“If it can be proven he did in fact desert (the more I read, the more I think this is the case), then he still should have been brought back to the states so he can face court martial.
As for enemy combatants vs. POWs, we did invade a sovereign nation. Now, I realize some of these people are not Afghani. I'm sure there must be a historical precedent for dealing with these people, but I'm having trouble finding any information on it. If enemy combatants do not have the same rights as a POW, then it seems some rights should be established, as this phenomenon is becoming more common elsewhere in the world, too. Such as some sort burden of proof that they are, indeed, "enemy combatants" and not some goat farmer who pissed off a neighbor.
Your point about the fact that the war is still going on is completely valid, of course.”
“Bergdahl was not a hostage, though. He was a POW. And if the guys at Guantanamo are there because they are enemy combatants, then we have to treat them as such and return them to their home country.”
rikoshaprl on Jun 5, 2014 at 23:06:28
“1. Bergdahl was a deserter at best, a defector at worst. He is not a POW. He left his camp out of uniform. 2. Enemy combatants do not have rights as a POW because they are noy soldiers fighting for a country as provided for in the Geneva Convention. PS there is still a war going on. Even if the WERE POWs they would not be traded until the war was over.”
“If this is the result--that now our enemies see our soldiers as people to take hostage--is that really worse than before, when they were just seen as people to kill?”
rikoshaprl on Jun 2, 2014 at 20:52:33
“They will look to take soldiers not in the war zone and American civilians too. Yes that is worse. But at least Obama got the VA off the front page and can say he didn't leave the soldier behind, when confronted about abandoning the ambassador and seals.”
“All perfectly reasonable concerns, most for which I bet we could find a compromise or workaround. The main thing is, we obviously have a problem, and considering how much gun crime is NOT caused by people who would be considered "insane," we have got to figure out how to restrict gun purchases for criminals. I understand your reluctance, but the 2nd Amendment itself applies to "well regulated" gun owners. The bottom line is that we will never be able to move forward in a constructive way unless the Supreme Court delineates the meaning of the 2nd Amendment's wording.”
Kretyas on May 29, 2014 at 15:51:30
“Yes, well, how about you crack down on illegal imported weapons, go after stores that sell to criminals, and make it easier for people to get a person to person background check through the police, since there's a police station in every town. Enforce the laws already on the books, BEFORE going after more laws. As we saw in the Oxnard slayings, this incident SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED, but repeated failures in the system has literally caused this.”
“I can understand that. I've just got a few guns; I would not consider myself an enthusiast, but I can see where that would be a practical consideration for some. Personally, I don't think simply limiting purchases is the way to go; I'd like to see a system where we have gun licenses that are very much like driver's licenses. Require people to take a course or prove in some way that they know how to handle a gun, do a one-time initial background check and perhaps a follow-up check once a year, and require that we carry insurance for cases where our guns may be stolen or used in a crime. With this type of gun license, once a person is cleared, they can buy as many as they want, or if there are different classes of license, as many as is allowed for their class of license. Additionally, outlaw sales that do not go through licensed, regulated gun dealers; this way, gun purchases can be tracked, and as a responsible gun owner, you or I need not worry (as much, at least) that my gun is being bought by someone who shouldn't have access to guns.”
Kretyas on May 28, 2014 at 20:58:27
“Part of the problem with that kind of registry is that it is a central database for gun grabbers to go after firearms if they get their way. As far as education, all I needed was a hunter's safety course, available in all 50 states at your local state fish and wildife, conservation department, or other hunting/fishing state agency. should cost under 20 bucks, and teaches gun AND hunting safety.
I'd recommend mandatory classes for all gun owners, using the same hunter's safety card, which is needed in most states even for fishing.
The insurance idea is not going to fly though. If I had to pay insurance for my guns, being disabled, I would literally be denied my rights, because I literally cannot afford the kinds of premiums anti gun crazies would use to discourage gun ownership.
