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It's Time Four Sanity

Commented Nov 10, 2010 at 14:51:02 in College

“Jeff your right, "people should be given the tools and knowledge to make their own decisions" — the point at which the American government, and the rest of the world seems to consider that decision making to be handed over from parent to individual is at around 18 years old.

This problem goes much deeper than Four Loko. There is an energy drink epidemic in this country, when fourteen year-olds flood 7/11 stores and scoop up as many Monsters as they can get their mitts on.

Energy drinks, whether stuffed inside a Four Loko or not, are aimed through marketing and promotions at minors.

These minors are not legally able to "make their own decisions" yet. They need to be protected from the billion dollar energy drink industry that's what our petition at http://thinkdrink.org is all about.”

DDSev on Nov 10, 2010 at 18:33:18

“LenoraNunez why don't you and your friends stop telling us what we can and cannot drink, for god's sake the drink is for people 21+, if someone above the age of 21 doesn't know whats good for them that's their problem.

This has nothing to do with minors, its for people ABOVE the age of 21...ADULTS”
EXCLUSIVE: Margaret Cho Talks 'Dancing With The Stars,' Prop 19 and Four Loko (VIDEO)

EXCLUSIVE: Margaret Cho Talks 'Dancing With The Stars,' Prop 19 and Four Loko (VIDEO)

Commented Nov 9, 2010 at 19:30:28 in Comedy

“As much as this is supposed to be funny, it's only funny in how close to true it is. Four Loko is a drug and it should be treated as one.

There is an energy drink epidemic in this country, it's time to stand up and say no more: http://thinkdrink.org
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It's Time Four Sanity

Commented Nov 9, 2010 at 19:26:53 in College

“"Four Loko is not some new, untested substance, and it's a far cry from meth, crack, even marijuana, which are illegal for valid reasons."

I hate to break it to you Jeff, but it is an untested substance and is only a far cry from the other substances you mention in terms of its widespread availability. There is an energy drink epidemic in this country that Four Loko and other alcospeeding drinks are capitalizing on.

My organization, http://thinkdrink.org was created to raise awareness about this growing problem threatening our youth. It is time to Think Before You Drink.

What aspect of our society is more important to protect than the safety of our children?”

FLF on Nov 19, 2010 at 14:33:44

“LenorNunez,

Last time I checked, legal drinking age was 21 in all states, three years older then the age when we legally become an adult. How is governing what I as a 32 year old adult protect the safety of our children?

I would love to see someone start an organization that would effectively protect the safety of our children by teaching them personal responsibility and the process of good decision making instead of teaching them that there is always someone or something else to blame for their poor choices and the ramifications of said poor choices.”

JStading on Nov 13, 2010 at 01:51:51

“"What aspect of our society is more important to protect than the safety of our children?"

Basic freedom.  Besides, this drink is already illegal for children, so your argument is nothing more than a red herring.”

MrUnlimited on Nov 10, 2010 at 06:52:25

“"What aspect of our society is more important to protect than the safety of our children?"

I'm sorry, but when people say they're doing things "for the children" I always cringe. The "children" are ADULTS. If you want to spot underage consumption of Four Loko, then that's a different story, but at the end of the day ADULTS should be allowed to do as they please with their own bodies. If you want to provide them with information regarding safe an unsafe behaviors, fine...but acting like the banning of substances is a good idea puts you at an ideological level akin to old school prohibitionists.”
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It's Time Four Sanity

Commented Nov 9, 2010 at 19:23:08 in College

“The only argument being made here is for people to automatically know the hidden dangers of a product that has been poorly tested by the FDA. Furthermore, Four Loko is only the latest in a slew of over caffeinated beverages that are aimed at a sub-25 demographic that taps into their urge to try the latest thing to mess themselves up.

These drinks are unsafe and speak to a greater energy drink epidemic in this country.”

