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Coming Soon to a Neighborhood Near You: Trigger-Happy Cops?
Commented Dec 30, 2009 at 21:37:59 in Politics
“Optics won't make a gun more accurate. If your gun is shooting 3 inch groups without optics, it's going to keep shooting 3 inch groups with an optic.
I'd say a sniper rifle can be anything from a falling block Sharps to an SR-25. It all depends on who is holding it and what they are using it for.”
I'd say a sniper rifle can be anything from a falling block Sharps to an SR-25. It all depends on who is holding it and what they are using it for.”
leeclayton replied on Dec 30, 2009 at 22:33:56
“Who said optics would make a gun more accurate?”
OdinsEye replied on Dec 30, 2009 at 22:15:33
“100% correct.”
Coming Soon to a Neighborhood Near You: Trigger-Happy Cops?
Commented Dec 30, 2009 at 20:20:29 in Politics
“"would someone please tell me what the hell's wrong, really, with licensing firearms and registering owners?"
On top of what others have said:
1. It discriminates against the poor who don't have the luxury of extra time, money, and gasoline to make the numerous trips required register a gun and get licensed. To get my concealed carry license, it was $200 and 8 hours of time. And that doesn't include the cost of gasoline and ammo. As a single, childless, upper middle class male, that was fairly easy for me. But if I were a single mother, making barely above minimum wage at the average service job where my hours are dictated by the whims of my employer, it may not be so easy.
2. Unless licensing is on a shall-issue basis, it can serve as a tool to discriminate against minorities and those who aren't politically connected. Since in my state, concealed carry licenses are issued on a shall-issue basis, my race and lack of donations to my local sheriff were not a factor in whether I actually got my license. However, if I lived in a may-issue state like California, those factors could be used to deny my application for a license, among other arbitrary criteria such as "a demonstrable need".”
On top of what others have said:
1. It discriminates against the poor who don't have the luxury of extra time, money, and gasoline to make the numerous trips required register a gun and get licensed. To get my concealed carry license, it was $200 and 8 hours of time. And that doesn't include the cost of gasoline and ammo. As a single, childless, upper middle class male, that was fairly easy for me. But if I were a single mother, making barely above minimum wage at the average service job where my hours are dictated by the whims of my employer, it may not be so easy.
2. Unless licensing is on a shall-issue basis, it can serve as a tool to discriminate against minorities and those who aren't politically connected. Since in my state, concealed carry licenses are issued on a shall-issue basis, my race and lack of donations to my local sheriff were not a factor in whether I actually got my license. However, if I lived in a may-issue state like California, those factors could be used to deny my application for a license, among other arbitrary criteria such as "a demonstrable need".”
NRA Bosses -- But Not Members -- Defend Policies That Help Arm Suspected Terrorists
Commented Dec 28, 2009 at 21:22:28 in Politics
“Considering the gun controllers constantly try to redefine "sporting purpose", I don't subscribe to the "sporting purpose" doctrine. Plus the Second Amendment wasn't written to protect sports equipment. It was written to protect fighting arms. So "sporting purpose" is irrelevant.
"The NRA and I parted company many years ago when it refused to support the restriction or ban on the so-called "cop killer," or teflon coated bullets."
Teflon coated bullets were proven to not be any deadlier than non-coated bullets. Bullets were coated with Teflon to protect the barrel of the gun. Not to make them any more dangerous. By the time the bullet hits its target, the Teflon coating is gone.”
"The NRA and I parted company many years ago when it refused to support the restriction or ban on the so-called "cop killer," or teflon coated bullets."
Teflon coated bullets were proven to not be any deadlier than non-coated bullets. Bullets were coated with Teflon to protect the barrel of the gun. Not to make them any more dangerous. By the time the bullet hits its target, the Teflon coating is gone.”
NRA Bosses -- But Not Members -- Defend Policies That Help Arm Suspected Terrorists
Commented Dec 28, 2009 at 15:35:12 in Politics
“"any gun, anywhere, any time"
A notion purely concocted by gun controllers as a scare tactic. The NRA has never taken such a position.
