“Your consciousness is very fragile and canot even survive a blow o the head or sleep. Science has shown how each part of the brain works and it doesn't work the way you think that it does. Brain function is both chemical and electrical and one does not work without the other.”
“There's another side to this: as an atheist, I accept that death is as much a part of life as birth. I know that death is always imminent for everyone. Of course we grieve. Of course we fear death. There is no angst over whether the dear departed is going to a heaven or hell. What we treasure is the time we spent with them, and the memories we have. And we know when we bring a child into the world that we will worry for them every day for the rest of our, or their, lives. Life is so more precious when it's everything.”
ThankGodhesgone on Feb 22, 2012 at 04:42:55
“I think both believers and non believers can easily agree with your sentiment. Not all believers accept Heaven and Hell. I do not. I think we make our own Heaven of Hell on Earth.”
HarleyOpenRoad on Feb 22, 2012 at 00:16:28
“Life becomes a pure joy when you realize the relationships you form here will exist forever.
In my opinion, your consciousness is eternal, pure energy, which even science acknowledges cannot be destroyed.”
“That was my first impression, too, that not only were the quotes cherry-picked, but that the scientists featured were cherry-picked as well. Naturally, there were famous and prominent scientists, but it struck me that in modern times well over 70% of all scientists are atheists, and knowing other quotes of the scientists mentioned I know that they were often more adamant in their atheistic leanings.”
“I'm a reliable plumber. I doubt you could afford the travel time. :-)
I'm also a pretty good painter and wired my own house from scratch about 36 years ago.”
llisa on Dec 13, 2011 at 01:58:01
“Wish you could refer me to someone just like you in my neck of the woods. I know a great carpet layer and recommend him to everyone. I had a great carpenter and woodworker who redid our kitchen and built us an oak staircase inside and a beautiful two-story deck outside (after I went through two other guys who just kept not showing up). But he moved.
Recently had an electrician tell me he can't figure out why we suddenly have no electricity outside, that will be $100 thank you.”
May 29, 2011 at 11:35:08
“When my daughter was born the same way about 35 years ago it was also deemed a miracle in the local newspaper. But the definition of miracle can be something that is "2. A highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or accomplishment" We were told that the odds of both mother and child surviving past the first two months has odds of about 1 in five hundred million.”
May 29, 2011 at 11:31:46
“Those particular doctors may have 'never seen anything like it,' but it's not unknown. My own daughter was 'born' that way. After a rocky, 8-month pregnancy, a cesarean birth revealed that she was carried outside the uterus, probably from a ruptured fallopian tube. She's now mid-thirties with a four-year-old son of her own. I've read of other cases as well.”
voting4BO on May 29, 2011 at 17:10:04
“I work in a NICU and have seen a case similar to that during my career, unfortunately the baby died after 2 weeks from complications of prematurity.
Glad to hear your situation had a positive outcome!!!!”
“What causes a hurricane? Pat Robertson might say acceptance of gays and lesbians. A meteorologist might refer to natural conditions. I'm going with the meteorologist. The word "cause" in the Kalaam does not need to refer to a sentient being.
And if there were a god, how would we know? Simple. We'd listen to whoever had the best telepathic skills and heard its voice. Well, some people would. I'm not buying it. If you heard Napoleon's voice you'd be getting professional help and a prescription. If you hear the voice of a god you get to wear a funny suit and speak from a lectern.”
“// Because all know physical processes are predictable based on past events and the brain which is responsible for all thought is physical, then all thought and emotion are determined purely and predictably by past events.//
No human has that kind of reasoning ability. No human knows all past events. Even if they were "predicted,' whatever that means, no human would know it. Implications 3 and 4 aren't really false, But so what? What is the limit on thought? You've got too many eggs in your basket - thought being a by-product of other physical processes that took billions of years to present. You presume a "spiritual" energy and yet I know of no such thing.”
CJB59 on Nov 9, 2012 at 11:09:36
“I don't understand most of your critique. One does not need reasoning ability this is about what is behind ones reasoning. The predictability of thought simply says that Past events are the cause while present thought is the effect with no room for the self (me) to make a choice, be creative or be inspiration beyond ones experience.
If you believe 3 and 4 are true then you are correct for you there would be no spiritual realm, and certainly no God. I believe that "I" do have choices that are noted ordained. I could choose to be an atheist, in fact I did for a long time, bit now I know God is real in my life.. You make your choices and I'll make mine. I won't judge yours and I hope you won't judge mine.”
“To my earlier comment, I'd like to add that there is a marked difference between mythmaking and historical recording. The mythmakers have an agenda, and it does not depend on accuracy of information. That the life of Jesus was recorded so long afterwards by people who had never even been to where Jesus supposedly preached is an important fact - they were free to describe him as they wished. Was Paul from Tarsus? He never said so, but Acts does, and Acts is very late and considered by scholars to be very inaccurate. And yet I have entire books written about Paul, based on the meager information in the Bible.”
shawnie5 on Jul 10, 2012 at 08:05:14
“"That the life of Jesus was recorded so long afterwards by people who had never even been to where Jesus supposedly preached is an important fact"
That is not a fact. It is an assumption, and a very faulty one at that.”