WanderingPsychic on Nov 17, 2010 at 14:57:15

“Epidemic? Isn't that a little extreme? Surely there are more pressing social and political issues that deserve our attention than the "energy drink epidemic"... like poverty or war.”
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It's Time Four Sanity

Commented Nov 9, 2010 at 19:18:12 in College

“"If people really thought it was dangerous and it was directly injuring or killing people, consumers would stop buying it!"

That's completely untrue. Alcohol and tobacco are just the first two obvious examples that come to my mind. The biggest problem with Four Loko is that it, like 5 hour energy, packs such an enormous punch in such a small and easily consumable container. The caffeine levels of these products are off the charts and until the FDA can assess the possible health risks, it needs to be taken off the shelves.”

JStading on Nov 13, 2010 at 01:53:30

“"The biggest problem with Four Loko is that it, like 5 hour energy, packs such an enormous punch in such a small and easily consumable container"

24 ounce cans are hardly "small."

"The caffeine levels of these products are off the charts"

Two small cups of coffee worth of caffine isn't off the chart, unless you have a very small chart.”

hp blogger Jeff A. Katz on Nov 9, 2010 at 19:52:22

“But we allow alcohol and tobacco products to be used. We allow beer bongs to be sold so beer can be funneled and delivered to our bodies faster. Shot glasses are not meant for tiny servings of water.

With the flurry of articles warning against the dangers of the MISUSE of Four Loko (a synecdoche of alcohol in general) and the ingredients and warnings on the can label, don't you think people know the "hidden dangers" of the drink? Everyone learns smoking is bad for them from before they even learn their multiplication tables. No amount of "Truth" has stopped cigarettes. No amount of melanoma (or repeats of the Jersey Shore) has shut down tanning salons.

People should be given the tools and knowledge to make their own decisions. Yes, there is a lot of alcohol. Yes, there is a lot of sugar. Yes, there is a lot of caffeine. But if someone wants that, I don't see why someone else should be the one stopping them. Where do we draw the line between personal responsibility and excessive oversight? Nick Naylor's salient argument, "Perhaps Vermont Cheddar should come with a skull and crossbones," comes to mind.

I hope not -- I really, really love cheese.”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 8, 2010 at 14:15:49 in College

“As much as Milk might make people throw up, and as much as Think Before You Drink is somehow being painted as a prohibitionist group, what is being lost here is the prevalence of the energy drink epidemic among American youth.

It is wrong that government organizations require drinks like Monster to put "not recommended for children" on their labels, but somehow allow the drinks not only to be sold over the counter to them but also to be handed out for free at dirt biking and a million other competitions.

We've reached a point where it is no longer acceptable for these 8 Billion dollar per year companies to target children and teens who don't realize the health and long term effects of energy drinks.”
Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Commented Nov 8, 2010 at 14:06:21 in New York

“It won't pass without some serious restrictions and more states, like Michigan, beginning to ban it.

That's one thing our petition at Think Before You Drink is trying to do, we already have over a hundred signatures, so clearly other people are concerned about the energy drink epidemic that is infecting our youth.”
Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 18:01:33 in New York

“Four Loko is an energy drink, it just has alcohol in it as well.

Take the alcohol away and you still have Monster, which any kid can get his hands on. This isn't a joke, the energy drink epidemic is real and it's putting America's youth in danger.”

Skaterx999 on Nov 7, 2010 at 12:02:28

“It's the same as the special brews and snake eyes that came before it 10 years ago. It's a trend and will pass.”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 17:44:13 in College

“Every Four Loko drinker is making an increasingly poor decision by reaching for another. Just take a look at this guy — http://bit.ly/Four-Loko-Projectile

There is an energy drink epidemic and people need to Think Before They Drink!”

LenoraNunez on Nov 8, 2010 at 14:15:49

“As much as Milk might make people throw up, and as much as Think Before You Drink is somehow being painted as a prohibitionist group, what is being lost here is the prevalence of the energy drink epidemic among American youth.

