LonesomeThunderbolt's Comments (90)
Lieberman's Medicare Flip-Flop Leaves Democrats Fuming
Commented Dec 14, 2009 at 22:35:03 in Politics
“Stan Greenberg hit the nail on the head in suggesting Lieberman is acting out his resentment against the Democratic Party for rejecting, even repudiating, him as its presidential candidate in 2004. But he was a saboteur well before that. Even before the 2000 Florida recount was concluded, Lieberman let it be known that he would be taking the oath for his Senate seat rather than hold out a bit longer to see if he might be taking the oath for vice president. (Connecticut law allowed him to run for vice president and for re-election to the Senate simultaneo usly.) Also, his "debate" with Dick Cheney during the 2000 campaign struck many observers as looking more like a lovefest than a campaign debate.”
Lieberman Pledges To Filibuster House Bill "As A Matter Of Conscience" (VIDEO)
Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 00:39:36 in Politics
“No doubt financial ties keep Lieberman in the insurance industry's pocket. But deeper motives lie behind his treachery. Lieberman has been a GOP Trojan Horse since he was Al Gore's running mate in 2000. Remember his "debate" with Dick Cheney that was widely described as a lovefest.
During the Florida recount, Lieberman undercut the Democrats by supporting GOP claims that overseas military ballots for Florida (likely to benefit Bush) were not being counted. Even before the Supreme Court ended the recount, Lieberman made known his intention to be in Washington to be sworn in as Senator. (Connecticut law allowed him to run for vice president and for re-election to his Senate seat.)
Lieberman believed being the vice presidential nominee entitled him to be the 2004 presidential nominee. Out of step with most Democrats on the Iraq war, his campaign was a dismal failure. He went on to lose the Senate Democratic primary in 2006. Because Connecticut allows "sore-loser candidates" to run as independents, and after the Bush White House appealed to Connecticut Republicans to dump own their weak and discredited candidate, Lieberman held onto his Senate seat.
Despite Lieberman's massive betrayal in endorsing John McCain, Democrats thought they could still do business with him. Surely now they know the truth. Lieberman's threat to filibuster Obama's most important domestic political goal is clear evidence that he intends to bring down the Obama presidency. The Democrats need to move against Lieberman--and do it now.”
During the Florida recount, Lieberman undercut the Democrats by supporting GOP claims that overseas military ballots for Florida (likely to benefit Bush) were not being counted. Even before the Supreme Court ended the recount, Lieberman made known his intention to be in Washington to be sworn in as Senator. (Connecticut law allowed him to run for vice president and for re-election to his Senate seat.)
Lieberman believed being the vice presidential nominee entitled him to be the 2004 presidential nominee. Out of step with most Democrats on the Iraq war, his campaign was a dismal failure. He went on to lose the Senate Democratic primary in 2006. Because Connecticut allows "sore-loser candidates" to run as independents, and after the Bush White House appealed to Connecticut Republicans to dump own their weak and discredited candidate, Lieberman held onto his Senate seat.
Despite Lieberman's massive betrayal in endorsing John McCain, Democrats thought they could still do business with him. Surely now they know the truth. Lieberman's threat to filibuster Obama's most important domestic political goal is clear evidence that he intends to bring down the Obama presidency. The Democrats need to move against Lieberman--and do it now.”
Joseph Cao: Voting For Health Reform Was "A Decision Of Conscience" (VIDEO)
Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 12:15:18 in Politics
“Who are we kidding here? Cao's vote for the health reform bill is based on the same political calculation as most of those Blue Dog Dems who voted against the bill. They're all looking at 2010 and what they need to do to get re-elected. The Democratic opponents are in Republican-leaning districts that mostly voted for McCain in 2008. Cao's district is largely African-American and heavily Democratic, and his election there as a non-Africa n-American Republican was probably a fluke. If he is to have any hope of being re-elected, he sure can't be seen lining up with John Boehner against Barack Obama's number one domestic priority. And guess what else: the Republicans will go all out to help Cao keep his seat, despite his voting for this Democratic bill. Even if he votes against his party on every bill from now to Nov. 2010, the one vote the GOP can count on will be his vote to make Boehner Speaker if the Repubs come back in 2010.”