“There is little reason to think that Jesus is more than a mythical character. Paul, supposedly writing about thirty years after Jesus, describes a Jesus in one of the supposed planes above the earth for the most part. Mark bases his writing on Old Testament snippets and storylines copied from Homer. The other gospel writers copy Mark, changing the story as befits their particular leanings, such as whether they are Pauline or Petrine in their thinking. Further, Jesus' birth dates etc. are never recorded and could reflect a figure from much earlier. The Jesus Movement was an offshoot of the Kingdom Movements. If a real Jesus ever lived, it would be completely impossible to separate the man from the myth, which was still being written many centuries later. Flavius Josephus wrote of about five or more Jesuses. Aside from the obvious interpolation, he's not a good source.”
“If there were a succinct definition of a cult, then virtually all religions would be one. However, when one pursues various lists of cult behavior, Mormonism not only fits every item on the list, but strongly. Their secretive behaviors and very private practices make them very different from the practices of the Christian religions. (I don't consider them a Christian religion because they follow Joe Smith, not Jesus, and Jesus is granted little status among Mormons, being equal to his brother Satan, but good.)”
“There are specific lines in Paul's letters that point to a non-earthly Jesus. If there was actually a physical Jesus, no one wrote about him in the early years. It was decades later before Mark introduces us to a fictional tale of a physical Jesus.
There may have been a "real" Jesus, but he wouldn't have been the one you're reading about in the Bible.
In Bart Ehrman's book, "Forged," he tells us that forgery was just as damnable as it is now, and yes, using someone else's name to get yourself read is forgery.”
“Progressive revelation was not a new idea in Baha'u'llah's time. The problem with the progression is that a couple of its characters probably didn't exist at all. The Torah puts Moses in a time before the Jews had collected into a tribe and before they had or used any form of writing. The Exodus is clearly a fictional origin story and the evidence says the opposite of what it should have said.
Jesus was apparently a fictional character, also, though subsequent chroniclers were able to flesh him out, as it were. No sense going into the series of Buddhas or the multiple gods of other religions. Baha'i is nice as religions go, but mostly because it's harmless.”
“I'm with Trevand on this one. Paul, the earliest NT writer, believed in a Jesus who never walked the earth, not yet, anyway. And Mark concocted a fictional tale that was then copied by others as Jesus morphed into a human figure. The other canonical gospel writers copied "Mark" at much later dates and edited to make the story what they wanted it to be. And nearly half of Paul's letters are forgeries - not a good start.”
hp blogger John Backman on Apr 14, 2012 at 15:03:17
“From what I've read, Herkv, a lot of what you say is accurate. I'm not sure about the following, though: how do you (how does anyone) know for sure that Jesus never walked the earth? Also, I think "forgeries" is too strong a word. Apparently it was normal in ancient times for writers to ascribe authorship of a letter, etc., to the teachers they followed.”
“You have to get them while they're young and impressionable, or you won't get them at all. Teaching small children to communicate with non-existent beings is teaching them to be as barking mad as you are.”
22Keys on Mar 5, 2012 at 12:20:57
“Although it is less common, some people accept religion as adults.”
“I won't give you hell, Roy, but I'd like to point out that sometimes it's a bit difficult to get a handle on your Jesus - on the one hand he has you turning the other cheek, but on the other hand he has you selling your garment to buy a sword.
And although the message of the putative Jesus seems to be to love everybody, that doesn't seem to have been the case throughout Christian history. The shoddy side of Christianity is not a new thing. Jesus, were he a real person, would have been a Jew, and it would be well to remember the story of the hated Samaritan, the only one who would help an injured man while his fellow Jews passed by him. There's true wisdom in that tale.”
Roy Merritt old car guy on Feb 13, 2012 at 08:48:54
“Oh I agree with you that down through the ages Christianity has been used to kill people and torture people. I have found that if I read my Bible and know what it says most of what you see in organized churches today is 180 degrees from what Jesus taught. As to selling your garment to buy a sword, Jesus told Peter put away your sword because he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. Faith is just that, faith, and it can not be forced on anybody. I agree with you on the Good Samaritan parable because most people do not realize how despised the Samaritans were by the Jews and for Jesus to point out that that despised Samaritan would help while the leaders of the church would not is a lesson for all.”
“Temple doesn't seem to be a good word to use for an atheist building, since it commonly denotes a place of worship. I can certainly understand why we might wish to have a competitive presence in evidence. Even Scientologists put up big buildings. Perhaps it's time we atheists move into the mainstream of society with something we can call our own. Libraries and universities are for everyone - an atheist center would be uniquely for the promotion of atheism.”
Vernon Gudger on Jan 26, 2012 at 11:23:59
“Atheism promotes itself, the only criteria is non-belief in deities, it's that simple!”