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Where's the Change? It's Everywhere

Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 12:35:05 in Politics

“Since you claim there's so much of this supposedly progressive legislation Obama has put forth, it shouldn't be too hard for you to pull out a few examples.

Your last sentence - about the miracle - is way too koolaidish for me.

Today's LA Times has an article about how the bill Obama is supporting on health care is being written by lobbyists for the very same insurance companies that caused the problem, so good luck with that miracle of yours.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 12:30:36 in Politics

“On domestic issues - health care, education, LGBT rights - he's to the right of Hillary, so my guess is he'd also be to the right of Clinton. On foreign policy they're the same.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 12:15:12 in Politics

“I am not a woe-is-me anything. I take the bull by the horns and go with what works and throw out what doesn't. Obama doesn't work, for me or you. You simply have yet to figure it out. But believe me, you will.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 12:09:21 in Politics

“Obama will not come through for my community. I am not daft. My community has been dissed by the Democratic party too long for us to fall for that anymore. Our day in court did arrive, and Obama's DOJ wrote a vile, vicious attack on us - the infamous DOMA brief. At most, Obama will say some mildly kind words about the LGBT community, and make a few ultimately meaningless token gestures. But in the end, he will do nothing to truly help the LGBT cause. BTW, he won't do anything to actually fix health care either, but go ahead and hold your breath if you like. Just don't say later I didn't warn you.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 11:57:20 in Politics

“Bill Clinton was not progressive in any way, shape, or form. He was Reagan redux in many ways. Remember that Gore, who was running in peacetime and with a budget surplus, could not get elected because he was tarnished by the Clinton brand that so turned off the progressive base. So how again is this not helping progressives? It's not helping Democrats - including, and especially Obama - to not stand for any real principles. It's childish and detrimental to try to stifle criticism of our political leaders, even if they are leaders from your own political party.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 11:49:36 in Politics

“You are absolutely correct. I'm even embarrassed by some of the lovefest posts here. If McCain had done some of the things Obama has done, these people would be having a screamfest instead. The Obama administration has even convinced them that it's the sinister "extreme left" that is insisting on the public option, when their hero not so long ago said any reform MUST HAVE (his words) a public option. They just follow him further and further to the right, all the while echoing the lame excuses the White House puts out for why Obama isn keeping his campaign promises. It's truly sad.”
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Where's the Change? It's Everywhere

Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 11:45:18 in Politics

“Mirages of your own making. That's what you're seeing.”
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Where's the Change? It's Everywhere

Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 11:42:09 in Politics

“Hear! Hear!”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 11:39:54 in Politics

“The problem is the bills are being written by lobbyists for the very insurance companies who caused the problem to begin with. See today's LA Times.”
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Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 00:37:10 in Politics

“Dear One,

I'm not the one who claimed Obama was or was supposed to be on my side. The previous poster, to whom I responded, made that claim. It's entirely bogus. Not only is Obama not on the side of gays, he has in many ways gone out of his ways to antagonize us. Only someone who seriously wanted to upset the gay community would be so fiendish as to invite Rick Warren to his inauguration immediately after the passage of Prop 8 in California and similarly odious measures in three other states. Obama, too, claimed he was a "fierce advocate" for gay rights, but with fierce advocates like him, I'll take enemies any day. At least with your enemies you know not to turn your back.

How far we have come has everything to do with the LGBT community and absolutely nothing to do with the Obama administration, which actually tried to set back LGBT rights with its defense of DOMA. Obama has never been my advocate, my friend, or my ally.”

GoDems2012 on Sep 29, 2009 at 10:34:40

“I'm not one of these woe-is-me why can't i have what i want right now gay people. We agree to disagree. You're welcome to vote for whomever you'd like. I'm sticking with Barack.”

respectingothers on Sep 29, 2009 at 07:30:48

“there's at least a couple of articles on HP right now that drives my point home. one refers to the take back america conference and the other is on banned books

Fearful people become ever more scared by mobs of folks with signs and demands for things they don't understand. they become less fearful when interpersonal relationships are built and sustained. when we become real to each other we can let down our protective walls and begin to understand.
in the end Obama will come thru for your community. he is working very hard for all 300 million of us right now...he needs alot of support. We need your support. it would behoove you to build some alliances for when your day in court arrrives”

respectingothers on Sep 29, 2009 at 07:02:00

“I do not feel you even read my post before you responded or either that you are so self-absorbed you cannot see past your own nose. I have to wonder what it was GW did for you. Sounds like you miss him.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 18:36:29 in Politics