TheSpider replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 12:19:44
“That's a very very big "IF". he GOP is not coming back for some time. Maybe 10-20 years. Lucky for America.”
graymatters replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 12:18:46
“I so agree and am one of those tea party people that you guys like to make fun of. It has nothing to do with R or D it has to do with lifelong politicians who have never been in the private sector to get a check working 9-5 but yet they know better than you and me.”
Gibbs Won't Rule Out Second Stimulus
Commented Feb 17, 2009 at 23:05:23 in Politics
“At some point when Democrats have had enough of the Republicans' harangue about the stimulus "spending spree," maybe a few Democrats will have the guts and integrity to point out that the Iraq war will end up costing three times as much as the stimulus bill by the time all the residual costs of war are paid off.”
Rashnak replied on Feb 17, 2009 at 23:11:30
“and what about the residual costs of the stimulus? Programs that will continue for the forseable future with no funding mechanism. .. shouldn't you compare apples to apples?”
desertman replied on Feb 17, 2009 at 23:06:52
“Today anyway.”
Israel Masses Troops, Tanks For Possible Ground Invasion
Commented Dec 28, 2008 at 17:33:01 in World
“The U.S. reaction to Israel's attack on Gaza defies all reason. It is as though a baby in a high chair throws some food at his stepfather, and the stepfather responds by beating the baby unconscious with a baseball bat. Bush and Obama weigh in that the baby must stop throwing food but say nothing to
restrain the stepfather from beating the child. It is a scenario that would shock even the most callous observer. Bush and Obama would be condemned for failing to protect a victim while enabling the victimizer in child abuse.”
restrain the stepfather from beating the child. It is a scenario that would shock even the most callous observer. Bush and Obama would be condemned for failing to protect a victim while enabling the victimizer in child abuse.”
Israel Assaults Hamas In Gaza
Commented Dec 27, 2008 at 23:00:31 in World
“No, Cheney is still the president.”
Israel Assaults Hamas In Gaza
Commented Dec 27, 2008 at 18:00:44 in World
“Israel thinks by massacring as many people as its warplanes are capable of that it can beat the Palestinians into submission. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Israel is only building a legacy of hatred toward itself and its U.S. patron who bankrolls and gives diplomatic cover to barbaric Israeli attacks on a desparate subject people. Palestinians are suffering greatly from Israeli atrocities, but Israel will gain nothing from its campaign of state terror.”
Al Qaeda No. 2 Calls Obama Racial Epithet
Commented Nov 19, 2008 at 17:59:03 in Politics
“Not to defend al-Zawahri, but what he said about Obama is virtually identical to what Harry Belafonte said about Colin Powell in October 2002 as the Bush administration was in a headlong rush to get the Iraq war started. I don't recall what Belafonte said described as a "racial epithet" against Powell. These things should be kept in context.”
North Carolina Called For Obama
Commented Nov 06, 2008 at 16:56:38 in Politics
“Having contributed to and worked for Obama in North Carolina, I am heartened that my state has broken loose from its red-state shackles. But it's not enough to keep NC blue or even color more southern states blue. To break out of the "red state/blue state" trap once and for all, we need the National Popular Vote (NPV) plan. Participating states who join an interstate compact would agree to cast all their electoral votes for the winner of the national popular vote, effectively creating a direct nationwide popular vote for president. NPV would take effect once enough states with 270 electoral votes join. Last year, the North Carolina Senate passed NPV, and next year will see a big push to pass NPV in both chambers of the NC legislature. NPV will make every vote equal and make every state a purple state.”