It is wrong that government organizations require drinks like Monster to put "not recommended for children" on their labels, but somehow allow the drinks not only to be sold over the counter to them but also to be handed out for free at dirt biking and a million other competitions.

We've reached a point where it is no longer acceptable for these 8 Billion dollar per year companies to target children and teens who don't realize the health and long term effects of energy drinks.”

charles116 on Nov 6, 2010 at 01:55:38

“The problem is you still can't get jerks from ordering a RedBull and Vodka.
In my mid-twenties I was diagnosed a hypertensive, I will bet a lot of the hospitalized kid have undiagnosed med problems.”

JStading on Nov 5, 2010 at 18:04:11

“So what? This is akin to arguing that milk should be banned because people projectile vomit after drinking a gallon of it. (see e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl5EiERHJH0).

Prohibition has never worked, so I'm not sure why you're so intent on asking for it.”
Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Four Loko: Banned In Michigan, Promoted In New York [UPDATED]

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 15:29:39 in New York

“Whatever humor is trying to be achieved here is going to fall on unfortunate ears — there is an energy drink epidemic in this country and these drinks shouldn't be "promoted" or "stockpiled" in some cities while other states are banning it.

My organization is working to raise awareness about the dangers of energy drinks: http://thinkdrink.org

New York and the rest of the country need to wise-up to what Michigan did. I applaud them.”

orbro on Nov 5, 2010 at 17:43:38

“Sorry, I've never examined it.”

orbro on Nov 5, 2010 at 17:39:59

“Um, Four Loko isn't an energy drink and isn't really marketed as such beyond the bright labeling.”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 15:25:19 in College

“...as are energy drinks.”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 15:24:17 in College

“The lines of "choosing" always become blurred with the unhealthy options are the most accessible, attractive and cheap options.

This goes for energy drinks and unhealthy food choices. Not everyone has the luxury of "choice" there are time, will, budget, and proximity constraints.”

JStading on Nov 5, 2010 at 15:34:47

“"The lines of "choosing" always become blurred with the unhealthy options are the most accessible, attractive and cheap options."

Read: we support the free market, until people use it to make decisions we disagree with.”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 15:00:46 in College

“I don't think 8AM classes causes students to drink more energy drinks. The bottom line is that energy drinks already have "not recommended for children" on their warning labels (this includes drinks like Monster)...but all that does is making kids want to drink it more.

And kids have been killed.

Our mission at http://thinkdrink.org is to raise awareness of this energy drink epidemic that is now in full swing, whatever the cause, whatever the effect”
Michigan BANS Four Loko

Michigan BANS Four Loko

Commented Nov 5, 2010 at 14:07:35 in College

“Michigan is going to be a trend setter in this war against the energy drink epidemic. Sure right now the news is focusing on Four Loko and Joose, but the problem is deeper and it is aimed at our youth.

My organization is trying to curb the ease of access and youth-centric marketing of energy drinks — http://thi­nkdrink.or­g

We would love it if you would help sign our petition to the FDA for regulation against the sale to minors. While Four Loko is only sold to 21+ the energy drink problem is the bigger issue. I'm glad to see states taking a stance.”

ThEnder on Nov 5, 2010 at 14:51:59

“It's inane to try to legislate health and responsibility. If you want youth not to use energy drinks and the like, think about how you can reform educational and societal pressure such that their usage is less appealing. For example...it's well known that youth stay up late and wake up late, so why is class generally scheduled at 8 AM? Everything is about cause and effect.”
Drink Tax: Why We <em>Should</em> Tax Soda

Drink Tax: Why We Should Tax Soda

Commented Nov 3, 2010 at 13:59:38 in Home

“Taxes on beverages like soda and energy drinks will incentivize healthy alternatives.

My organization, Think Before You Drink, http://thinkdrink.org — focuses on raising awareness about regulating and potentially taxing energy drinks.

