“The following is a list of the Gini coeffecients for South Africa, USA and Venezuela. While Venezuela is similar to the USA, which is nothing to brag about, it is better than South Africa. And with the economic power in private hands in S.A. economic justice will not change.
South Africa 63.1
South Africa 65
Micaela Lillard Browning on Dec 9, 2013 at 22:39:48
“Correct, but it hasn't been considerably reduced under the Chavez/Maduro regime. You've got to look at panel data, not a cross-section of one year. Trends plotted against nationalist regimes vs. free market regimes is what matters.”
“Your stupidity is as impressive as the depths of the vacuousness of your comments. There is no more more voting for Obama as one that did not vote for him bofore. You claim the title of "Sarge", yet your tongue holds not military honor.”
Sarge10601 on Dec 9, 2013 at 08:47:21
“I noticed in this whole entire exchange, you did not deny voting for Obama even once. You didn't even hint at it......so I was absolutely correct. And all you can do is flail around and call names. Sad.....goodby fool.”
“So the SA blacks received the right to vote and the white SA were allowed to keep all the wealth built at the expense of the masses. Since political power usually derives from economic wealth the system did not change and lead to even higher levels of inequality.
In Venezuela under Chavez poverty and illiteracy decreased and per capita GDP doubled. I'm not saying that it's perfect but it's better than having all the wealth go to a small group of people whose political/military power make change impossible.
I'm all for progressive taxation and redistribution of income, hwr, nothing was done to address the equality. That's why the transition from Apartheid was so smooth, the wealth was left in the hands of the elite.”
Micaela Lillard Browning on Dec 8, 2013 at 14:30:34
“And "keeping the wealth" is a different concept than "nationalizing resources". Nationalized resources can just as easily remain only in the hands of those in power. I think your argument is correct, but your terminology is wrong.”
Micaela Lillard Browning on Dec 8, 2013 at 14:28:22
“Per capita GDP tells you nothing about inequality. Income gains among the wealthiest 10% of the population increase the overall average GDP. Illiteracy is also just a proxy measure for inequality. You've got to look at the Gini coeffecient, a ratio of the % of the GDP distributed across income brackets.”
Dec 6, 2013 at 18:31:36
“Mandela and Castro had a lot in common. Both studied law, fought against a corrupt and oppressive government and were both targets of the United States. It was only in 2008 that Mandela was taken of the terrorist no-fly list, I'm sure Castro is still prominently on the list.”
julieintx on Dec 6, 2013 at 20:59:14
“Castro runs a corrupt and oppressive government.”
marco01 on Dec 6, 2013 at 20:09:50
“After Castro fought against a corrupt and oppressive government, he promptly created an oppressive government”
Knowledgeseeker on Dec 6, 2013 at 19:37:02
“also both of then went to prison for starting revolutions”
“He was a hero to his people. Unfortunately, during the transition he didn't nationalize his country's resources and now the inequality is greater than during apartheid. The wealthy were allowed to keep or transfer their wealth outside the country.
We should learn from his mistakes. Instead of punishing the financial institutions that profited from the financial crisis and keep profiting by the Fed's quantitative easy, we are punishing working class by foreclosing on homes and cutting pensions.”
Micaela Lillard Browning on Dec 6, 2013 at 14:06:55
“Nationalization of resources, at that time in history, would have effectively cut off the massive amounts of overseas foreign assistance and political support that was pouring into SA at the time from industrialized nations. Keep in mind, also, that nationalizing resources does not in and of itself lead to equality. Look at Venezuela. It has to be coupled with progressive taxation and strong redistribution of wealth.”
saunee300 on Dec 6, 2013 at 14:00:49
“There is no perfect system or government..and that's the truth.”
“Nonsense. They haven't been indoctrinated by the materialistic culture that you're not complete until you have all this trash. Let's not forget that you also need a McMasion in a gated enclave and a new car every year.”
“I wish I had your optimism. Drone assasinations continue killing innocent women and children in our name. Spying on the public and prosecutions of whistleblowers is at an all time high.The monied 1% that groomed him early on will be repaid in the last 3 years. Remember the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which helped create the financial crisis and increase income equality, was also done by a Democrat President in his second term. Obama has always been captured by the 1%, that's how he was able to rise politically. It's not personal to Obama, it's a sad fact of our political system.
However, if he can conclude a peace agreement with Iran inspite of all the warmongering by both parties then he will not be a total loss.”
“How many bankers that caused the fraud has he prosecuted?
He campaigned on eliminating the carried interest rule, which contributes to the income inequality. What has he done to eliminate it? (Nothing!)
What has he done to strengthen unions, which will help to mitigate income inequality? (Nothing!)
What has he done to reduce the size of the MIC? (Nothing!)
What has he done to reduce the size of Big Brother? (Nothing!, he's increased it!)