Obama seeks landslide; McCain says he's far left
Commented Oct 31, 2008 at 15:49:48 in Politics
“Schwarzenegger is wrong that McCain "came back and got nominated. " As conservative columnist Robert Novak put it, McCain "was the last man standing" among some pretty marginalized contenders at the end of the GOP primary. This time, there's someone else "still standing," and that person is standing a lot taller and a lot more solidly than McCain.”
TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads
Commented Oct 26, 2008 at 11:58:47 in Media
“Brokaw let McCain make one blatant misstatement about today's Reuters/Zogby poll that has Obama down to a 5-point lead. McCain said "a 3-point gap today in Zogby." Brokaw had to have known that was wrong but he said nothing to correct it. It follows McCain's pattern of deliberately misstating obvious facts and getting a pass from certain media allies.”
krocklin replied on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:57:05
“It's a bigger lie than that. The Zogby poll did have the race closer than any of the other polls - but that was a week or two ago.
This week the Zogby poll has Obama ahead by 10%, not 5% or the 3-4% McCain stated.
But then again he says Obama has said he will raise taxes on people making $42k and Brokaw says nothing to challenge that lie.
According to Palin she was cleared of any hint of ethical wrongdoing too.”
This week the Zogby poll has Obama ahead by 10%, not 5% or the 3-4% McCain stated.
But then again he says Obama has said he will raise taxes on people making $42k and Brokaw says nothing to challenge that lie.
According to Palin she was cleared of any hint of ethical wrongdoing too.”
Brian187 replied on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:28:16
“McCain could care less...3, 5, 30 points...h e's got Obama right where he wants him.”
Thinking-It-Through replied on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:10:17
“It also follows a disturbing Brokaw pattern of high-fiving Candidate McCain. Brokaw seems to lavish his role as emissary to the McCain campaign and he seemed proud of his bias at the end of this joke of a show (a tragic shame for the work and memory of Tim Russert) by declaring Senator Obama went back on his promise to take public financing for the campaign. Despicable.”
Gmoney1 replied on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:05:06
“McCain's walls starting falling quite a while ago and all those Kings Horses can't put those walls back together again -”
rich misty replied on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:02:40
“As of October 26, 8:00AM EDT: Obama: 360 McCain: 178 Meta-margin: Obama +7.5%
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^ This is the "University Poll" Karl was ranting about ;)
http://ele ction.prin ceton.edu/ 2008/10/14 /get-on-th e-bus/
It is time to show the GOP what a tactic is:
http://www .senategur u.com/”
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Obama Rally In St. Louis Draws 100,000 (VIDEO, SLIDESHOW)
Commented Oct 18, 2008 at 18:54:42 in Politics
“100,000 people and I bet not one yelled "kill him" or "off with his head" or "traitor" or any such threat against McCain. Maybe this is why they call Missouri the "show me" state.”
McCain Camp Ramps Up Press War Over "Joe The Plumber" Coverage
Commented Oct 17, 2008 at 12:42:06 in Politics
“The incident with Greensboro reporter Joe Killian was not mentioned in the New & Record's coverage of the Palin rally in nearby Elon College. Don't know why but it wasn't in their own story.”
John Lewis Warns McCain: You're "Sowing The Seeds Of Hatred And Division"
Commented Oct 12, 2008 at 00:00:15 in Politics
“Has the "Straight-Talk Express" turned into the "Hate-Talk Express."”
uclafan replied on Oct 12, 2008 at 00:06:35
“yup yup”
Bush On Financial Crisis: It's A Good Thing I'm In Charge
Commented Oct 11, 2008 at 18:58:38 in Politics
“"...he was glad it was happening under his presidency, because he had a good group of people in D.C. working for him..."
And they're "doin' a heckuva job."”
And they're "doin' a heckuva job."”