“Words of Advice to Obamapologists (Part 2):

Those of you insisting that we merely have to wait until Obama takes off his moderate, neoliberal Clark Kent garb to reveal the progressive Superman costume he's wearing underneath need to remember the Bush years. We were told all along by the Democrats that they didn't have the votes to defeat odious Republican legislation, that we needed to get Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress and a Democrat in the White House, and then we'd see real change. We just had to be patient, wait, plug away at the grassroots, and then we'd be satisfied. We now have a Democrat in the White House and Democratic majorities in both houses and we are being told to wait, be patient for... What is it this time? If you don't get it yet, the Democrats never had any intention of actually changing things beyond tweaking mildly along the edges. There's no big change coming down the pike. You're turning red already from holding your breath so long.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 18:30:40 in Politics

“Some Words of Advice to the Obamapologists (Part 1):

If your purpose is to convince those of us who disagree with the direction the Obama administration has taken that we are wrong, can the insults. Calling us whiny, childish, self-centered hedonists who want instant gratification isn't winning a whole lot of converts to your cause. If, however, your point is merely to show that you have no real arguments and must resort to gratuitous anonymous insults, by all means, insult away. You're doing a bang-up job on that front.

If you cannot distinguish between a progressive argument against Obama and a rightwing argument against Obama, why aren't you with the teabaggers? They can't distinguish between a Nazi, a socialist, a progressive, and moderate liberal either.”

killmenow on Sep 28, 2009 at 21:11:24

“I agree, and I agree with your implication that it's not even as much about Obama as it is about the Democrats, a party which he heads.

I have long said that voters who vote for the person and not the party are terribly mistaken. When you vote for that guy, you are voting for his party. And what a fun party this has been for eight months or so.... at least the tea baggers can jump up and down and scream and yell, even if they're yelling about complete and utter fictions. When the Democrats scream and yell, it's because they just got another big check from Wall Street.

Either the Democrats are liberal or they are "centrists" or they are conservative, but I shouldn't have to vote for all three. No wonder the Republicans have gone completely nuts. Their agenda has been stolen from them and all they're left with are bumper stickers. We need a viable party we can vote for that is liberal and has a fair shot at financing and media exposure. Otherwise, we're just left holding our breath.”

TruthJusticeForAll on Sep 28, 2009 at 19:15:54

“Hear, Hear!!!!”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 17:48:16 in Politics

“I see the light now. You are right. I am an ingrateful, immature, whiny brat seeking immediate gratification and Obama has accomplished so many changes to make my life so much better. Thanks for the strong, informational arguments. I am cured. All hail Obama. Save me from my immaturity and self-centeredness.”

BandsofBlack on Sep 28, 2009 at 18:08:11

“Please don't go into the right with the rest of them.

There's plenty of us sinners on the left still out here.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 17:38:23 in Politics

“I find it self-righteous that you can so casually dismiss very real concerns people have about this president. It's not a matter of him not making progressive change fast enough. It's a matter of him actually taking steps in the opposite direction. So all this talk about waiting and giving him more time is meaningless. More time will only mean more steps away from progressive action if Obama doesn't do a 180.

I am a progressive gay Latino, and I have no sense that this president is actually on my side. Besides his pro-corporate stands on myriad issues, he campaigned with ardent homophobes, refused to talk to the gay press until absolutely embarrassed into doing so, had Rick Warren give the benediction at his inauguration, neglected to act on his campaign promise of putting a stop to DADT and the dismissal of honorable LGBT service men and women, then had his DOJ write a disgusting defense of DOMA. None of this suggests Obama has the warm fuzzies for me. Oh yeah, he sometimes says mildly nice things about gays. Words are all he ever seems to offer progressives or the LGBT. How about some action?”

respectingothers on Sep 28, 2009 at 18:46:53

“what i don't think you understand is that it's virtually impossible for all 300 million of us to feel that our POTUS is on "our side". you might want to be happy for whatever small progress can be made in coming around to "your side". All you need to do is pay attention to all that is going on around you to see that there is still much loud, strong resistance to your POV in our country. Look backwards to see how far we have come but also at how long it has taken us. Changing hearts and minds doesn't happen just because you want it to. and when you have the fearful on the right getting "weeweed" up by their immoral leaders it feels like the undertow is so strong we will never make it. we'll end up with another GW if my fellow left-wingers think for one minute we can make progress any other way than an inch at a time.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 17:17:35 in Politics

“I need to learn more?

