“He's out of hiding now and on tv often. (just saw him Friday) So, to your point...swing and a miss.”
DIridescent on Apr 22, 2013 at 09:52:18
“The fact that the fatwa was lifted, and Rushdie survived, lends zero (nadda. zippo) credence to your assertion that religion or religious leaders (same thing) never explicitly condone violence.
I mean...c'mon...unless you are going to deny that a fatwa against Rushdie existed, which is absurd, you've got to admit that religion sometimes (as in the case of this particular fatwa) condones and encourages violence.
There's no way around that. Unless, as I mention, you deny that the fatwa existed.
But I don't have to just point to the fatwa against Rushdie to falsify your claim. It's ridiculously easy to with any number of commonly accepted facts. Would you deny, for instance, that al qaeda, obviously radical islamic organization, condones violence all the time? Of course it does. And if you really want to deny that, I can keep mentioning any number of additional religious leaders, from Imams throughout Iraq and Iran to a handful of Christian groups in various places in the world that that also explicitly condone violence. You'll just have to deny they exist, too. That's a lot of denial. ”
“Sad to say I agree with you. I've seen many a climate conversation brought to a screeching halt with the supposed hypocracy of the size of his house or his using an airplane to travel.
However, he's not the only person; just the first.”
“"He succeeded by suppressing the vote," Rove said, "by saying to people, 'You may not like who I am and I know you can't bring yourself to vote for me, but I'm going to paint this other guy as simply a rich guy who only cares about himself."
That is suppressing the vote? I thought it was called "campaigning".”
ishgirl on Nov 8, 2012 at 22:09:04
“It's campaigning when HE does it; it's suppression when someone else does it, apparently. Of course, REAL suppression is the hallmark of the GOP, so Rove is just playing a pity card and trying to save his posterior from the billionaire boys club who want to string him up for wasting some $400 million (or so) of their pocket change.”
“Actually, you're wrong about that - it is just heating up. Besides the return on investment is absolutely worth it. But, you speaking to someone who is getting ready to do this for a living along with at least 20 colleagues. So, thanks for playing...!”