Leebot's Comments (54)
The New Old Face of Racism
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 15:49:59 in Politics
“This type of amorphous phrase "black frame of mind" strikes me as being in a similar category as Glenn Beck's "white culture." The speakers throw the phrase out there -- hinting at but never actually providing a definition. This conveniently allows listeners to fill in the blank with their own prejudices and attitudes. While an effective (and despicable) rhetorical device, I do believe that is reveals more about Rush personally than anyone he's talking about. Just like the phrases "these people" or "you people" or "I'm not a racist BUT" -- they are deal-breakers as far as getting me to tune in further to the subsequent message.”
satanlite replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 16:47:32
“You're exactly right. The amorphous phrase, ready to be filled in by the desires of hte listener, is a stock item in hate radio beit from the left or right. (Don't know if there is such a thing as "left" hate radio, but I thought I'd say that to be Fair and Balanced.)”
McKinley1901 replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 15:54:33
“Remember this recent quote from Jesse?:
“You can’t vote against healthcare [legislation] and call yourself a black man.””
“You can’t vote against healthcare [legislation] and call yourself a black man.””
k1dork replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 15:53:57
“I'm sure you are just as upset at Jesse Jackson for saying THE EXACT SAME THING.”
Why the Palin "Hate Affair" Will Backfire
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 18:21:25 in Politics
“I'm not going to support a female politician JUST because of similar plumbing.
I did not support Hillary and I'm not "crying now," though I can easily acknowledge she is a far more viable candidate than Palin will ever be.
You're viewing the political landscape through the very narrow lens of your brand of feminism. Sorry I can't get on board.”
I did not support Hillary and I'm not "crying now," though I can easily acknowledge she is a far more viable candidate than Palin will ever be.
You're viewing the political landscape through the very narrow lens of your brand of feminism. Sorry I can't get on board.”
Famous for Being Famous: The Sarah Palin Show Is On the Air
Commented Nov 18, 2009 at 21:03:19 in Politics
“Oh Bob, there is no shortage of posters who rush to post vapid comments proves your point.”
Famous for Being Famous: The Sarah Palin Show Is On the Air
Commented Nov 18, 2009 at 20:58:22 in Politics
“And both willing to exploit their children in the pursuit of personal fame.”
How the Republicans Failed to Cut Off My Health Care Speech
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 14:40:36 in Politics
“Thank you. Our legislators need to understand the full human cost of their inaction.”
Obama Is Right About Fox News
Commented Oct 29, 2009 at 12:59:16 in Media
“They did not scoop these stories.”
Obama Is Right About Fox News
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 18:28:03 in Media
“Precisely, and in tandem with that -- I think a good Geek Project would involve finding stories Fox breathlessly scooped about malfeasance and questionable characters in the Bush Administration.”
oldngrumpy replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 21:48:04
“Attorney firings? Good job Brownie?”
Obama Is Right About Fox News
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 15:15:59 in Media
“(No offense to Comedy Central)”
Obama Is Right About Fox News
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 14:57:15 in Media
“"What the situation required was sarcasm, irony, a little humor."
Agreed. I think the White House could have made their point in a humorous way by offering full press credentials and access to Comedy Central. Faux News could follow the self-proclaimed Fake News in rotation. At press conferences, seat their correspondents next to each other.”
Agreed. I think the White House could have made their point in a humorous way by offering full press credentials and access to Comedy Central. Faux News could follow the self-proclaimed Fake News in rotation. At press conferences, seat their correspondents next to each other.”
JazzyJim replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 18:29:50
“Sarcasm, Irony and a lot of humor - is our job.”
396 replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 17:57:01
“That was funny Leebot.
I'm down with your plan.
Feeling a bit defensive today are we Alex.
Nothing like reading whiney words from Fox supporters over and over again.”
I'm down with your plan.
Feeling a bit defensive today are we Alex.
Nothing like reading whiney words from Fox supporters over and over again.”
alex61 replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 17:12:49
“You can't seem to explain why Fox is doing so well. Are the majority of cabler news viewers stupid, lacking the special wisdom of Obermann watchers? You don't specify.”
Leebot replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 15:15:59
“(No offense to Comedy Central)”
Why the NFL and Corporate America Reject Limbaugh and Beck
Commented Oct 19, 2009 at 19:49:17 in Media
“Huffpo, please fix your broken link. Thanks.
Eric, good article. I especially thought your description of the insularity of the right-wing echo-chamber was well-stated. However, I question your opening statement and wonder if Rush or Glenn have "learned" anything, since they filter all of this through the lens of the victim, where any malfeasance is someone else's.”
Eric, good article. I especially thought your description of the insularity of the right-wing echo-chamber was well-stated. However, I question your opening statement and wonder if Rush or Glenn have "learned" anything, since they filter all of this through the lens of the victim, where any malfeasance is someone else's.”
