“I totally understand what "let it be" economics is. Somalia is a warlord society based on tribal rule. It does not mimic "laissez faire" economics based in a democratic republic that has a constitution.
If you want a better understanding of Dr. Paul's ideas on this matter I suggest you read this thread. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?366996-Laissez-faire-Capitalism-Is-it-fair”
luvbrothel on May 9, 2012 at 13:25:53
“I understand Paul quite well. What he and his followers DON'T understand is how deeply entrenched giant corporations and the wealthy are in our politics. Do they want worker's rights? No. Do they want regulations controlling their pollutants? No. Do they want 401k contributions and employer health care? No. Do they want minimum wages or equal pay protections? No. Do they want to pay any taxes at all? No. Do they want to make as much money as possible at the expense of others? Of course. Ron Paul's utopia results in nothing more than a warlord state: The ones with the most money control the society, i.e. Somalia. Talk about drinking Kool-Aid.”
“Man, if that's your view of Ron Paul then you have drank the kool-aid.
Ron Paul is all about giving rights, liberties, freedoms back to the people.
The EPA is in bed with the 1%. They get kickbacks from the 1% to dump their pollution without any state or municipal government having any legal recourse to sue.
Go watch a documentary on utube called "Burzynski" and get back to me on how wonderful the FDA is. They're in bed with the big pharma.
You're clueless and it's sad.”
luvbrothel on May 9, 2012 at 07:04:13
“You do understand what 'laissez faire economics' is, don't you? No? Take a look at Somalia. That is a Paul paradise. Do you really, really think that these people have your best interests at heart, or that they just want to make a buck off your useless carcass? LoL. Corporations are NOT people, my friend.”
“You can thank the Bush tax cuts that liberals despise for your taxes being way down.
As for heroin, studies have shown after the initial spike of use after legalization, people wise-up and use goes way down because they figure out that legalization doesn't equate to safe use, like alcohol.
Ron Paul can't decree all drugs legal. Again, states would make that decision and I doubt many if any would because if one did and others didn't, all the heroin addicts would flock to that state.
However, if a state did, they wouldn't have to worry about the feds swooping down to arrest people that use it.
I think the country realizes that treating drug abuse has better success when treated as a health issue with an educated approach rather than a criminal appoach.
Besides, who cares whether a dying cancer or aids patient does heroine? A healthy teenager? Absolutely, however, if I wanted to find heroine today or any drug for that matter, I'd have better luck finding it at a high school.
The majority of crime associated with drugs is caused by the fact that drugs are illegal, like prohibition did back in the day.”
“You will never live in the liberal utopia you dream of as long as one half of the country tries to force the other half to accept their viewpoint. By allowing states to decide their own social and economic issues while the federal government ensures everyone's constitutional rights, you have a greater chance of pursuing happiness.
Most likely their would be 12-15 states you would love to live in, 12-15 that you would never visit and the rest would be a coin toss.
States are capable of providing their own safety net as well as socialized healthcare including free abortions if they want. Taxes paid to the federal government to enforce laws you don't agree with are better paid to a state government that has laws you agree wholly with.
The problem with most liberals is they want someone else to pay for the gifts they want to receive from government.
This is why Ron Paul is the best compromise between left and right. Bizarro world is the sad flock of politicians that put party over our constitution and people blaming the opposing party for the decline of our country.”
“The bottom-line for those that support Obama, must realize that Romney would do the same, so your only choice is Ron Paul.
Be glad that you have that choice. Make it count while you still can.”
caratablet on May 8, 2012 at 17:46:49
“Funny, with all those tornadoes and hurricanes in the Midwest Ron Paul will not lift a finger to help them. Don't forget the floods too. Ron Paul is a great candidate... right when pigs fly.”
wizedollars on May 8, 2012 at 17:39:25
“Couldn't agree more. But let the ignorant stay in denial and achieving the same sad results.”
fumes on May 8, 2012 at 17:24:25
“Ron Paul wants to legalize pot and shut down the Federal Reserve. He thinks the federal government has no authority to outlaw abortion, no business bombing Iran to keep it from acquiring a nuclear weapon, and no justification to print money unless it's backed up by gold bars.
RON PAUL 2012”
“Well, sure it does if you know Ron Paul. He's all about laissez faire economics. Virtually no government, virtually no rights for people, since the government is there to give voice to the people. Virtually no government, virtually no EPA regulations, which means lots of sick people and deformations. Collusion between corporate giants becomes the norm. Then we become a version of Saipan, where workers need to sign contracts and live in certain areas so they can be watched. And so on and so on...”