AP: Palin's Ayers Attack "Racially Tinged"
Commented Oct 05, 2008 at 13:25:21 in Politics
“He is also off on "House" UnAmerican Activities Committee. Joe McCarthy was a Senator. But then again, Joe Biden can make the mistake of thinking FDR "went on television" after the 1929 stock market crash four years before he was president.”
McCain Gets Testy With Des Moines Register
Commented Oct 01, 2008 at 12:48:42 in Politics
“It's hard to believe McCain would have any quarrel with the paper after David Yepsen's fawning column asserting that he "won" last week's debate with Obama. Most of the reaction was disbelief, many commenters asking if Yepsen was "watching the same debate" that everyone else did.”
George Will: Palin Is Not Qualified
Commented Sep 30, 2008 at 23:25:26 in Politics
“What if there's more Machiavellian intrigue to the Palin pick than any of us realize. Knowing his campaign badly needs a game-changer, McCain startles the political world by choosing Palin. She fires up the dispirited conservative base and turns out large enthusiastic crowds in the campaign's final stretch. Knowing she's ill-prepared, the campaign would keep Palin shielded from the media but pump her with just enough facts to get through a vice presidential debate. Even if she flops, her adoring fans still love her. Then right after the election, Palin follows the Kathleen Parker script and makes the selfless decision to forgo the vice presidency to devote more time to her family. McCain is free to appoint as vice president--guess who--Joe Lieberman.”
littlerabbit replied on Sep 30, 2008 at 23:37:51
“That might make a little sense if McCain weren't self-imploding on his own.”
McCain Gambles In Effort To Regain The Offensive
Commented Sep 24, 2008 at 16:06:20 in Politics
“Wait a minute. Isn't the first debate supposed to focus on foreign policy? So, how would that interfere with working cooperatively on the economic crisis? If McCain and Obama want to agree to a brief suspension of advertising, and maybe even campaigning, nothing wrong with that. But there is absolutely no reason or justification to stop the debate Friday night.”
The Palin And McCain Administration: Sarah Flips The Ticket During A Rally (VIDEO)
Commented Sep 18, 2008 at 20:03:59 in Politics
“And Obama thought he might need a food-taster with Hillary as veep.....”
DeeV replied on Sep 18, 2008 at 20:11:40
“haHaHaHa.. .Good One”
renatam replied on Sep 18, 2008 at 20:07:16
“Women who are honest w/ourselves KNOW these women. Sarah Palin should not become VP.”
McCain Meant To Reject Spain Meeting, Adviser Says
Commented Sep 18, 2008 at 14:40:06 in Politics
“He does appear to be "ducking" the question. It's the same tact McCain took when asked how many houses he owns. It would be better to appear not to know than to be recorded on camera saying he owns 6 or 7 or 8 or how ever many houses he has. It may look like he wasn't sure who Zapatero is, or whether Spain is in the Americas or Europe. But McCain knew what he was doing. He isn't willing to commit to meeting with leaders "who are not our friends." And he apparently considers Zapatero in that category for pulling out of Iraq 4-1/2 years ago, even though Spain has troops in Afghanistan. Unbelievable!”
How To Understand Sarah Palin: The Issues, Not Biography
Commented Sep 08, 2008 at 22:37:17 in Politics
“Forget analyzing Sarah Palin. Democrats need to borrow a line from Ronald Reagan and start asking, "Are you better off today than you were eight years ago." Make George Bush the center of their campaign focus and carry right through to election day..”
Barack Obama On "The O'Reilly Factor": Surge Has "Succeeded Beyond Our Wildest Dreams"
Commented Sep 05, 2008 at 12:47:49 in Media
“I have contributed money to Obama and done volunteer work in his campaign. But I am mystified why he would tell O'Reilly that the surge has "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams" and not repeat his conclusion that the Iraq war was "a strategic blunder."
