“So, what you're really concerned about is having a BABYSITTER for your child so you can go to work??????”
salviati on Apr 22, 2011 at 04:11:08
“People take for granted that our schools are institutionalized daycare for children. Particularly when the society has moved from one to two income households, not to mention single parent households. This is a form of societal leverage that many of the teachers I know don't even realize that they have. I would argue that it is the most important form of leverage that they realistically have.
If you think parents and the public at large, are concerned about the quality of their children's academic education, you are dreaming. They are more concerned with the shutting down of the sports activities, than they are with academics. For proof of this, walk into your local high school and see how much wall space is allocated to the academic high achievers and compare it to sports.”
“Well, having not ever taught in Texas, I can't speak to the difficulty level of the TAKS test. I do know, however, that Missouri kids take one of the most rigorous state-required tests in the midwest, if not in the nation. And again, I have only taught in two school districts in my 12 years, but after having talked with several other family members and friends who teach not just in other districts, but all over the state, we generally try not to test the kids for longer than 2 hours in any given day, so that they don't get burned out. I'm sorry if your experience was that nothing mattered after the TAKS, but I have never had an admin (and I have seen many come and go) that didn't care what happened after the MAP. And no, I do not teach in an affluent district.”
Easttexas82 on Apr 22, 2011 at 09:22:37
“Well that's awesome. First of all, let me congratulate you on 12 years of teaching. I taught for 8, which is above average. I think the average is 5. Sounds like Missouri is doing the right thing as far as test length. Yes, the tests in Texas are incredibly long. The schools that perform well are ones that motivate them the best. Or, after testing this way since the early 90's, maybe our kids are more used to taking 3 to 4 hour tests. But for some schools, this is always going to be a major hurdle. My kids are lucky and are in one of the better schools in the state. Not that it's affluent by any means. I'll admit that I was taking out some frustration in my earlier post. No, I never stopped teaching after the TAKS and neither do most other teachers. But, the sense of relief was unreal and I could teach what I wanted like some actual college prep.
As far as how rigorous Missouri's tests are, until we have a system that is nation-wide, how will we know? And on a kind of creepy note...... My last year to teach was 2002. That year when we gave the test, we, the teachers, were instructed to not to look at the questions on the test. Just saying.....”