The list goes on and on…………….
Just because he's a Democrat people like you give him a pass but, as Glen Ford said, Obama is the more effective evil. He is more a republican than a traditional Democrat and is now negotiating a trade deal, TPP, that is NAFTA on steroids.
Ignorance of the issues is not excuse for lacking "proof".”
mollysmomma on Dec 4, 2013 at 21:37:11
“President Obama has three years left...i think he is already becoming more progressive...we will see more accomplishments for the progressives who support him in these last three years.”
“'Defining Challenge Of Our Time'
And Obama has done nothing to meet the challenge. If anything he's continued policies that led to the income inequality. It's not surprising considering the who groomed and backed him in his rise to power.”
mollysmomma on Dec 4, 2013 at 12:55:08
“how did the President do what you are claiming? don't make claims like that without proof.”
“Not really. The Germans have kept wages low in an effort to implement "beggar thy neighbor" policies, which have worked quite well for them but not so well for other EU members.
Raising taxes on the 1% does help fund necessary government programs and decrease the inequality. There is no reason, other than political influence, that hedge fund managers who make a billion dollars should only pay a maximum of 15%. Unfortunately, it seems that the notion that the government and its laws were designed for the benefit of all the people has become passé. Now, corporations and special interests rule, regardless of the impact on the public.”
“"….government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.” -Abe Lincoln
Unfortunately, he was wrong. The government for the people has perished and has transformed into a government of/for/by corporations and special interests. Materialism and cowardice has infected the thinking of most politicians.”
Dec 2, 2013 at 16:31:09
“That is exactly right. Why not have more doctors, especially general practitioners. Increase the number of medical schools, subsidize the education and remove the barriers to foreign doctors getting licensed.
Unfortunately, it's all about money. U.S. doctor's incomes are among the highest in the industrialized nations because the medical profession purposely limits the number of seats in medical schools to keep the salaries high. We have an overabundance of lawyers, the same could be true of doctors if it wasn't for the greed factor.”
Nov 29, 2013 at 12:31:55
“The difference between Stone's and Damon's comments about Obama and those of Mamet's is that Stone and Damon believe that Obama has abandoned his liberal campaign promises and has in most respects continued the Bush policies. Mamet, however, has transformed into a right-wing zealot and, as most right-wing zealots, every opinion other than his will lead to anarchy, socialism and Marxism. Frankly, I think the real concern is the weakening of the current 1%'s power structure, which Mamet is surely a part of.”
“Debate? It's more like scripted Kabuki. It's time to return control of the debate to the League of Women Voters. They withdrew from sponsorship of the debates to protest of the major party candidates attempting to dictate nearly every aspect of how the debates were conducted. It really is just one party (the corporate/special interest party) with two corrupted wings.”
“I always thought it was the puppet master making sure the puppet didn't make any mistakes. I agree that it was the most strangest thing that the President of the U.S. could not testify by himself. Maybe it's not so surprising since now he spends his time finger-painting.”
“That was a non-answer by Chomsky. He skips over addressing why building 7 collapsed (as in a controlled demolition). His response is that schools of engineering haven't investigated so there is nothing to it. I'm a big fan of Chomsky but this is light weight stuff.
He picks a straw man argument that it wasn't the Bush administration. Well, the questioner didn't claim that it was, he made a point on building 7.
Chomsky says that the Bush administration didn't blame Saddam but rather blamed the Saudis. Nonsense, the first think many in the Bush administration said was that it was Iraq and we should attack them. I'll bet that a significant % of the public, if questioned, believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11 mainly due to the Bush propaganda. I remember the father of a man who died in 9/11 had the Marines put his son's name on a bomb being dropped in Bagdad. When he learned truth, the father was stunned and felt betrayed by the government and it's propaganda and felt remorse at his mistaken revenge and killing innocents.
I personally don't think it was Bush but there are many unanswered questions that the government doesn't want raised. Bush didn't want a Congressional investigation and only finally agreed after the 9/11 widows forced him to. Then he appointed a political hack, Zelikow, to control the investigation.
Governments don't want the truth to get our not on 9/11, the Kenedy assasination or the USS Liberty.”
robbor on Nov 26, 2013 at 23:35:57
“always found it extremely odd that bush and cheney testified before the 9-11 committee hand in hand, off the record. what was all that about?”
42dude on Nov 26, 2013 at 21:56:34
“Why? I would guess those other two big buildings falling had something to do with the collapse of building 7.”
LeftRight on Nov 26, 2013 at 21:50:02
“Wow.... In other words, you don't have the first teeny tiny clue what you're talking about. The fact of the matter is that WTC7 no more fell like a controlled demo than YOU did!”
midtown on Nov 26, 2013 at 21:49:35
“This proves to me that Chomsky is teaching past his end date.”