"Most Americans - including NRA members and gun owners - reject the NRA leadership's false choice between order and liberty.
We choose both."
Is that why you continue to support every gun ban in this country and propose more bans, including bans on the most popular, yet least abused firearms in this country? It seems like you will choose a false sense of order over liberty, every time.”
A notion purely concocted by gun controllers as a scare tactic. The NRA has never taken such a position.
"Most Americans - including NRA members and gun owners - reject the NRA leadership's false choice between order and liberty.
We choose both."
Is that why you continue to support every gun ban in this country and propose more bans, including bans on the most popular, yet least abused firearms in this country? It seems like you will choose a false sense of order over liberty, every time.”
Christmas Tree Shooting: Colorado Boy Accidentally Shoots Himself With Gun Left Under Christmas Tree
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 02:13:35 in Denver
“In other news, eople who own cars, and those who drive them, are injured or killed in car accidents at a higher rate than people who do not own cars.”
NRA Members For Reasonable Gun Restrictions
Commented Dec 13, 2009 at 22:54:36 in Politics
“If you want an extremist organization, look up GOA or JPFO. The NRA is fairly mainstream these days.”
Berettasskeeter replied on Dec 16, 2009 at 14:27:17
“And the only thing that makes them extremist is that they believe in the absolute Right, and do nothing towards marksmanship and training. JPFO (Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership) takes the stand that disarmament is ipsofacto proof of a government with ill intent towards its citizenry, ala Nazi Germany.
Semper fi”
Semper fi”
NRA Quietly Winning Battles For Looser Gun Laws
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 21:10:58 in Politics
“The government will need a lot smart bombs.
They couldn't drop enough on Iraq and it's total inhabited area is only about the size of Connecticut.”
They couldn't drop enough on Iraq and it's total inhabited area is only about the size of Connecticut.”
BlackJAC replied on Dec 14, 2009 at 18:40:48
“For ScottM1A: by that point, would the intended targets still be considered "American citizens" by the bombardier? Would they instead be considered "enemy combatants" and therefore exempt from all Constitutional rights per the Patriot Act? Remember how little sophistry it took to get the country music world to villify the Dixie Chicks? And that was just over an off-the-cuff comment at a concert.”
ScottM1A replied on Dec 14, 2009 at 12:34:27
“Yeah that'll be popular dropping nukes to take out American citizens. I'm gonna have to agree with Thirdpower's opinion of you.”
Thirdpower replied on Dec 13, 2009 at 18:49:18
“Yeah, let's start dropping those.
I D 10 t”
I D 10 t”
BlackJAC replied on Dec 13, 2009 at 18:24:44
“They also have that fun little device called the "B-83 thermonuclear warhead" that can take out an entire city rather efficiently. Still think that rifle's going to scare them?”
NRA Quietly Winning Battles For Looser Gun Laws
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 20:29:17 in Politics
“"Let's go ask a cop right now if they think someone like you should have the right to own an AK-47, a .50 caliber sniper rifle "
Most of the police officers I know own those weapons or some variant of them. They don't have a problem with people owning them. They do have a problem with who owns them. For example, they don't want criminals to own them.”
Most of the police officers I know own those weapons or some variant of them. They don't have a problem with people owning them. They do have a problem with who owns them. For example, they don't want criminals to own them.”
NRA Quietly Winning Battles For Looser Gun Laws
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 20:23:36 in Politics
“That's a lot of voodoo math to make a spotty claim at best.
Let's simplify it::
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Auto Fatalities per 100,000 Population for 2005: 14.72
National average of gun deaths per per 100,000 Population for the same year: 10.32
This is despite the number of guns and cars being fairlysimilar.”
Let's simplify it::
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Auto Fatalities per 100,000 Population for 2005: 14.72
National average of gun deaths per per 100,000 Population for the same year: 10.32
This is despite the number of guns and cars being fairlysimilar.”