“The freedom to opt out of Social Security.
The freedom to opt out of Medicare and Medicaid.
The freedom to choose a health care provider or health insurer that isn't encumbered by rules and regulations that drive-up the price of premiums or limits the type of treatment they can prescribe.
The freedom to know who the racist are so that I don't give them a dime of my money or help them profit because government tells them they can't display their true colors.
The freedom to ingest any herb I choose for my benefit.
The freedom to grow hemp.
The freedom to purchase goods and services with gold or silver.
The freedom to not support a war with my taxes against countries that haven't attacked us or are no threat to our national security.
The freedom to live in a state that doesn't support the termination of potential life.
The freedom to live without fear that my government can detain me indefinitely without legal representation.
The freedom to get on a jet and travel without being molested by the TSA.
All freedoms and liberties are in jeopardy when government ignores any one freedom guaranteed by our constitution.”
“The best way to have worker control and democracy in the workplace is to work hard building a business then give it all to your employees. When they all vote themselves a raise, give it to them. When they decide to sell your business and split the profits equally, do it.
Do you think Obama is for worker control?
Lottery proceeds go toward education in just about every state. K-12 is paid for by taxes and lottery proceeds. As far as college,as long as you have a pulse, you can get all the government money you need to pay for college. Are you suggesting it should be free?”
Artamentous on May 3, 2012 at 22:22:31
“Yes higher education should be free or heavily subsidized. There is no better investment in the world than education.
This country has enormous wealth, workers in this country are some of the most productive on earth. The fact that tuition has risen by nearly 400% in the last 20 years is a farce, we are fleecing our children .”
“Spot on. That's what Ron Paul stands for. Reduce the federal government and allow states to work out what their people want instead of half the country trying to force their "economic solutions" and idea of America on the other half that sees it differently.
Yeah, lottery, a voluntary tax. Something the average American can relate to. If I gave an example of a smart, hard-working, job providing individual making a $100,000,000 and only able to keep a little over $5M, most people could care less about him, BUT if they won $100,000,000 and only kept a little over $5M, oh, HE!! NO!!!”
Artamentous on May 3, 2012 at 01:49:50
“Ron Paul is not for Worker control, or democracy in the workplace. Economic Democracy will free us from the tyranny of state and large corporation, think about it.
As for the lotto tax. I get what you are doing, but you are using a fantasy that less than .0001% of the population could ever experience. IN fact they'd probably be more liklely to be a CEO.
Also, you leave out the example, that while the lotto winner is taxed highly, there would be massive social programs that would offset that "loss" ask americans if they would rather see affordable education, or lose 91% of their lotto winners after 1.2 million. What do you their answer would be?”
“So you're OK working for a racist or eating at their restaurant as long as you don't know they're racist. Got it.
Keep your head buried in the sand, That's where it belongs. The real world might shock you.”
“What we are doing isn't working. We have to make a change. The gold standard is what we had before we debased our dollar. We are devaluing our dollar which is causing inflation. The rest of the world doesn't have to jump to another currency, they can simply raise prices to make-up the difference. However, it will come to a point where they will have to find another currency to replace one that is more devalued than other currencies. We'll get to that point.”
“Give me some examples of where you think he is wrong.”
Faceless on May 3, 2012 at 11:41:45
“The obvious example, you should remember because the audience cheered even though Paul wasn't making that argument, was about what to do get more people covered by health insurance. I'm not a particular fan of a mandate myself. I'd prefer a tax for a single-payer system. Paul opposes forcing anyone to get health insurance, but doesn't want them to just die (ahem debate audience). He advises getting insurance, but has no plan to deal with people that don't or can't afford it. I didn't know before his run, but he signed on to the idea of personhood amendments, which would ban many forms of birth control and in vitro. I don't have to go into my position on legalized abortion because that personhood stance is bad enough for me. Finally, I can't get over the End the Fed and the gold standard arguments. I agree that the Federal Reserve needs serious attention, but ending it could tie our hands on monetary policy like some of the countries stuck in the Eurozone. We are just not going back to the gold standard. That ship has sailed. We might as well make arguments for the horse and buggy to end auto admissions. I think he's an interesting voice, but I don't think his policies are the solutions. I think he agitates the other parties from both sides of the political spectrum and that's important because they're downright incestuous on foreign policy where I agree with Paul the most.”