LiteSleeper's Comments (329)

“No, you don't count because you never get involved. Why should those of us in the so-called "far left" do all of the work to get these democrats elected, (i.e. phone bank, canvass, research, donate money and time) only to have them get in there and do nothing we wanted them to do? Why don't Democrats actually believe in their convictions once they get elected? Since we always lose by getting all mushy and milquetoast trying to appease the other side, why not just this once you all listen to us and start pushing through the agenda that was campaigned on?”

“Again, another post from a so-called Liberal that makes no sense. One more time: an individual mandate with no cost controls or public option is a disaster! It is literally the death of the Democratic Party. Why can't you see that? Are you really going to force people to buy something from the same group of thieves that already overcharges for next to nothing? And you seriously are not going to put any controls on these monsters? All I have to say is you can go ahead and do that, but in a year or two when people can't afford to buy insurance and they are getting fined for not doing so, they'll know exactly where to place the blame. And the insurance companies will only be second on that list.”

“I didn't think any of you mouthbreathers would want to claim any part of the Dubya travesty/legacy. I wouldn't be so boastful if I were you.”

“I agree. This person (SierraL) is just in love with the idea of Obama and that is supposed to suffice for the rest of us. As the FireDogLake poster puts it, "Who needs a public option when you have rhetoric? "”

“You got it! I don't know why this is rocket science to some people”

“How sloppy and lazy of you. If you had read my comment history you'd know I'm no pug. We're not going to get anywhere if Democrats start behaving like pugs and don't question or demand answers from our leaders. Obama has been lackadaisical at best when it comes to the major problems we face. Half-hearted, feet dragging "reforms" that just make middle class people poorer (i.e. individual mandate with no public option or cost controls) is not what we voted for. Maybe I should direct you here: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/10200 because this is the sentiment I think many of us on the so-called Left of the Left or the Democratic part of the Democratic party feel.”

“and beds made of our misery and tears”

“Are you going to keep saying crap like this when its 2 years, 3 years, or 4 years in? Wake up Obamabot! He's not doing what he said he'd do”

“Buddy you might be able to get away with that with someone who doesn't know history, but I do. All of the Dixiecrats became Repugs in the late '60's up until the early 1990's. Strom, Jesse, and all the rest of the gang. And your party loved and loves to play race baiting games, like Reagan beginning his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi with a speech about states rights. The same place where the events of Mississippi Burning take place. Or how about the Southern Strategy? Or how about Rush Limbaugh telling his nuts that Obama's health plan is nothing more than secret reparations for slavery? No sir, none of you is getting off the hook for the vile and contemptible things you all have done.”

“Lol Bingo!”

“I really don't have sympathy for any of you. People like you leveled much worse towards activists on the Left who were against this Iraq/Afghanistan fiasco from the beginning and who turned out to be right. You all blindly and lockstep as usual supported Bush and the Repug party and only raise a stink after they've done the damage and the guy coming in has to clean it up. And you still don't protest Bush! If you know he caused this why is it that Obama gets all of your vitriol? You're not taken seriously because you're not being serious.”

“They are different from me. I believe in the reality-based world where Repug policies caused the mess we're in. They believe in fantasy where just one more tax cut fixes everything.”

“What are they supposed to be called?”

“I definitely third it.”

“BS. None of you, not one single sorry one of you got this upset when Dubya put all of this into motion. You just cheered him on. You have no one to be angry at except yourselves and that's the real reason why you're so angry”

“No, I don't get the point either. They all left and went to your terrible party and kept fighting for segregation and against Civil Rights. What ARE you trying to say?”

“The comment was quite clear. The Miranda case obligates the state to give representation if someone can't afford their own attorney. If the state is providing the attorney then that means taxpayers are paying for the lawyer.”

“Excellent post! The Baucus bill is an unmitigated POS that needs to be flushed. I'm am so much more heartened now given the universal panning of this bill. Now I think people are finally starting to realize how central the Public Option truly is.”

“Your argument is specious. If the people benefiting from a massive tax cut decide to give a pittance more to a charity, it doesn't mean they used all of their tax cut money to give to charity. Beyond that, the charity would be more irrelevant in a society whose government was fully funded to provide the same services that charity is trying to partially provide. So who cares that you are giving slightly more to charity? That little amount does not compare to the vast amount that would have been provided before the massive tax cut.”

“I disagree Bob. I think this plan is worse than the current system since as Wendell Potter said yesterday it would force millions of Americans into crappier high deductible, bare bones plans and then penalize people who still can't afford to give up 13% of their income to the robber barons of the Health so-called "industry.­"”

“Alison, I agree that this spectacle is not truly important in the grand scheme of things, if it is taken in isolation. But this is symbolic of something more. We as Democrats need to stop turning the other cheek when the other side decides that our president is undeserving of the most basic modicum of respect. Even in the depth of the Bush Travesty when we knew he was a liar and a deceiver, no Democrat called him out on the floor of the House of Representatives and if anyone truly deserved it, it was he. What this episode represents is the time Democrats decide that the time for self reflection and self doubt that has plagued us from Vietnam to the present is over. It is time to believe in our principles of life and governance. That being a Liberal is a great thing, not something to speak of in hushed whispers. That to act guilty or afraid in the face of evil is de facto the same as being those things. That Democratic principles have saved this country time and again and we as Democrats should not feel the shame the Pugs want us to feel for believing that a man/woman should have a fair shot in life and that the worth of an individual is not tied to the amount they produce or the money they have but in the inestimable worth we are endowed with as Human beings and children of God. That's why.”

“There was a really good blog post by some guy on here that really went after Obama on being so weak in the face of these terrible Repugs and for always trying to find some middle position when in some cases there just aren't any. I'll have to get back to you. The thing you said about ruthlessness is exactly what he said, that's what made me think of it.”

“I beg to differ only in that I don't think you can count on African Americans to carry the party when most of us want the Public Option. IF we don't get it, what is there for us to defend next year? We'll have no reason, no impulse to come out and protect a great benefit. And please Obamabots, don't try and say we got the stimulus and the Ledbetter bill. Who cares? Health care is the big prize and the most consequential. If you can't get that right with these majorities you don't belong in power.”

“I believe I already said that. It works for me just fine if you all lose a whole bunch of seats. Then you'll learn to stop taking Progressive concerns lightly.”

“No, we'll just stay home. We don't have to vote for anybody. See how that works for you.”