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Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 14:23:08 in Black Voices

“English isn't her third language, Ebonics is.
Perhaps English will be her fourth language.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 14:19:23 in Black Voices

“We are talking about a far greater level, apples and oranges. What I don't understand is why people are applauding some lump for getting of bed to go to court after obviously refusing any preparation.”

havbrush on Jun 29, 2013 at 14:50:51

“Why call he a lump? She's holding her own as English is not her native tongue. In fact, it's her third language, Spanish and Creole being the other two languages she speaks. Don't know how well her critiques would hold up to hours and hours of questions meant to humiliate her and make her look bad. Wonder how good that lawyer would do if he had to question her in his third language.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 14:16:40 in Black Voices

“Get real, there is always a "standard" for what you want to attain in life. True, if she wants to sit on her butt her entire life and do nothing, she has attained that standard.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 14:14:13 in Black Voices

“Who even says she had a disability? I have a nephew has a genuine disability--autism--but I don't consider it such. He tries very hard, and I push him to try hard. I get the feeling that nobody has pushed Rachel Jeantel in her entire life. So now if someone does, she gets all po'd.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 13:53:00 in Black Voices

“I believe the dispatcher asked "Are you following him?" to which Zimmerman replied, "Yes". The dispatcher then said, "We don't need you to do that". If that is an order it's a pretty weak one.
I see your point about the pursuit, but also learned something very interesting on CNN last night from a former cop. Simply following someone and disregarding the gun, one would not necessarily be in a mode which would be one of "defense". It might simply be following someone and waiting for the Police. It is once the attack happens one way or another that the rules of retreat or "hold your ground" may come into effect. Obviously, it would probably be prudent to retreat in some circumstances. But having a simple verbal exchange is not a big deal.
My opinion is that the actual retreat-stand-move forward theory would not happen until some act of violence occurred. Had Trayvon simple said, "Listen, I'm just walking home." He would probably be alive today.”

projustice on Jun 29, 2013 at 14:15:38

“Yes, you're right about the what ifs ref. Trayvon.  Also, had Zimmerman not advanced his ground and followed Trayvon, nothing would have occurred. 

Having untrained armed citizens attempting to become engaged in law enforcement activities is very dangerous. 

The law in FL was intended to protect people who were assaulted or approached through no fault of their own.  It was not intended to be used by people who become actively engaged in taking action or advance their ground toward a situation.

I do not believe the necessary elements are present to justify the 2nd degree murder charge in this case however, due to the reckless engagement and actions of Zimmerman, I do believe a manslaughter charge could have been justified had it been filed. 

I do not believe however that manslaughter is an option in this trial.  I think the only verdict options are "guilty" or "not guilty" on the murder two charge. 

There may have been an overreach for political reasons and that might prove to be a mistake. 

Unless there are things not yet public, I think a "not guilty" verdict will be the result.  Of course, the jury might be afraid of the ramifications of a "not guilty" verdict and become hung for vote "guilty."   Predictions are often wrong.  I'll just wait it out. ”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 13:38:40 in Black Voices

“You really don't get it. Sidney Poitier came to America and worked as a Dishwasher. At that point, he had no ambition to be an actor, nor did he have the skills. It was difficult for him to even speak moderately large words. It was by mere chance that Poitier saw an ad for "Actors wanted" and not knowing anything about it, applied. His language skills were so poor, his reading so bad, he was told to leave and "Go be a dishwasher". This made Poitier angry. How did he know he was a dishwasher? So he vowed to become a great actor, no matter what, and go back and prove it to the man who threw him out. And over time and hard work, he did. And he is one of the greatest actors (and with one of the most impressive voices) in History.
He did it because he was criticized, and then worked hard to get past that criticism. If people had pandered to him like this woman, he would not be the great man he is today.”

mamasilverhair on Jun 29, 2013 at 13:55:54

“Again. That you expect deman infact this girl live how you dictate is just wrong...Get over yourself...you are not that much. She has her own life to live... she is not this sidney guy you keep bringing up.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 13:12:41 in Black Voices

“It was obvious that the Prosecutor coached her to try and be polite the 2nd day, and to use the word "Sir". So what did she do? She spat out "YES, Sirrrrrrr". She gets the disdain she deserves.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 13:09:44 in Black Voices

“Keep laughing, you're the ones who are letting Muslims take over your cities. You think that is smart?”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 13:02:31 in Black Voices

“You make a very powerful point about the young in our society, Rachel Jeantel is just the visible posterchild--they are becoming hopelessly SHALLOW. They don't care about much but themselves. Their cell phones are their lives. Their literary power is that of a drained flashlight because of texting. Anything that gets in the way of their partying is a dreadful burden. A dead friend just means they have to go to the funeral (an hour out of their life).
Sad, sad, sad.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:58:58 in Black Voices

“How is that relief work going in Haiti? Tons of volunteers, boatloads of money coming in, and not much fixed. Looks like Haiti is the new America under Obama :)”