Although the effects of soda aren't as severe as energy drinks, they are more widespread and very detrimental to America's youth.”
Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Commented Nov 2, 2010 at 13:38:06 in Home

http://thinkdrink.org isn't a site that is out to "rule everyone else's life" it's a site to help people Think Before They Drink.

5 Hour Energy is sold right next to candy at convenience store cash registers. I'm not saying that these two things shouldn't be sold, I'm just saying there should be a little bit more care and consideration (and less direct appeal) towards their sale to minors.”

Dave C on Nov 23, 2010 at 17:53:06

“you are a liar. your whole site is about banning energy drinks. Then you have some "DR." giving an infomercial about his own energy drink.”

talkofliberty on Nov 3, 2010 at 01:23:21

“Minors are not allowed to drink. Kids will create these drinks and mix redbull and vodka or some other combination. There is not an issue, except mothers making this one.”
Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Commented Nov 1, 2010 at 21:04:26 in Home

“Neontom & Fred-

I'm not saying there isn't an element of personal responsibility & parenting to be considered here, but there is no denying that these drinks are aimed directly at the 15-25 year old demographic.

What my organization has been calling is something along the lines of what happened to Joe Camel, a little bit of regulation towards the accessibility and presentation of these energy drink & alcohol mixed products.

Think Before You Drink is meant to raise awareness about the energy drink epidemic, and that includes the out-of-control alcospeeding.

Here's a video our team put together last week in Los Angeles of a victim of the epidemic during an alcospeeding session: http://bit.ly/Joose-Projectile

talkofliberty on Nov 3, 2010 at 01:27:11

“How does putting a youtube video of a bum in his early 30s drinking relevant to society? This guy is not indicative of society.

You are making something out of nothing. Four Loko is just a drink. Prohibition causes violence and crime, no thanks.”
Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

Commented Nov 1, 2010 at 19:22:16 in Home

“This article is a great wake-up-call. But the effects of alcohol are even more fierce when paired with energy drinks — a growing trend among today's youth.

My organization is doing what it can to help people think before they drink — http://thinkdrink.org

Sign our petition to the FDA! Let's get Four Loko & Joose out of the hands of our youth. There is an energy drink epidemic.”

talkofliberty on Nov 1, 2010 at 22:57:34

“I can't stand people like you who feel you need to rule everyone else life because you know better. There is no epidemic,”

MFS001 on Nov 1, 2010 at 22:25:55

“No. The last thing we need is more laws banning stuff. Alcohol is already illegal for minors.”

Fred Butters on Nov 1, 2010 at 20:09:10

“Lenora
What a waste of time and money. You really think that because some underage, "inexperienced" drinkers name "Four LOKO" as the beverage that got them sick, that somehow banning it will make kids more safe? You need a dose of reality. This article is only a wake up call to someone who had no idea that people drink, people get drunk, and people get sick from drinking.”

Neontom69 on Nov 1, 2010 at 19:57:22

“They already have a law to "protect" youths from alcohol. It's that you have to be 21 years old to buy alcoholic beverages in every state. Banning something doesn't change behavior, it makes people more creative in getting what they want.
If you want "youths" not to drink, educate them properly when they're younger, show them good examples of responsible living, and allow them to make choices. If they make bad ones, help them in the right direction. Don't try to cover the planet in foam rubber so "the children" can't hurt themselves.
If your kid's got bad habits and makes bad choices, own up to it, 'cuz you raised 'em.”
Frank Bruni Ingests Four Loko So You Don't Have To

Frank Bruni Ingests Four Loko So You Don't Have To

Commented Nov 1, 2010 at 19:19:22 in Home

“Well it looks like more and more lightweights are putting themselves in harms way.

My organization is trying to curb the ease and youth-centric appeal of these drinks — http://thinkdrink.org

We would love it if you would help sign our petition to the FDA for regulation.”

shthar on Nov 1, 2010 at 22:20:16

“I'm too busy with my efforts to promote the Gin & Tonic.”
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 29, 2010 at 19:24:41 in College

“I have started a petition to help fight Alcospeed like the wild Four Loko & Joose beverages.

