“As to an unequal fight
That is Hamas' fault - it started the fight. It uses asymmetric tactics of suicide bombers and human shields. It's to blame for that. In any event, the casualty rate does not indicate guilt in this conflict anymore that it does in Afghanistan. In World War II, far more Germans dies than British. Does that make Britain guilty for the war?”
“The core issue in the conflict is not "settlements" nor "occupation" nor even land. After all Israel is the size of new Jersey. The Arab world controls more land than the USA. And Jordan, which is 78% of Balfour Mandate Palestine, alone is four times the size of Israel.
The core issue remains Arab rejection of a permanent Israel, no matter how small, no matter what its boundaries. It is the one thing on which Fatah and Hamas agree. It is in that direction, that Arafat and Abbas have rejected workable solutions. It is because of that that Abbas is seeking unilateral statehood, after which he will accelerate the conflict.”
“As to poverty in Gaza: that is very much a function of the Hamas government, which is scarcely less corrupt than its West Bank cousin, the Palestinian Authority. There are malls, luxury hotels, country clubs in Gaza peopled by those Hamas functionaries that can crema off UNWRA money. Moreover, as shown by the current conflict, Hamas has no shortage of weapons, long range missiles. Its primary goal remains the destruction of israel, and it would be happy to sacrifice all the residents of Gaza in that quest.”
“As for 1948: the Arab world rejected a two-state solution and six Arab armies invaded the tiny Jewish state, vowing in the woprds of the Mufti of Jerusalem, to complete Hitler's Holocaust. They failed.
In the aftermath of that conflict there were TWO sets of refugees. Israel uplifted all the Jewish refugees from Arab countries. They came to Israel penniless, but looked forward. Their descendants are more than half of all Israelis.
In contrast, the Arab world kept a similar number of Arab refugees, and all their descendants stateless - even when Egypt controlled Gaza and Jordan controlled the West Bank. They still do. This is especially hypocritical as the Arab world started the wars that led to BOTH refugee issues. Compare this population exchange to the ten times larger one between India and Pakistan (about 12 million) in 1947/48 - neither side keeps the refugees, let alone their descendants stateless.”
“What sort of blockade is this? Israel is providing food, water, fuel, even as the rockets from Gaza hit Israel. It is still treating Gazans in its hospitals. Given Hamas' goal of destroying Israel and its delight in killing civilians on both sides, would you not be wary about letting it imprt all the long range missiles it would spend all its money on?
Why don't you ask Egypt why it doesn't use its border with Gaza to provide all the food? Why does it still restrict gazans entry into Egypt - this makes a mockery of the new Egyptian President's sympathy for Gazans.”
“You ignored the reason for Israel's offensive: about 120 rockets hit southern Israel in the three days BEFORE Israel targeted the head of Hamas' military wing. That upsurge kept a million Israelis close to bomb shelters, and made life in the south impossible. Instead of castigating Israel, why not ask about Hamas' motivation? The fighting is a very convenient distraction for Hamas' sponsor Iran, and for Syria.
A majority of those killed in Gaza have been militants, which says something for Israel's attempts to limit civilian casualties while ending rocket strikes emanating from homes, schools, and hospitals. Certainly this compares favorably to Afghanistan - let alone Libya or Syria.”
“David Harris is right! Compare how Israel uplifted all the Jewish refugees from Arab lands, with 64 years of cynical manipulation of a similar number of Arab refugees. More than half of all Israelis are descended from the JEWISH REFUGEES FROM ARAB LANDS.
The Jewish refugees looked forward and rebuilt their lives. They looked past 1400 years of oppression and dhimmi status. They got no UN aid, unlike the billions wasted by UNWRA. Arab manipulation of this issue is especially hypocritical, as the Arab world started the wars that led to BOTH refugee issues.”
Sam Bark on Jul 26, 2012 at 02:53:24
“Dorn L - could not have said it better myself... F&F”
Andre De Angelis on Jul 12, 2012 at 02:59:59
“>> More than half of all Israelis are descended from the JEWISH REFUGEES FROM ARAB LANDS.
And most arrived in Israel of their own volition - to make Alyah. Many were lured to Israel under promises of a better life only to be explooited for cheap labor.
>> Arab manipulation of this issue is especially hypocritical, as the Arab world started the wars that led to BOTH refugee issues.
ISrale bgan creating refugees 5 months before the war of independence. Israel expelled 300,000 of them before a single Arab army set foot in Palestine.”