NRA Members For Reasonable Gun Restrictions
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 16:51:10 in Politics
“"I thought we had a higher authority than a cop's discretion as to what was and wasn't Constitutional. "
Ultimately, all law comes down to the discretion of those who enforce it. Without enforcers, a law is essentially nonexistent.”
Ultimately, all law comes down to the discretion of those who enforce it. Without enforcers, a law is essentially nonexistent.”
Raymond Martinez, Times Square Shooting Suspect, Had Gun Dealers' Business Cards In His Pockets (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 02:57:20 in New York
“"Funny, but handgun violence in the UK isn't equal to ours. Wonder why?"
Because they banned handguns.”
Because they banned handguns.”
Gaps in Protection for Us and the President
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 14:19:02 in Politics
“Because if you keep dangerous people behind bars, you might actually help prevent criminal shootings, decrease the perceived need for more "gun control", and the Brady Campaign would lose it's raison d'etre.”
Donna Jackson Kills Intruder While On The Phone With 911 (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 18:58:36 in Home
“The intruder didn't call ahead of time to give Donna Jackson any warning so why does he deserve a courtesy he didn't give his would-be victim?”
Quinn Signs Tougher Gang Gun Law
Commented Dec 07, 2009 at 16:14:43 in Chicago
“"It would be more accurate to say "no guns for criminals""
I think it could go either way, considering DW has already equated "gang member" with "minority".”
I think it could go either way, considering DW has already equated "gang member" with "minority".”
Quinn Signs Tougher Gang Gun Law
Commented Dec 06, 2009 at 23:36:30 in Chicago
“"Etched in stone in Illinios: No guns for minorities. "
That's pretty much already the law in Chicago. So if your "logic" is right, this law will change absolutely nothing.”
That's pretty much already the law in Chicago. So if your "logic" is right, this law will change absolutely nothing.”
HisXLNC replied on Dec 07, 2009 at 16:14:43
“"It would be more accurate to say "no guns for criminals""
I think it could go either way, considering DW has already equated "gang member" with "minority".”
I think it could go either way, considering DW has already equated "gang member" with "minority".”
djcrsn replied on Dec 07, 2009 at 14:51:32
“It would be more accurate to say "no guns for criminals"”
Bury This Book! Amazon.com and the Gun Issue
Commented Dec 06, 2009 at 18:58:18 in Books
“"Of all of man's great inventions, guns claim to fame is killing and destruction, unlike a Mercedes."
In the US, cars kill twice as many people as guns, even though there are four times as many guns as there are cars.”
In the US, cars kill twice as many people as guns, even though there are four times as many guns as there are cars.”
Huckabee Granted Clemency To Maurice Clemmons, Person Of Interest, In Ambush That Killed 4 Cops
Commented Nov 29, 2009 at 23:53:27 in Politics
“It's as unconstitutional as a poll tax.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 16:58:09 in Politics
“I forgot all about that.
I now remember they used to have these scary looking vans that drove around, supposedly with equipment designed to find unlicensed TVs. Of course it was a complete scam, the vans contained no such equipment, but it was effective in scaring the populace into being good subjects of the state for nearly 50 years. Now they've switched to official looking guys walking around with headphones, waving magic wands at houses and flats. Very Orwellian.
The gun controllers would love to have a similar set up for guns. I imagine in the near future, they will try to mandate that all guns have RFID chips in them just for that purpose. As you probably know, some law enforcement agencies have already started electronically tagging their guns.”
I now remember they used to have these scary looking vans that drove around, supposedly with equipment designed to find unlicensed TVs. Of course it was a complete scam, the vans contained no such equipment, but it was effective in scaring the populace into being good subjects of the state for nearly 50 years. Now they've switched to official looking guys walking around with headphones, waving magic wands at houses and flats. Very Orwellian.
