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Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 18:38:44 in Politics

“Wow, finally a rightie admits the 2000 election was a total fraud!! W. still sends Jeb an extra-large gift basket every November.”
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 18:31:30 in Politics

“The main organization behind wingnuttr0ll blogging is New Media Strategies- this facebook link is through their site, and the code phrase is "Online Empowermen­t." NMS got smart and hid the page that advertises rates for 'disrupting' liberal blogs, or "redirecting" topics.


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=47351789675
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 18:13:34 in Politics

“Thanks cavegal- I wish you a very safe trip to Maryland. I'm very grateful to have representatives such as Barbara Mikulski, Ben Cardin, and Steny Hoyer. Hip, hip hooray! And Happy Thanksgiving.”
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 18:10:02 in Politics

“You have the right to say whatever you like- but rightie-tighties seem to have problems with being told what you're saying is just plain ridiculous. But keep going, Chicken Little. I WILL defend your right to spew your nihilistic, no solutions, only NO, dead-end speech. And remember, facts DO have a liberal bias...”
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 18:02:55 in Politics

“Here are some Maryland statistics on the state of health care, from Senator Ben Cardin. He is the Democratic Senator who had to be escorted from a town hall meeting by security, after the crowd threatened his life for his support of the Public Option. Anyone who thinks the system needs to stay the way it is, is either an insurance executive, brainwashed by Faux, or already on Medicare and doesn't give a crap about the millions of Americans without coverage:

Escalating health care costs threaten every American family. In 1996, the average cost of a health care policy for a Maryland family was approximately $6,000; in 2006 that cost had risen to nearly $12,000 and by 2016 the same insurance policy is expected to increase to almost $24,000 – a whopping 109 percent increase from 2006. By 2016, health care insurance premiums will consume 32.2 percent of projected Maryland median family income.

Middle-class Americans are particularly vulnerable. Today, health care costs are rising three times faster than wages, eating away the paychecks of millions of Americans. A stunning 72 million Americans are struggling to pay health care bills, and 62 percent of all bankruptcies in 2007 were linked to medical bills.”

Palemoon replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 19:34:23

“Excellent post and thanks for sharing those statistics. I agree, without any real reform, America will essentially turn into a two-class society with the middle class joining the poor.

The area in which I live is a city of only around 80,000 people. A rural city that's only here because of the military base. In this area, you got 3 choices. Work for the base, work for an industry that supports the base, or you end up in a job that guarantees that you stay poor your entire life. And it's probably because of the military base, but my small rural city is the third highest cost of living area in the state of Georgia. Only Atlanta and Savannah are higher. I watch young people around here and I don't know how they do it. Many families have kids living with them through the 20s. And for the kids that do have the urge to get out on their own at all costs, really aren't on their own as they are living 3 and 4 to a single apartment.

Anyways, we better get over the notion that community involvement is bad and that government aid is bad. Otherwise, we're going to have a large majority of this country growing up homeless, uneducated and starving in poverty.”

cavegal replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 18:07:22

“Very well said! I used to live in Maryland and will be on my way there first thing tomorrow morning to visit family for Thanksgiving.”
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 17:56:34 in Politics

“Probably shilling for both- while getting paid a few pennies per craptastic post, and missing his militia meeting.”

tnlcallen replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 18:07:30

“perhaps you should explain the "few pennies" remark, but first adjust your tin foil hat, it appears to be crooked”

CIA-FAN replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 18:01:20

“Careful, you will lose your liberal membership card. Liberals are suppose to believe in tolerance, free speech and compassion­...”
Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Dean: Dems 'In Deep Trouble' On Health Care, The Only Options Are A Bad Bill Or 2010 Losses

Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 17:51:15 in Politics

“Where are your solutions, righties? Don't have any- all you have is negativity, fear, and more negativity. I want to be a rightwinger, so I can covet my precious tax money, make sure there are guns for all, anytime, anywhere, protect every fetus (because before they become liberals or are actually born, we care), and offer nothing but tax-cuts, and abstinence education, when I'm not telling everyone that government doesn't work. Oh, and no Science. All you have to do is say "God Bless..." whatever, and you're in! And don't forget to fear- fear everything!”
Inhofe To Boxer: 'We Won, You Lost, Get A Life' (VIDEO)

Inhofe To Boxer: 'We Won, You Lost, Get A Life' (VIDEO)

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 20:41:36 in Politics

“Please post a link where Senator Boxer said she wants to control the weather on this planet. Is that what you nutters think the Global Warming debate is about?? Flat Earthers are great at presenting made-up fantasies with huge dollops of senseless hyberbole. Science-BOO!”
Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 20:32:24 in Politics

“Funny, how righties suddenly become obsessed with polls, when reality just won't do.”

Kalamama replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 20:36:03

“That's because it's all they have besides fox.