The Weakness of Liz Cheney
Commented Oct 19, 2009 at 14:14:19 in Politics
“I recommend John Dean's book "Conservatives Without a Conscience ." He has some interesting thoughts about people who subscribe to an authoritarian mindset and style of governance, and how that manifests in the public square. The Cheney Complex seems to dovetail with those descriptions quite aptly.”
Is Obama a "Narcissist"?
Commented Oct 13, 2009 at 18:48:08 in Politics
“Yes, the politics of personality does seem oddly emphasized at times. I think there are biases at work at least with some, and I also think there is some jealousy and resentment at his popularity. We can worship our big screen and TV stars, our sports figures, but for some to actually like and appreciate an elected leader can only be some misguided neurosis, and "cult of personality" and "Dear Leader" references become the Dittos of the day.”
Is Obama a "Narcissist"?
Commented Oct 13, 2009 at 18:32:44 in Politics
“Thinking about Narcissus of classical mythology -- he was the one who was so enraptured by his own reflection in the pond that he could not tear himself away, completely oblivious to the real love waiting nearby in the form of the besotted Echo.
One can be possessed of self-regard along a wide spectrum, perhaps to the point of being vain or having an inflated ego in the eyes of some, yet that's a far cry from true "narcisissism" at least from a clinical perspective. I think that word is being used a bit casually and Obama's detractors are eager to conflate personality traits with policy differences. From what I've seen he places a premium on maintaining loving, healthy relationships with his family, he has the ability to empathize and connect with others, so no, he has an inclusive approach (sometimes to his detriment, I think) so I would not say he's a narcissist.
I could name numerous members of the GOP and related punditry that I personally believe display dysfunctional behaviors, but that's probably a whole 'nother thread. Suffice it to say a psychoanalyst might see some interesting examples of Freudian projection from that quarter.”
One can be possessed of self-regard along a wide spectrum, perhaps to the point of being vain or having an inflated ego in the eyes of some, yet that's a far cry from true "narcisissism" at least from a clinical perspective. I think that word is being used a bit casually and Obama's detractors are eager to conflate personality traits with policy differences. From what I've seen he places a premium on maintaining loving, healthy relationships with his family, he has the ability to empathize and connect with others, so no, he has an inclusive approach (sometimes to his detriment, I think) so I would not say he's a narcissist.
I could name numerous members of the GOP and related punditry that I personally believe display dysfunctional behaviors, but that's probably a whole 'nother thread. Suffice it to say a psychoanalyst might see some interesting examples of Freudian projection from that quarter.”
MysticalPippin replied on Oct 13, 2009 at 21:12:27
“Hey Leebot, I agree with you on the use of the word by conservatives who claim he is a Narcissist and have accused the left of considering him as a god or demi-god.
They don't seem to get one cannot be both.
Apparantly there are more than several versions from different era's and cultures. I think you're talking about the Roman story which was adapted from the Greek version -
Taught in high school during the 60's-70's, where a hero of Thespia held nothing but hatred for those close by who loved him. He was exceptionally cruel to them so as divine punishment, he was lead to a pool of water in a forest where he saw his own reflection for the first time. He immediately fell in love with it not knowing it was himself. As he became more enamored of it he could not tear himself away so he died from lack of food and sleep.
Either way you hear the story or understand it. It's a HUGE step from the psychological meaning we have come to know from Frued. And it once again contradicts the Right's opinions of its real meaning.
Great article and interesting that someone finally pointed that out.”
They don't seem to get one cannot be both.
Apparantly there are more than several versions from different era's and cultures. I think you're talking about the Roman story which was adapted from the Greek version -
Taught in high school during the 60's-70's, where a hero of Thespia held nothing but hatred for those close by who loved him. He was exceptionally cruel to them so as divine punishment, he was lead to a pool of water in a forest where he saw his own reflection for the first time. He immediately fell in love with it not knowing it was himself. As he became more enamored of it he could not tear himself away so he died from lack of food and sleep.
Either way you hear the story or understand it. It's a HUGE step from the psychological meaning we have come to know from Frued. And it once again contradicts the Right's opinions of its real meaning.
Great article and interesting that someone finally pointed that out.”
No Doubt Obama Deserves the Nobel!
Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 20:58:24 in World
“Thank you very much for your perspective. I enjoyed reading "American Vertigo" and your appearances on GPS. The world really has become more "flat" and Obama understands that we are more of a global community; I appreciate his perspective that the well-being of all citizens are inextricably connected. The American exceptionalism and jingo-ism from the previous Administration is SOOO yesterday, and I think what we're seeing from the Right is a lot of panic that their construct of world order simply will not hold.”
Reaction to President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize is Another "Teaching Moment"
Commented Oct 10, 2009 at 19:47:51 in Politics
“Well said, thank you.”