And background checks. Given the lack of a nearby walking distance gun shop, I'd prefer that person to person sales went through your local police station or city hall, for free, since a police level background check is as easy as 5 minutes of poking keys. And often, local cops have access to stuff that for some weird reason NCIS doesn't always have.
Though, for now, I wouldn't sell mine to ANYONE I don't already know”
“Lynda was talking specifically about the same type of weapon or ammo.”
Kretyas on May 28, 2014 at 14:29:23
“Actually? sometimes it's cheaper to have 2 of the same guns, than it is to get the one gun and spare parts. I CCW 2 myself, one for primary self defense, the other just in case the first jams, fails, or gets taken.”
“I'm not saying it doesn't happen or it isn't a problem; it very much is. Although it is my understanding that the French, British, and Greeks, among many others, can riot with the best of them. Perhaps there is an underlying cause?”
“"Based on the most recent National Agricultural Workers Survey (NAWS)– a report published by the U.S. Department of Labor– farm workers work 42 hours per week and earn $7.25 per hour on average, but this “average” varies greatly. For example, workers who have worked for the same employer for multiple years earn more than other workers. Those who have been with an employer for a year or less earn an average of $6.76 per hour, and those who have been with the same employer for at least 6 years earn an average of $8.05 per hour.
Annually, the average income of crop workers is between $10,000 to $12,499 for individuals and $15,000 to $17,499 for a family. To give you an idea, the federal poverty line is $10,830 for an individual or $22,050 for a family of four (in 2009).
Thus, according to NAWS, 30% of all farm workers had total family incomes below the poverty line."
On average, migrant workers do earn minimum wage. The problem is that minimum wage is not a living wage.”
“Cherry-picked, simple facts. There is much more to it than that. I just explained it in another response on this thread.”
Concrete Cranium on May 27, 2014 at 12:47:54
“No there isn't. Muslims are running wild torching cars by the thousands and rendering whole swaths uninhabitable to the native people especially in France. They shouldn't put up with it no matter how you wish to stand in judgment from your ivory tower.”
“For assimilation to occur, the existing society has to be willing to accept the immigrants. Starting off illegally is one factor that can make it more difficult. However, a wide variety of ethnic groups has come here over time, and this mantra of "they refuse to adapt" has been repeated ad nauseam. It's been said of Scottish, Irish, African, Italian, Greek, Hungarian, Russian, Caribbean, Cuban, Pakistani, French, German, Korean, Chinese, and Israeli groups. And that's just a start. What has happened, time after time is that the first wave of immigrants arrives and sets up communities, particularly where there are language barriers, but even in the case of the Scots and the Irish, where there was also heavy exclusion. Then, the second wave hits; they are the friends and relatives of the first wave, and they get jobs working in businesses owned by the first wave. Then the second wave sets up their own enterprises, hiring and assisting subsequent waves, so on and so forth. Second-generation Americans fit in pretty well; by the third generation, immigration based (the same cannot be said for racial) prejudice and exclusion has moved on to the next group down the line.”
“I, too, am the Left, the true Progressive. In my above reply, I was speaking from my own personal experiences and those of others I know. Certainly, it may not be representative of the whole, but it is at least representative of a part. Personally, when the right wing lie machine went into overdrive in the mid-2000s, I suspected that people would see through the lies, so rather than try to shout down the lie machine, I held off. Clearly, I had too much faith in a large segment of the population. Since 2008, with the lie machine having gone nuclear, I've finally realized I have to engage, so I do. I'm so fed up at this point that sometimes it's hard to stay civil, but I try. I'm sure you can relate!”
“Thank you for your service and for your thoughtful and comprehensive post. However, I can't get your links to work. I do have a question. It seems like one of the biggest problems would be geographical access to care; i.e., rural vets may have a hard time getting to a facility.”
“Medicare actually works pretty well. Social Security does, too, when politicians aren't raiding its funding. Not to mention, in a lot of cases, Medicare is managed by private contractors and insurance companies. Medicare does not, in reality, approach a single payer system. Neither does the VA.”