“I'm fat as well and know better than to say that most fat people are fat because of laziness. I don't know why you're fat and you don't know why I'm fat and you can't look at a person and automatically know how active or healthy they are.”
Michael Le Houllier on Mar 8, 2014 at 05:57:57
“But America DOES have a fat problem. After living in Georgia for six years, I can totally understand why many Southerners are fat. They have a horrible diet.”
“While I might have said I didn't know how this particular movie was cast, I never said I knew nothing about casting in general. Also, transgender people do not like being referred to as trangendered so that is why you shouldn't use that term.”
astraia on Mar 5, 2014 at 12:46:55
“i'm still waiting for you to point out my false equivalencies?
further, why aren't you complaining about Matthew McConaughey playing the role of an HIV-infected person when he himself has never been HIV-infected?”
gawd almighty on Mar 5, 2014 at 08:16:17
“just because transgendered don't like the term, doenst mean the term can't be used.”
“But the issue of representation is alive and very important to me and a lot of other people so I'm not gonna just sit back and watch things stay the same. People are making noise in an effort to be heard and I'm listening and offering what I can. You are dismissing me because you no longer care and your apathy is unsettling and helps no one. Meanwhile, I'll be having this conversation with anyone who wants to until something changes.”
Anne Mccormick on Mar 4, 2014 at 23:47:41
“Please continue to make noise by all means. It's you right. Just as it my right to move on from the subject. There are far more important issues to deal with in my opinion. But I hope you have great conversations with those who agree with you.”
“It still remains that directors and casting directors look for specific types, you and I both know this. This director apparently wasn't actually looking for a transwoman or he would have found and cast one. So many roles go to white men and women that could've just as easily been given to anyone else. "The best actor got the part" simply isn't always true.”
Anne Mccormick on Mar 4, 2014 at 23:16:54
“Kristen you are "beating a dead horse" as my grandmother says. Jared won the part in the film months ago. He now has the Oscar for best actor. It is over, finished, done with. Other have moved on, so should youl”
“1. It's TransgendeR not TransgenderED. Don't use that.
2. You're operating under flawed logic that includes false equivalencies and a dismissal of representation.
3. Actors act; they do not transform themselves into the characters. They do not become the characters.
4. Hollywood's casting system is flawed and less than adequate when it comes to representing real people.”
astraia on Mar 4, 2014 at 22:35:06
“1) transgendered is an adjective; I used it properly to modify the noun "person"
2) if a non-transgendered person cannot authetically portray a transgendered person, then how can a non-president authentically portray a president? How in the world is that a false equivalency?
3) many actors do transform themselves, detrimentally so. See http://www.nydailynews.com/news/jack-nicholson-warned-heath-ledger-joker-role-article-1.340786 regarding heath ledger's role as the joker in dark knight
4) you admitted in previous comments that you know nothing about casting actors in movies”
“Many of these people have been portrayed by more than one actor and of course some took time to make so the right person could be available so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Also, even though Ben Kingsley is of Indian descent and admittedly was great as Ghandi, he still had to perform in brown face and normally doesn't play characters of South Asian decent. Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra was whitewashing a North African figure. Somehow I don't think we're having the same conversation.”
astraia on Mar 4, 2014 at 21:34:59
“You are claiming that only a transgendered person could have authentically portrayed Rayon, right?
If that is correct, then only a President could play a President, only a Queen could play a Queenince there is no equivalent to Jesus that I know of, therefore, no movie about his life could ever have been made because there isn't anyone to portray him.
Clearly, you don't understand that the concept of acting - and being successful at it - is for people to transform theselves in order to play the role for which they have been cast.”
“The reason is representation. Trans people want to see themselves on screen and portrayed in a positive light. Trans actors also want to work and when they aren't at least given the opportunities to play trans characters then there's a problem because it's not like they're being offered many other parts at the moment.”
“I have no doubt he was the best white cisgender man for the part, honestly. However, if you think that the absolute best actor always gets the part than you're the naive one.”
Anne Mccormick on Mar 4, 2014 at 22:26:38
“No, I am not naive but you obviously have no understanding how it's done. So pay attention here; after sifting through all the interviews etc the director and casting agent decided that Jared Leto was/is the best actor for the part. Now, it is done and over.”