Obama's Nobel Prize Is Really a Tribute to American Voters
Commented Oct 10, 2009 at 18:07:40 in Politics
“Thanks for this. I have in-laws living in Ireland and Wales. Spoke to Irish brother-in-law this morning who said that Obama's speeches about international affairs, particularly his latest U.N. speech - have really resonated and had a positive impact in his neck of the woods. I think too many Americans are oblivious to anything that isn't on their immediate radar screen. As for those who actively despise Obama, well, that is a whole different thread and there have been many on that subject. Suffice it to say the U.S. is a big country, and thank goodness, diverse.”
Why Would Anyone Call Their Book "Going Rogue"? Answer Below.
Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 21:31:02 in Politics
“Sure, there's the SNL reference, and thanks to Tina Fey the word "rogue" is rendered very cute indeed, but I think the word will also appeal to those Republicans who are already idealizing the thought of revolution, even secession. Palin can continue to dog whistle AND capitalize on her physical appeal at the same time. She's not just Caribou Barbie, she's We Don't Need No Stinkin' Gubmint Tea Party Barbie.”
When Freedom Is a Dirty Word
Commented Sep 22, 2009 at 19:30:52 in Politics
“I live in the Portland area and I can tell you the community was outraged at the jury's findings in this case. Evidently the defendants' ingrained religious beliefs and how it affected their thinking was afforded a weight that would not have been extended to killers acting out of a different (non-religious) motivation. Clearly the problem also exists with a hyper-extended view of how far we should tolerate religious "freedom."
What I don't understand is how this particular religion can be so convinced of the merits of faith-healing when little Ava rests in the company of numerous other children from this particular sect. I don't mean to sound disrespectful of faith in general, but I think that would be enough to make one tell God to go pound sand.”
What I don't understand is how this particular religion can be so convinced of the merits of faith-healing when little Ava rests in the company of numerous other children from this particular sect. I don't mean to sound disrespectful of faith in general, but I think that would be enough to make one tell God to go pound sand.”
legaleagle 45 replied on Sep 23, 2009 at 17:38:08
“Leebot wrote: "I live in the Portland area and I can tell you the community was outraged at the jury's findings in this case."
Hmmm... I live in the Portland area also... I did not perceive a great deal of outrage. Yeah there were some grumblings, but no protests or marches or other outward signs of community disgust.
Lesbot wrote: "Evidently the defendants' ingrained religious beliefs and how it affected their thinking was afforded a weight that would not have been extended to killers acting out of a different (non-religious) motivation ."
Actually it did not. Evidence concerning the religious motivation and beliefs was excluded by the Judge. Some Jurors commented that if they had been aware of the teachings of the church, they would have been much harsher on both defendants. The defense, as I understand it, was that the parents did not understand how sick the child was, that the child was sick over the weekend and seemed to be getting better and that a "reasonable parent" may have delayed in seeking medical help until after the weekend, which was too late to save the child.
Lesbot wrote: "I don't mean to sound disrespectful of faith in general, but I think that would be enough to make one tell God to go pound sand."
Agree.”
Hmmm... I live in the Portland area also... I did not perceive a great deal of outrage. Yeah there were some grumblings, but no protests or marches or other outward signs of community disgust.
Lesbot wrote: "Evidently the defendants' ingrained religious beliefs and how it affected their thinking was afforded a weight that would not have been extended to killers acting out of a different (non-religious) motivation
Actually it did not. Evidence concerning the religious motivation and beliefs was excluded by the Judge. Some Jurors commented that if they had been aware of the teachings of the church, they would have been much harsher on both defendants. The defense, as I understand it, was that the parents did not understand how sick the child was, that the child was sick over the weekend and seemed to be getting better and that a "reasonable parent" may have delayed in seeking medical help until after the weekend, which was too late to save the child.
Lesbot wrote: "I don't mean to sound disrespectful of faith in general, but I think that would be enough to make one tell God to go pound sand."
Agree.”
redkim replied on Sep 22, 2009 at 21:48:41
“I wouldn't tell God to go pound sand, I would tell the leaders of that sect to eat sh*t and d i e.”
How Fox's Chris Wallace Became Irrelevant
Commented Sep 22, 2009 at 11:42:00 in Media
“Or perhaps Chris Wallace sealed his fate with his recent starry-eyed interview with Dick Cheney. He came off as a writer for "Tiger Beat" with his incredible leading questions. The White House must have taken a leaf from that page when he signed off by thanking Cheney for putting up with an interview "from the likes of me." If he cannot or will not take himself seriously and act like a journalist instead of a right-wing Lapdog, then why would he expect the White House to take him seriously?”
Where Is That Online-Powered "Movement" Now?
Commented Sep 21, 2009 at 15:14:16 in Technology
“I for one never expected Obama to be a magic savior; in fact one aspect of his philosophy that was so encouraging to me was his focus on an inclusive approach. That in fact did work brilliantly for the campaign. I volunteered as a canvasser and was mightily impressed with the ground operation and the online interactive tools.