My organization is nearing our 100 mark (only 7 away). It would be great if you could add your name to the list of people who believe this stuff needs regulation — http://thinkdrink.org

There is an energy drink epidemic and it is time to think before you drink!”

Dave C on Nov 16, 2010 at 16:23:50

“Your tag line (think before you drink) and your cause seem to oppose one another. think before you drink is just good advice. I think it means to have a plan and know your limits. Great. Now if you go stuffing your nose in my business, where is most certainly does NOT belong, I will have issues with that. Do not tell me how to live or propose to know what is best for me (or anybody else other than your kids) Your website and cause is a joke. You probably dont have any experience with 4LOKO or any alcohol other than what you read online.

Guess what. I dont want or need a health advocate. And I think most lawyers are at least corrupt and hide behind the guise of working for the law. Although it does not say what kind of law you practice.

How about some research. I don't see any on your site. Just anecdotes. How much research have you done? I bet 0. NONE.

I was actually fairly neutral about this until I saw your adverstisement for your site. So have a good day and stay out of my business.”

LogicalMathMan on Nov 14, 2010 at 18:44:54

“Ms Nunez,

I am humbled by your activism. Thanks! Fan #11”

StephBr on Nov 6, 2010 at 02:46:39

“I'm with you on that one, I signed your petition.”

WVWNEWS on Nov 5, 2010 at 02:09:11

“Nah, American malt energy drinks don't need regulation. Mexicans need regulation. We don't owe you anything, and you are the drunkest country in this hemisphere! The only "regulation" it needs is do I want 1/2 a can or 1 can? IT'S UP TO ME!”
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 27, 2010 at 23:55:14 in College

“I'm not sure but my organization is trying to do something about it. Please sign our petition to the FDA to do something about the alcospeed problem — http://thinkdrink.org
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 27, 2010 at 23:53:15 in College

“My organization is trying to raise awareness about this problem, which, like obesity, is putting millions of Americans at risk.

Don't be alarmed but there is an energy drink epidemic — http://thi­nkdrink.or­g

I support any decision to remove the alcospeed. Taking the chance to take a stance and paving the way for others to do so is good.

I'm happy the Huffington Post is giving the issue attention.”
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 27, 2010 at 19:26:25 in College

“Don't panic, but there is an energy drink epidemic.

We are 13 signatures away from getting our petition to the commissioner of the FDA. Please take a moment and help the cause — http://thinkdrink.org

Thanks and remember to think before you drink energy drinks (with or without alcohol).”

Hank Hall III on Oct 27, 2010 at 19:34:52

“Be sure to send some cash along with your signatures, if you know what I mean.”
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 27, 2010 at 19:24:16 in College

“Whatever their reasons, the accessibility of these substances is a genuine problem, especially the Alcospeed. Energy drinks without alcohol are harmful to kids and shouldn't be sold to minors. Energy drinks with this high level of alcohol should be banned, bottom line.”
The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

The Lowdown On Four Loko: By The Numbers

Commented Oct 27, 2010 at 18:35:42 in College

“The obesity epidemic is right in the same vein as the energy epidemic, I couldn't agree more. However, despite gains on a micro level by a parent by parent case, if good diet choices (i.e. not fast food) were incentivized by our government, perhaps that could funnel the change away from a fat, unhealthy public.

The same is true on the energy drink front. The energy drinks with alcohol especially (alcospeed) are truly remarkably bad for you. We must stand united against such easy distribution and consumption of them by individuals who don't know better.”

garystartswithg on Oct 27, 2010 at 20:51:30

“I understand you completely, I really do -- I back your opinion 180%, but we don't have a Roosevelt to save us from ourselves, we have to do the job ourselves.”

IgnoranceKills on Oct 27, 2010 at 18:45:05

“Are you going to work to make mixing hard liquors with energy drinks and/or pop regulated too?

LoL. Go away.”
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