The gun controllers would love to have a similar set up for guns. I imagine in the near future, they will try to mandate that all guns have RFID chips in them just for that purpose. As you probably know, some law enforcement agencies have already started electronically tagging their guns.”
OdinsEye replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 17:16:39
“"Of course it was a complete scam, the vans contained no such equipment"
Um... actually, the vans were quite real and could detect the flyback frequencies from CRT based TVs from quite a distance. There was nothing supersecret about it. And mediocre amature radio tech could build a simple detector with same basic electronic components, a coat hanger, and some coax cable.
Of course this only works when the TVs are on.
Modern TVs are much harder to detect than the old CRT systems.
The idea it was a myth is in part due to people as.suming that every government van was such a vehicle and peaking in inside and seeing nothing.”
Um... actually, the vans were quite real and could detect the flyback frequencies from CRT based TVs from quite a distance. There was nothing supersecret about it. And mediocre amature radio tech could build a simple detector with same basic electronic components, a coat hanger, and some coax cable.
Of course this only works when the TVs are on.
Modern TVs are much harder to detect than the old CRT systems.
The idea it was a myth is in part due to people as.suming that every government van was such a vehicle and peaking in inside and seeing nothing.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:17:19 in Politics
“"Registration of automobiles (a title with VIN) and real estate (a deed, filed at the courthouse) are mechanisms of taxation but they also are proof of ownership. We have government to secure property. To secure property requires proof of ownership. "
Have you registered your TV lately?”
Have you registered your TV lately?”
OdinsEye replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:02:33
“You mean like in England?”
djcrsn replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:41:11
“and I have never registered a book or computer”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:14:21 in Politics
“Registrations has never been about safety.
Governments only register things for two reasons: Taxation and/or confiscation.”
Governments only register things for two reasons: Taxation and/or confiscation.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 00:32:34 in Politics
“"How many law enforcement officers were killed in the post Katrina confiscations that your colleagues are continually invoking?"
You do realize the Katrina confiscations happened when no one was around and the homes were abandoned for days on end? The people who stayed with their guns were able to keep them.
I'm thinking more along the lines of no-knock raids where both police officers and the home owners end up getting injured or killed.”
You do realize the Katrina confiscations happened when no one was around and the homes were abandoned for days on end? The people who stayed with their guns were able to keep them.
I'm thinking more along the lines of no-knock raids where both police officers and the home owners end up getting injured or killed.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 00:42:43 in Politics
“You mean like in Canada's where their long gun registry has at best a 50% compliance rate?
Keep in mind that Canada has a lot fewer guns and a less "rebellious" culture than the US. Trying to enforce gun registration in some parts of the US would essentially be a suicide mission.”
Keep in mind that Canada has a lot fewer guns and a less "rebellious" culture than the US. Trying to enforce gun registration in some parts of the US would essentially be a suicide mission.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 15:55:06 in Politics
“But it has eliminated the "problem". Even though there isn't a single bit of statistical evidence that the problem has been affected in any way, at least we all feel safer. Isn't that what matters most?
That's why we need to close the gun show loophole. Even though it will accomplish little to nothing, at least we can all feel safer. And our pols will feel like they've accomplished something without doing anything at all. It's a win for everyone.”
That's why we need to close the gun show loophole. Even though it will accomplish little to nothing, at least we can all feel safer. And our pols will feel like they've accomplished something without doing anything at all. It's a win for everyone.”
LindaCat replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 09:10:23
“From a practical standpoint -
Gun shows are a marginal source of firearms used illegally. This explains why LE directs it's efforts to go after the unlicensed gun dealers who make a business of selling firearms illegally. They don't do it at gun shows as it's too exposed to the LE presence. These alternate sources are so robust that they will easily fill any gap resulting from any legislative or LE effort against shows even if one were to eliminate gun shows entirely. There are political implications associated with legislating against gun shows as well. The cost / benefit ratio to LE and politicians makes it difficult to justify an effort along these lines.”
