“What you fail to see is the big picture. If the GOP endorsed a national health care system (and not the insurance companies) many of the extra costs of start up would not be required.
Companies already seek a 'group' to lower they costs and have in this last decade increased the employee portion of payment. They don't want to have to provide health care to employees any more than employees want them to bully them through it.
However, the GOP/Tea has done a fine job of creating an atmosphere of fear and determination to not endorse anything by this president. (Voted into office TWICE) They want everything their way or no way. While they live in their religious past, America is not living that way and generally is religious but very progressive.
So yes you do have extra costs to get this kick started. And the Democrats/Senate whoever you are labling will except it because of it's over-all value to America.
If GOP/Tea Politicians paid for their own health care they'd LOVE the UHC!
It's time to make America suburb again.
[Democrats did not FORCE this bill through-it was voted on and they are NOT exempting themselves] Fox and friends has is WRONG-WRONG-WRONG!
...if you reply you are required to explain in detail how the Senate (which includes GOP members) and Democrats are "exempting" themselves from it - Or don't reply.”
CryingOut on Sep 30, 2013 at 16:03:10
“This commentor has not provided anything to explain the 'exempting' factor he outlined. No further conversation will be entertained.”
“# Americans have been in a long term battle with employers over health care coverage. Being 'let go' when you start to age out or creating 'part time' work hours all in an effort to avoid putting dollars to their employees coverage! It was only ever a tool to them to hire 'hot shots' and it worked. Fairly I must mention the high cost to the employer to run their HR services for healthcare.
What no one seems to be talking about is that with the new ACA run by the federal government employees will find that they no longer need to be bullied by employors, and live in constant fear of being let go! Coverage costs will be more contained.
Employors will likely be delighted when they find that maintaining a department for health care is no longer a major expense to them. Their business passion for earnings will no longer have that anchor around their necks. Perhaps in a few years will see a complete sigh of relief! And business managers can do what they do best-seek profits.
What the GOP/Tea party is fighting for is the loss of HUGE profits the insurance company's will no longer have a grip on! One can only imagine what the GOP is getting from these companys in promises? Why is it that many conservatives support them in this when they also would be digging deep into their pockets for the sake of profits for someone else?”
ThatIsJustGreat on Sep 29, 2013 at 09:12:21
“What you fail to realize is that the entire cost of going to the exchanges is born by the employee. Which means a huge pay cut for them. Unless an employer steps up and gives them, as part of their compensation package, the $$ to go into the exhanges. The GOP and Tea Parties are fighting to keep Americans from having to dig deeper into their own pockets. Now, explain to me why it's OK that the Senate, that Democrats forced this bill through that exempted themselves from it?”
“Should we trust what's happening? Is it at all possible that they will become Trogan Horses to further decimate our culture? I don't trust these outliers. Unless they completely retire to play with their grand kids they need to be watched very carefully!”
“And the Right isn't? The right that in the name of 'God' and 'Country' only want to gain all power so they can oppress all else not made in their image? You mean the Right that has more guns than one could possible need to take deer? You mean the Right that wants to take away others rights and tell women how to conduct themselves and accept rape and pillaging? I really, really, really disagree with you. The Right are the bullies...and God help us they can't reflect on any harmful choices they make...because when they look in a mirror they see perfection. They are not females, they are not gay, they are not destitute or black or brown. God created all types...not accepting that creation is bullying!”
“I disagree with your argument! Not one thing you site is valid and you could not actually prove any of it. You need to look beyond the rhetoric of FOX, et al and study outside of their brainwashing techniques. Hatred for our President is limited to a small populace because he is a symbol of their own gradual decline in relevancy. The old, white, religious, rural demographics are all in decline and they know it and are terrified about it. The so called 'old America' and its ideologies are dying out and this forward looking President [elected twice] is the antithesis of this!”
“It's clear that you hate the President. Did you bunk with Obama in college? How do you know he "worshiped" Hitler? Everything you say, and every way you say it is just filled with hate. As an American I fear YOU more than any boogy man you can conjure. Your antichrist leanings are showing.
This is not to say that Americans should turn a blind eye. We must of course stay current and study hard on who we place in power positions.
As to Obama's golf trip costing a million? A President of the United States is on the job every moment of their life. Let him smell the fresh air for a couple of hours. He doesn't have the luxury of kicking back like you do. Secret Service protection costs money. Get over it. All Presidents do the same thing. Look at all the time Bush spent at his Texas ranch.
It cost money to run a country. Get over it.
How about asking the GOPtea in Congress to stop taking so much time off, wasting our money and do something for ALL AMERICANS. Remember, Obama was elected in spite of the shenanigans by the GOPtea. Old people are not targets and revere his actions. We want him to lead. He won the election TWICE......So, get over it.”
ride2sun2 on Apr 21, 2013 at 08:37:01
“You assume too much.. There is proof that is was a member of Marxist groups in college. I don't hate him.. HE hates America. HE doesn't respect the constitution. HE wants to get rid of it. IF he wants to live under socialism.. He should live elsewhere.. we are not that kind of a government..
HE is actually the first president to come in at 9 and check out at 5.. Look it up.. HE takes the most vacations.. and he wasn't working when he took his golf trip.. IF he can't afford it on his own he shouldn't take it.. OUR governer refuses to take a wage till he gets the unemployment down to under 5%. IT is not JUST OBAMA.. it's all of them.. they all need to watch their spending.. but he is the one that keeps saying it's everyone else's fault.”
“Well I don't hate the Constitution no matter how you perceive my comments.