The administration did push for having the gang of 6 rather than the full committee with a Democratic majority.

Obama did initially say the public option was indispensable, only to turn and decide it was optional.

Rahm has repeatedly said or insinuated that those demanding the public option are extremist obstructionists. And Obama essentially said the same thing in his main health care speech.

The administration did negotiate a secret backroom deal with Big Pharma to keep from negotiating on drug prices.

Obama has insisted on being "bipartisan" on reform - meaning giving the Republicans who will never support him everything they want while dissing his base.

Pelosi (of all people) and the progressive Dems in Congress were the ones who pulled the public option out of the trash can after the White House started to backpedal.

It's clear that the administration's strategy is to kill the public option without making it seem like they were the ones who did so. It's either that or that they're hopelessly inept. You choose.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 17:02:02 in Politics

“Sorry, you lost. But thanks for playing.

If you read anything rightwing between the lines of what I say, you have to believe words mean the exact opposite of their dictionary meaning. Or that the definition of a progressive is someone who supports Obama, not someone who supports progressive causes.

I'm chuclking right now because I know that anyone who actually knows me would be rolling on the floor with your suggestion.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:52:16 in Politics

“The Clinton era soccer-moms were a fiction designed to make it look like the Clinton administration was doing something progressive without doing anything to actually change the status quo. To wit, Clinton brought us welfare reform, which took real single moms struggling to get by away from their kids and into day care they could not afford with their minimum wage jobs. So voila, Clinton brought us the V-chip and school uniforms, while simultaneously perpetuating the income inequality initiated by Reagan.

Far from being contemptuous of real moms, dads, kids, or their problems, I am contemptuous of political spinning that disguises odious policies by covering them under a false veneer of change.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:39:27 in Politics

“So criticizing the Obama administration for things like giveaways to Big Pharma and Wall St. is caving to the right-wing, but Obama reneging on the public option in health care is fighting the right-wing for the long haul? I don't get it.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:35:36 in Politics

“That's their excuse, but we all know that lots of legislation is initiated by the White House. The executive branch has always used its political muscle to move the legislation it wants through Congress. Thanks to Bush, Obama now has more power as president than any other president in history. He's choosing not to use it. Moreover, as head of the Democratic party, Obama should be leading the discussion. Obama will lose Democratic seats in Congress next year. That's been the historical trend. He will probably never have more political capital than he does now. If he's using any of his political capital at all it's to kill meaningful health care reform by insisting on bipartisanship, the gang of 6, and the negotiability of the public option.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:30:15 in Politics

“I seriously doubt Obama will have more than one term. His learning curve is too steep and he hasn't shown much interest in fixing his missteps. It will be truly unfortunate if the soft-racists of this country (the hard racists are incorrigible) take this to be a reflection on people of color in office. The defenders of Obama are right that he does have time to fix this, but he hasn't shown any indication of changing direction, so I'm not holding my breath.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:18:01 in Politics

“Yes, look at health care in Congress. Obama is the leader of the Democratic party. He is a Democratic president with Democratic majorities in both houses. He should have been leading the party and the country to the major health care reform this country needs. Even if the Democrats are too wimpy to fight for single-payer, the public option should have been a no-brainer. We already have Medicare and the VA, which are public options.

What did Obama do instead? He failed to fight for anything substantial. He telegraphed messages that he was more interested in being bipartisan than right in terms of health care. He let the Republicans steal the debate and pose as the true defenders of the common people (such political ineptitude is really inexcusable), he backpedaled on the public option he once called necessary, then he (and Rahm) insulted his base by insinuating that they were as extreme as the teabaggers by insisting on the public option. All of this amounts to poor leadership skills. Giving him more time won't cure that.”

aproposofnothing on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:31:21

“yes, because it's Obama who told the Finance Committee to slow down and not vote by August -

it's Obama who said to the Finance Committee to water down the bill but told the other three committees and the house to keep public option.

