama! Our national I.Q. drops five points an hour anymore.”