I agree with another poster who said every day life and concerns can be a juggling act. I think a lot of us dedicated personal time and financial donations to the campaign to a degree that isn't sustainable over time, but that doesn't mean civic spirit and a desire to be included is a flash-in-the-pan or dependent on a "personali ty." As a former city government employee I can guarantee that is far from the case, but it IS crucial that the organizational leadership has to stay on top of its game and be pro-active in capitalizing on the talents and resources of those of us who want to be involved in our communities.
As Mr. Hughes deftly stated, I don't want to be viewed as a piggy bank to fund media spots or a name to be solicited to sign petitions, especially if there is lack of clarity as to the strategy/goals. I do think Pres Obama needs to get more starch in his spine when it comes to standing up to the Republicans and corporate interests.”
I agree with another poster who said every day life and concerns can be a juggling act. I think a lot of us dedicated personal time and financial donations to the campaign to a degree that isn't sustainable over time, but that doesn't mean civic spirit and a desire to be included is a flash-in-the-pan or dependent on a "personali
As Mr. Hughes deftly stated, I don't want to be viewed as a piggy bank to fund media spots or a name to be solicited to sign petitions, especially if there is lack of clarity as to the strategy/goals. I do think Pres Obama needs to get more starch in his spine when it comes to standing up to the Republicans and corporate interests.”
Sever the Link Between Populism and Racism
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 22:00:55 in Media
“I will, thank you.”
New Rule: You Can't Complain About Health Care Reform If You're Not Willing to Reform Your Own Health
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 21:54:29 in Comedy
“Thanks for the chuckles. I would have loved to see video footage of the formidable Gillian McKeith ("You Are What You Eat") set loose on that crowd, yet the appalling state of our overall health is obvious no matter the venue.
We discuss reform in terms of INSURANCE at the expense of actual health CARE, food politics etc. Those who emphasize "personal responsibility" would suddenly cry foul if the "free market" system were to drop them like a hot potato for being couch potatoes, or tailor their rates by the pound. Perhaps that happens already -- I wouldn't be surprised. Yet poor lifestyle choices lead to so many chronic health conditions, and juvenile diabetes is on the increase.
Insurance companies are often penny wise and pound foolish (pun not intended). For example, years ago I had a mystery ailment that was still unresolved after expensive scans, ultrasounds x-rays and biopsy. My doctor finally decided to recommend surgery even without a solid diagnosis. I first saw an alternative practitioner who correctly diagnosed the problem as a particular mineral deficiency, helped me revise my diet and take supplements which ultimately solved the problem. The insurance company wouldn't cover the cost of this "alternative" treatment. Luckily I was able to afford to pay out of pocket, but that's not always an option for others. It's just one example of how ridiculously short-sighted the whole system is.”
We discuss reform in terms of INSURANCE at the expense of actual health CARE, food politics etc. Those who emphasize "personal responsibility" would suddenly cry foul if the "free market" system were to drop them like a hot potato for being couch potatoes, or tailor their rates by the pound. Perhaps that happens already -- I wouldn't be surprised. Yet poor lifestyle choices lead to so many chronic health conditions, and juvenile diabetes is on the increase.
Insurance companies are often penny wise and pound foolish (pun not intended). For example, years ago I had a mystery ailment that was still unresolved after expensive scans, ultrasounds x-rays and biopsy. My doctor finally decided to recommend surgery even without a solid diagnosis. I first saw an alternative practitioner who correctly diagnosed the problem as a particular mineral deficiency, helped me revise my diet and take supplements which ultimately solved the problem. The insurance company wouldn't cover the cost of this "alternative" treatment. Luckily I was able to afford to pay out of pocket, but that's not always an option for others. It's just one example of how ridiculously short-sighted the whole system is.”
gretchenart replied on Sep 18, 2009 at 22:34:38
“I had a similar experience--very high medical expenses for neurological scans and tests, etc. only to discover (on my own!) that it was a deficiency of Omega 3! As soon as I started taking Omega 3 supplements again, the numbness went away literally within hours. This after about $12,000 worth of tests, about half of which were covered. Then because of all the tests, they canceled my plan and raised my rates by 35%! If there were not so much focus on making the pharmaceutical companies rich by addicting and poisoning us via meds that ultimately make us sicker and more focus on safe, healthy whole REAL foods, we would be much better off!”
Sever the Link Between Populism and Racism
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 13:27:34 in Media
“Well stated.”
Head in the Sand?
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 12:43:17 in Politics
“And you could bet if it were McCain, there would be a percentage of people protesting with signs referring to him as aged and infirm, as they did during the campaign. And it would be just as wrong, and it would be just as effective in overshadowing the legitimate policy debate.”