They are a permantly damaged party.”
Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 19:59:23 in Politics

“I would like to thank Senator Sanders for being one of the few in Congress actually representing The People who sent him to Washington, and the millions of Progressives who are cheering him on.”
Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 19:54:59 in Politics

“Our teabaggers are eager to pay higher and higher premiums to the insurance cartels. I say let them. Let the rest of us have the choice of a public option. We're already paying for Iraq's health care, so why isn't that "Socialism" good enough for the taxpayers footing that bill?

Oh, and I would like to see the teabagging coalition make a pledge that they will renounce all "Socialist" public health care programs such as Medicare, Veteran's Care, and Social Security benefits.”
Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back On Public Option

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 19:50:11 in Politics

“I agree with you 100% Fog. Well-put. When do the "little guys" win one? But more importantly, why are the rethugs suddenly against competition? Competition is the cornerstone of the Free Market ideal they hold so sacrosanct. One thing the health care debate has made crystal clear is that the majority of Congress has been bought by Big Business.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 13:07:12 in Politics

“Let's not change health care in this country at all then, and let 45,000 Americans die every year, due to lack of coverage. Pre-existing conditions? Just part of the Free Market, eh? Health Insurance Cartels? We love em'! Pharmaceutical companies increasing drug prices every six months; Capitalism at its best!!

Got any alternatives, other than spewing every negative-nelly scenario that can be copied from Faux Noise sites? The Chicken Little routine is getting really old.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:58:04 in Politics

“Every country has debt, period. The debt incurred by any public option is offset by having healthier, happier populations. Your monicker is so very appropriate. Every comment is just cold, thoughtless and heartless. Actually, things that slither probably have more empathy than you.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:51:23 in Politics

“If America was actually run according to neoCon economic and social conservative ideals, we would look like East Germany, circa 1970s. Thank God for the "Godless liberals" who are here to give a hoot about the poor and disenfranchised.

If you pay your credit card bills on time, every time, and STILL have your interest rates jacked up to 30% overnight, that's just the free market for you, according to our kind-hearted righties. What a load of garbage.

Want to know why there are fewer of you nutters out there today? Because a lot of them have been humbled by this economic crisis, and have suddenly found some empathy- for themselves at least.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:37:28 in Politics

“Excellent point T4. As someone who has lived and worked in Socialist countries, I can tell you people are happy with their public health care systems. If their govts. tried taking them away, to replace them with private insurance monopolies/cartels, there would be riots all over Europe and Scandinavia.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:34:35 in Politics

“Progressives pay taxes too, and our taxes are funding public health care for Iraq and every other country that receives funds from America. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us.

I find solace in knowing whatever wingnut groups are paying you tr0lz to spew beckazoid talking points are getting hosed.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:26:28 in Politics

“He's Droopy the dawg. To the letter.”
Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 12:24:32 in Politics

“Lieberman is feeding on the nihilism of the rightwing obstructionists. All lieing, skeeving Lieberman-clones should be forced to disclose every penny they've received from the health insurance cartels, and pharmaceutical industry. This includes Lincoln, Landreu and Nelson. Let the American people see where the "opposition" is really coming from.

Corporate welfare: Plenty to go around. Health care reform to benefit ordinary Americans: A travesty to the conservati­ve/rightwi­ng black-hearted faction. These people literally make me sick. We need reform of our entire political system- 5 political hacks shouldn't have the power to bulldoze over the will of the majority of Congress and the American people.”

JPFL replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:28:32

“He's doing what he's always done - play both sides against the middle for his own gain.”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:50:35 in Politics

“And Sarah Palin is going to mop the floor with Obama, and white people will never vote for a black candidate, and McCain will sweep Ohio and Florida and Pennsylvan­ia... We've had our fill of repugnant "prediktio­ns." Keep em' coming.”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:47:44 in Politics

“Sure, because that has NEVER happened in politics before. As someone who lived in Mississippi, no matter how they got it, the folks ravaged by hurricanes need the money. Of course that human-need element doesn't compute for someone like you, does it?”

FlyOnTheWall45 replied on Nov 21, 2009 at 21:32:42

“Would it kill the Senate the pass a rule that everything in their bill should have at least something to do with purpose of the bill?”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:45:30 in Politics

“Bad news for critical-t­hinking-ch­allenged miserable teabaggers. You lost! Again!”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:42:38 in Politics

“What do you pubes say about being reduced to a fringe-element of irrelevant cry-babies?”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:39:48 in Politics

“That was totally worth repeating. I'm so sick of the tax-evading, me, me, me whiners. I now refer to rightwingers as "Chicken Littles."”
Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 20:36:54 in Politics

“The Democrats keep allowing the rethugs to move the goal line. Why do they do this? The Dems allowed 72 hours before the vote was taken, so the pugs could "read the bill." They knew they would get not one pug vote no matter what they did, but they altered legislation and made numbskull concessions anyway. I am ecstatic over the vote tonite, but it happened despite the Dem leadership's attempts at faux-bipar­tisanship. You can't bargain with obstructionist nihilists.”
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