“Well, Jared is such a musician that many people in my generation and younger don't really know him as an actor. Even so, he is definitely more privileged than the actors just getting started on little to no money.”
JGarrick62 on Mar 4, 2014 at 11:05:11
“What on earth does that have to do with anything? Are they supposed to cast only charity cases to play featured roles in major motion pictures that cost millions to produce? Sorry, but I really don't understand where you're trying to go with this. They're making a movie, so they cast the person who they think will be best able to A) portray the character, and B) draw at the box office.”
gawd almighty on Mar 4, 2014 at 09:38:08
“he lost 40lbs to play the role. I'd like to see you audition for the part”
Whitney Danielle Pyant on Mar 4, 2014 at 09:13:06
“That because he haven't acted in anything in six years.”
“If there was someone better, if I didn't want the job, if I couldn't be there to shoot and I could afford not to take it, sure. It's not like it doesn't happen. Also, he's a musician as well so he has options.”
JGarrick62 on Mar 4, 2014 at 11:00:16
“I haven't heard of many actors turning down roles because "there was someone better." If you're an actor and you think that's true, you should find another line of work.”
gawd almighty on Mar 4, 2014 at 09:35:56
“yes, he has options, and he chose the option to take the role. his right, nothing for you to complain about.”
Twinz48 on Mar 4, 2014 at 00:28:29
“Most actors don't work on a regular basis. For every actor who gets a part there are hundreds who don't and find their living doing something else until they do get a part. I'm not certain actors turn down roles they are offered because there's someone better to play the part. Obviously, Leto wanted the job or he wouldn't have taken it. It appears he was also available for the shoot. I don't know what his financial situation is/was, so I don't know if he could or could not afford to take the part. The fact that Leto is also a musician has little to do with anything. Johnny Depp is also a musician but I don't see him adding much to his discography so that point is moot. Leto had options. His option was to take the part.”
Anne Mccormick on Mar 3, 2014 at 23:52:41
“Obviously, the director and casting agent thought that Jared was/is the right person for the job.”
“I know that it's impossible for some experiences that we see in movies and TV to have been actually lived by actors but when it comes to more realistic roles then there's an opportunity for real representation. Trans people and issues are very misunderstood and looked down upon and while I don't dislike Jared for taking this role, I dislike that even if trans women auditioned for this role it ultimately went to him. A trans woman actor would have more experience to draw upon is what I'm saying but still also have a harder time being cast.”
astraia on Mar 4, 2014 at 20:48:20
“By that logic, you must admit that many many movies would never been made... who would play............
Cleopatra, Caesar and Marc Antony
Bonnie and Clyde
“You were assigned a gender at birth based on your genitalia, as was I. You identify with it and in essence you are cisgender. You definitely don't have to use that word if you don't want too but it's true. Obviously you should be referred to by whatever pronouns and names you want and people should comply with your requests. Transgender people simply do not use that term so we should not impose it on them. It is their identity, something active rather than something that has happened to them to make them fell the way they do. Transgendered is wrong.”
“I don't know anything about the casting, but I assume most people don't. However, I think that considering the overall lack of roles depicting transgender people and even fewer known trans actors working that it's possible the casting directors were looking specifically for cisgender men for this part.”
astraia on Mar 3, 2014 at 21:34:48
“Since when must an actor have lived a role in order to play the role?”
“Except that that's not the terminology that transgender people use to describe themselves. So, in that respect it's wrong.”
murphy girl on Mar 3, 2014 at 21:55:48
“And the term cisgender is not the terminology that we use to describe ourselves, but that doesn't stop people from using it. Just as I was not assigned a gender at birth, I was born a female, period. People are going to say what people are going to say. I choose my battles and what others choose to call me in not on my list.”
“Seriously though, when a group of people is being marginalized and says they see a problem in how they are being represented, why are some people outside of the group so quick to dismiss them? Cisgender, (mostly) white straight and gay people and other allies need to stop speaking over trans people. We need to shut up, sit down and listen to them for once.”