My family fought during the inception of the Constitution, WW1, WW2, Korea and Viet Nam and Police Services. Those that arm themselves outside of our Police and Military in the guise of protecting our nation have no validity. If they truly want to protect America they will come out of their bunkers and lobby for growth within our borders. To make America great again. They will want to pay more tax so we can improve and grow. They will ask for cleaner power sources and refuse pollution. They will protect ALL Americans against hate and protect the weak, not take from them.
The Gop/Tea resists everything our President is attempting. ....If they weren't in the pockets of huge lobbyists along with screaming non-existent bible verses maybe we could have the wondrous nation some of us remember. Freedom is a great gift. It should not be sullied by greed and hate. Do not align Hitler with Obama. This is my President and I refuse your negative assignation.”
ride2sun2 on Apr 18, 2013 at 08:57:04
“First of all.. I didn't align Obama with Hitler although he worshiped him in college and is a marxist... If we have a leader now or down the road that is like someone like Hitler.. and their could be at one point.. we need to be able to protect ourselves.. that is what the second amendement is for and states.. We can't depend on our government to do that because they may end out being the very ones against us at one point.. as in China or Russia..
The government has plenty of money.. THEY waste it.. Obama's famous golf trip cost the taxpayers 1 million dollars.. he and his wife only made 600+ thousand this year so don't say he paid for it himself.. You can also check the spending on the White house website if you care to. They waste so much. Until they get that under control.. until they put themselves in check they don't need one more dime.. They don't, Rep.. or Dem.. Independent.. all of them.. spend far too much on themselves and wasteful things.. LIKE illegals.. like people who don't WANT to work.. not people who can't find a job.. people who don't want to buy their own food.. Why does Obama.. YOUR PRESIDENT target the old people.. because they didn't vote for him..”
“Well it's not a dangerous faction waiting to take over the Government of the United States. It was intended to PROTECT America against war faring invaders. And before someone rants on about Obama wanting to take away guns....really? People keep Crying Out to do something...anything to stop the carnage!”
“OK. Here's the thing: Want your guns? Don't care who has them or how they are gotten? The Constitution enables your right to bear them. You are right! However, now that our "militia" is well armed I say you now must actually be a militia. Ya gotta show up for boot camp, 'gotta march and drill every day. Now don't tell me your beer gut is too big to march in the heat of August. Great soldiers don't complain they do their duty. Kids have a game, boss has a deadline...too bad. You are a well armed militia and you 'gotta start acting like one. Next stop, Korea. Oh, I know you were there before but it's time to go back. Your grandkid was just given your old 22 varmit gun. Yeah, she's 'gotta drill and serve too. Hey, personally I'd rather leave all the serving up to the pros and those hero's that want to serve. But, after all the Constition must be protected. And we all know there's bad players home & abroad. You'll get your notice soon. But, then I know you'll be 'the man' and just show up.”
Greg 135 on Apr 18, 2013 at 06:22:19
masontn on Apr 18, 2013 at 06:20:24
“Go away Cry baby”
ride2sun2 on Apr 18, 2013 at 06:17:30
“Why do you hate what has so rightfully given you all of your freedoms? Do you not know the difference between us and other countries? Do you not understand that other countries, one day could try and take us over or worse yet, one day we could end out with a leader like Hitler who would try? This is not a joke.. We need to prosecute these criminals.. we need to give people the right to do something about family members who have mental illnesses, we even need to take a lot of people off of all these drugs that state " may cause suicidal and depressive tendancies" But Our constitution is what protects us like no other country.. Why do you think so many want to get in here? Why do you think so many run from their own country? I think Obama should stop ignoring the real issue.. like the economy and putting people to work.. by hiding behind things like this that it is obvious by all the polls that only 4% of Americans actually care about.. HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO WORK..”
keithpeterbrown on Apr 18, 2013 at 06:15:17
“You seem to have very little understanding of what a militia actually is.”
“There...there.... give it a minute and it will all go away and you'll go back to being the delight you are. Just click your heels and keep saying....There's no place like FOX....There's no place like FOX.....There's............................”
“What are you like 8 years old? "PUT" into a subsidized facility? Those places are filled with years long waiting lists. And they are old and can be depressing. Remember Congress won't approve spending! What if there are no kids? What if a kid has their own problems? What if you had 5 children 2, 4, 6 and 8 years old; and a three bedroom apt? And worked 2 jobs? What if you have Lupus or are Bi-Polar? Will Mother and Father go without? YOU smurf12 are not the only example of human kind. Not everyone can take care of themselves, their family and aging, maybe sick, maybe real cranky parents. Most parents don't want to be a burden. If you intend to be the one giving a hand up....then you better start now. btw; I am still gagging on your "Should be put into" vernacular!”
smurf12 on Apr 14, 2013 at 06:53:32
“So they "deserve" their own home that they can't afford? ”
“*I DID PLAN-SO DID MANY OTHERS!!! .............Social Security is a last hope after our retirement funds were eaten away by $2,000 a month (per couple) health insurance costs. Not to mention high drug costs. Even Medicare doesn't allow for lowered cost on many common drugs. And if you find yourself in the 'Donut Hole'; tough luck. And it's not fair that your job 'lets you go' and you know it's because of your age. But you can't prove it. We were sold down the river when told that 401Ks were the way to get hundred's of thousand's into our retirement funds. That hard earned money was ripped out of our hands by greedy money changers; as if it was planned. I am angry that I am poor and might live another 30 yrs without money to take care of myself. I am angry with your implication that I didn't do enough ....because I did. I worked the OT, I learned more. I lived frugally. How dare you imply otherwise!”
bijouxbrwn on Apr 14, 2013 at 16:29:20
“Either your plan was effective or it was not effective.”