J-MAL on Jun 30, 2013 at 07:15:29

“ Hatti is coming along, And I like our President who's supported by the people who voted for him. A new America,no only a fair America.  J-MAL”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:50:55 in Black Voices

“I don't think she "did her best". Doing your best means sitting quietly, listening to the questions and answering them politely and truthfully. Not mumbling, rolling your eyes, and telling the court "no, no, I'm done" when told she has to come back the next day.”

mjune on Jun 29, 2013 at 13:54:16

“I agree that a person with good social training and a confident expectation of fair treatment would have leaned more in that direction, but that is not her background. Further, she is probably a special needs learner given the fact that she was not able to read or write, apparently.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:48:26 in Black Voices

“Well now we know we are on HuffPo, bring up Sarah Palin. What next, are you going to blame GWB for Trayvon's death?”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:45:08 in Black Voices

“For an educated engineer, you sure don't pick up on the fact that the problem was not that she couldn't read cursive--it was that she couldn't read the letter she had supposedly written in cursive.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:41:49 in Black Voices

“C'mon, even Jesse Jackson has criticized Ebonics for segregating blacks from mainstream society. And look at Sidney Poitier--he came to America knowing Zero English, and now speaks the language better than most native Americans.”

mamasilverhair on Jun 29, 2013 at 13:13:11

“How old is jesse?.... sidney?... this woman is 19... like to pick much?”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:39:29 in Black Voices

“BRAVO Dwayne! I so agree with you that the black community needs to start criticizing those who make it look bad. All minorities should not be labeled via a scant few. People react to criticisms and seek change, those who are entitled don't see a reason.
I really don't think people dislike Rachel Jeantel because of her looks, race, or weight---they dislike her for refusing to be better than she is, and that isn't a whole lot to ask.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:34:08 in Black Voices

“You state one good point about this trial; it is VERY important to use the power of concealed carry responsibly, it will certainly mean at least some legal troubles. This is not saying Zimmerman was not justified, but that one must be sure before pulling that trigger.
I do think most CCW carriers are very aware of these facts, however.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:31:31 in Black Voices

“What circumstances are those? Texting, tweeting, and talking on the phone all day? Girl should open a book once in awhile, and start watching the news.”

i n d e p e n d e n t on Jun 29, 2013 at 12:59:43

“Who knew that you are an expert on Rachel and her daily activities.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:30:07 in Black Voices

“One of Zimmerman's neighbors is a very articulate black man--but the media rarely interviews him for that very same reason.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:28:30 in Black Voices

“Natural, certainly you jest when you say it's all about being human, considering that the media, Sharpton, and even Obama made this racial from day one. The truth is we don't know that it was. We simply know that one man followed a young man, got his head smashed into a sidewalk and he defended himself with a gun, killing him. Without the racial aspect, nobody would even be talking about this.”

natural ip on Jun 29, 2013 at 18:02:45

“It's a bit of jest and me being naivé to certain truths about the world we live in, nevertheless I find your play at calling others bias when in your account of the events feels just the same. What is "simply" known is that Martin was killed by gunshot and Zimmerman had said gun. How the events played out that night is for the court/jury to decided. As for the racial aspect playing a part...Welcome to America!  ”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:23:12 in Black Voices

“Yes, I could do better, you could do better, almost anyone could. She may have set the low mark in testimony for a US trial. Can you name anyone worse?”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:21:39 in Black Voices

“If she's the best chance the Prosecution has, they should stop right now and give up.
Let's face it, if not for the media pushing the race card on the DA down in FL, this case would never have been prosecuted.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:13:10 in Black Voices

“Chandra, you just don't understand how you are letting this woman down. If everyone told her how ridiculous she was, she would change. Should our tolerance allow us to make it easy for the lazy to not learn or advance? Should that be readily accepted? Should we pay them for their ignorance to stay home and not work?
If we refuse to judge, then we are the ones who hold people down...by saying it's ok for them to do so.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:07:03 in Black Voices

“Well, we seem to be getting away from shame in our society. It is pretty shameful that a young woman who is a senior in HS cannot speak English understandably, and cannot read a letter she says she wrote. Ordinarily, shame would make one want to achieve these minor qualities. But now we seem to revel in people absurd behaviors and lack of intelligence.”
Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Rachel Jeantel Twitter Commentary: Olympian Lolo Jones Stirs Controversy With Criticism Of Teen

Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 12:00:58 in Black Voices

“Yes, but when one "fears for one's own life" we don't know the level of fear required. If someone hits you on the head with a hammer, the first time you might simply think "Wow, that hurts...", the second time "I think this guy is seriously trying to hurt me!" How many times would it take for you to decide you need to shoot or die?”

54-bos on Jun 29, 2013 at 13:44:43

“No, I agree. I always thought GZ was in actual fear for his life. I don't know if that fear was well-founded, but I wasn't the one on the ground getting my butt kicked. It's just tragic all around, didn't need to happen. Two people both over-reacted to the threat the other posed.”
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