Like I said below, you need to learn more before making these claims.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:09:09 in Politics

“I think Obama gets paid to fan the flames of Obama disaffection.”

LCLA on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:48:25

“And JXQ is an example of the second type.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 16:05:29 in Politics

“The Obama administration has managed to find time to write an extremely offensive defense of DOMA, extend the war in Afghanistan to Pakistan, promote charter schools and NCLB a la Bush, make secret backroom deals with Big Pharma, cut the progressives out of the health care reform debate by throwing it to Blue Dog Dems and so-called moderate Republicans, withdraw the public option from consideration, give tax money away to Wall St. and the big automakers, use unmanned drones in Afghanistan and Pakistan that kill 50 times more innocent civilians than supposed suspects, and now, apparently, lobby to make Chicago a future Olympics site. Clearly this is not a matter of giving him more time.”

aproposofnothing on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:38:38

“re DOMA the administration has to do its job. If it is law now, it has to defend it in its brief in response to an appeal. P

Pakistan is a huge problem and the major root of terrorism. Do you even follow the news there? Afghanistan is a disaster and we need to leave, but there has to be an exit strategy, remember that whole thing everyone criticized Bush for not having.

The Senate Finance committee is where the Blue dogs took over the debate, that has nothing to do with any president ever.

He never withdrew the public option from consideration. Saying he'd consider other comparable options is not saying no PO.

Lobby to make Chicago a future Olympic site is an issue? wait, you must be a rightwinger troll.

These are the types of comments that make you lose all credibility, no logic, no facts, no knowledge, and random jabs.”

aproposofnothing on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:20:26

“Please educate yourself.

re DOMA the administration has to do its job. If it is law now, it has to defend it in its brief in response to an appeal. P

Pakistan is a huge problem and the major root of terrorism. Do you even follow the news there? Afghanistan is a disaster and we need to leave, but there has to be an exit strategy, remember that whole thing everyone criticized Bush for not having.

The Senate Finance committee is where the Blue dogs took over the debate, that has nothing to do with any president ever.

He never withdrew the public option from consideration. Saying he'd consider other comparable options is not saying no PO.

Lobby to make Chicago a future Olympic site is an issue? wait, you must be a rightwinger troll.

These are the types of comments that make you lose all credibility, no logic, no facts, no knowledge, and random jabs.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 15:57:40 in Politics

“- If you want real health care reform, or any other big change, you're going to have to do your part and put the proper pressure in the proper places.-

That would be the White House. Obama and Rahm are the ones who keep backpedaling on the public option, which was already a compromise on the better single-payer option.”

DGW on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:25:45

“The executive branch cannot create legislation, that is the role of Congress. Obama can ask but Congress must ultimately provide. We need to apply pressure to our reps and senators to have the public option included in the legislation. Then when it passes Obama will sign and execute.”

aproposofnothing on Sep 28, 2009 at 16:24:47

“WRONG! It is Congress. Learn some civics.”
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Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 15:44:03 in Politics

“Then you have clearly not been paying attention. The arguments against what Obama has done and has failed to do are substantial, well reasoned, and staunchly progressive. Moreover, people who are criticizing Obama are not, for all the strawman arguments tossed around on this thread, saying Obama hasn't brought about change fast enough. We're saying he has continued many of the Bush policies, has even extended some of them, has been a lapdog for Wall St., Big Pharma, etc., and has done nothing to bring about the change this country needs to weather or many crises. Yes, he's done some Clinton-era, easy, soccer-mom stuff, but when push comes to shove, Obama is weak, ineffectual, and pro-status quo.

The definition of a progressive is not, as you seem to think, someone who supports Obama, but someone who supports progressive causes.”

aproposofnothing on Sep 28, 2009 at 15:54:19

“he can't bring about changes like discontinuing Bush policies without putting something else there! That's why saying he hasn't changed anything means exactly that you are saying he hasn't done it fast enough. I don't agree with some of his decisions, and I am left of moderate. But I am not going to be unrealistic that he holds the power to make all changes. Look at health care in Congress! We should have had more dems elected, how about that as a failure of the American public.”
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