Gun shows are a marginal source of firearms used illegally. This explains why LE directs it's efforts to go after the unlicensed gun dealers who make a business of selling firearms illegally. They don't do it at gun shows as it's too exposed to the LE presence. These alternate sources are so robust that they will easily fill any gap resulting from any legislative or LE effort against shows even if one were to eliminate gun shows entirely. There are political implications associated with legislating against gun shows as well. The cost / benefit ratio to LE and politicians makes it difficult to justify an effort along these lines.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 05:54:59 in Politics
“This is horrible. How dare we allow people to sell guns at gun shows? The government should do something about this.
In some states it's impossible for meth makers to get Sudafed over the counter, because you have to show ID and sign your name on a piece of paper. As a result, the manufacture and use of meth has completely ceased. Surely we can make it equally impossible for bad people to get guns. That way all the gun crime will disappear.”
In some states it's impossible for meth makers to get Sudafed over the counter, because you have to show ID and sign your name on a piece of paper. As a result, the manufacture and use of meth has completely ceased. Surely we can make it equally impossible for bad people to get guns. That way all the gun crime will disappear.”
Rogan replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 06:58:55
“(following up my first comment, about the meth)
Oh, you were being sardonic. I get it. Never mind. (I just woke up, and haven't hit the speed yet... or, well, the coffee, as the case may be...)”
Oh, you were being sardonic. I get it. Never mind. (I just woke up, and haven't hit the speed yet... or, well, the coffee, as the case may be...)”
Rogan replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 06:57:33
“You don't really think that silly law about signing for sudafed, has made any difference, do you?
When I lived in Mississippi ten (maybe nine?) years ago, I knew a couple of guys who were meth manufacturers (they were always harrassing me to let them use my house, because of its location, to, as they described the process, "drop the bomb"). They were also big on trying to talk me into driving them from store to store so they could shoplift cold meds... (They had to steal hundreds of those pills, and wanted any help they could get.)
...but the REAL hassle, for them, was the heavily controlled OTHER ingredient, something my friend always described as "rocket fuel," called, if I remember correctly, Propanol 17 (but don't go making your own drugs from it, without a second source - my memory's shaky!). The lengths they had to go to to get the "rocket fuel," were so extreme and hazardous, they found it amusing, to think that asking others (non-shoplifters) to sign for cold medicine, would ever slow them down...
...I moved away in '02; since then, I've never even been OFFERED meth (it's not big over here on the urbanized East Coast). But I somehow didn't think that coming down on sudafed sales, had done anything to slow meth manufacture and traffickin
When I lived in Mississippi ten (maybe nine?) years ago, I knew a couple of guys who were meth manufacturers (they were always harrassing me to let them use my house, because of its location, to, as they described the process, "drop the bomb"). They were also big on trying to talk me into driving them from store to store so they could shoplift cold meds... (They had to steal hundreds of those pills, and wanted any help they could get.)
...but the REAL hassle, for them, was the heavily controlled OTHER ingredient, something my friend always described as "rocket fuel," called, if I remember correctly, Propanol 17 (but don't go making your own drugs from it, without a second source - my memory's shaky!). The lengths they had to go to to get the "rocket fuel," were so extreme and hazardous, they found it amusing, to think that asking others (non-shoplifters) to sign for cold medicine, would ever slow them down...
...I moved away in '02; since then, I've never even been OFFERED meth (it's not big over here on the urbanized East Coast). But I somehow didn't think that coming down on sudafed sales, had done anything to slow meth manufacture and traffickin
leeclayton replied on Nov 21, 2009 at 07:49:35
“Oh wait, I get it. If any one part of a solution doesn't completely eliminate a problem, it's best to do nothing about it at all. Copy that.”
Tobacco Companies Using Loophole To Avoid Hundreds Of Millions In Taxes
Commented Nov 19, 2009 at 22:42:56 in Business
“I don't smoke, but good on the tobacco companies. Government taxes too much as it is.”
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