Last spring, Obama had deftly maneuvered McCain to the losing side of the "experience" vs. "judgment" argument on Iraq. Obama had shown "judgment" in knowing Iraq would be a sinkhole, while McCain's "experience" helped push the country into a war with disastrous consequences. McCain seems to have turned the tables on Obama, arguing that Obama "lacks judgment" for not supporting the surge and thus is "too inexperienced" to be commander-in-chief.
With the stock market dropping 345 points and the jobless rate reaching record highs, why didn't Obama remind O'Reilly of the $10-$12 billion being thrown away every month on a misbegotten war? If the economy is the issue most on voters' minds, Obama needs to spend the remaining weeks until Nov. 4 hammering home the message that Iraq was not only a military and foreign policy disaster, but an economic one as well.”
Last spring, Obama had deftly maneuvered McCain to the losing side of the "experience" vs. "judgment" argument on Iraq. Obama had shown "judgment" in knowing Iraq would be a sinkhole, while McCain's "experience" helped push the country into a war with disastrous consequences. McCain seems to have turned the tables on Obama, arguing that Obama "lacks judgment" for not supporting the surge and thus is "too inexperienced" to be commander-in-chief.
With the stock market dropping 345 points and the jobless rate reaching record highs, why didn't Obama remind O'Reilly of the $10-$12 billion being thrown away every month on a misbegotten war? If the economy is the issue most on voters' minds, Obama needs to spend the remaining weeks until Nov. 4 hammering home the message that Iraq was not only a military and foreign policy disaster, but an economic one as well.”
MaynardGK replied on Sep 05, 2008 at 14:08:14
“"Beyond our wildest dreams"
Its a political retreat akin to the wearing of the flag lapel, ok drill some, ... The republican echo chamber wishes to find some clearly defined difference and hammer on it as if its a great wedge issue. The logic is irrelevant, as long as you can pounce with it loudly enough. Backtracking on the nuanced position you were attempting to defend is a mild flip that allows conversation to proceed.”
Its a political retreat akin to the wearing of the flag lapel, ok drill some, ... The republican echo chamber wishes to find some clearly defined difference and hammer on it as if its a great wedge issue. The logic is irrelevant, as long as you can pounce with it loudly enough. Backtracking on the nuanced position you were attempting to defend is a mild flip that allows conversation to proceed.”
Dailyfare replied on Sep 05, 2008 at 13:01:05
“You should actually listen to what he's saying:
1. The surge has worked to reduce violence
2. The goal of the surge was to create an environment in which the Iraqi government takes responsiblity; in this respect, surge has not been successful; and usually "success" means that the goal has been accomplished.
This is what he's been saying all along. It makes sense.”
1. The surge has worked to reduce violence
2. The goal of the surge was to create an environment in which the Iraqi government takes responsiblity; in this respect, surge has not been successful; and usually "success" means that the goal has been accomplished.
This is what he's been saying all along. It makes sense.”
Obama Raises $10 Million After Palin Speech
Commented Sep 04, 2008 at 22:47:52 in Politics
“He needs to be saying it a whole lot more than I've been hearing it.”
Obama Raises $10 Million After Palin Speech
Commented Sep 04, 2008 at 22:12:56 in Politics
“If the economy is the issue most on voters' minds, why isn't Obama talking more about the $10-$12 billion being squandered each and every month on the Iraq war? Obama calls Iraq "a strategic blunder." So why isn't he making the connection between the hundreds of billions thrown at a misbegotten war while the stock market tanks 345 points and the unemployment rate continues a steep rise?
Last spring, Obama maneuvered McCain to the losing side of the "experience" vs. "judgment" argument on Iraq. He deftly contrasted his own "judgement" that Iraq could be a sinkhole against McCain's "experience" that helped drag us into an unneccesary war that arguably has gained the U.S. nothing. Now McCain seems to have turned the tables on Obama, arguing that Obama "lacked the judgement" to support the surge and thus is "too inexperienced" to be commander-in-chief.
The surge may be partly responsible for bringing a measure of stability to Iraq. But if the Bush-McCain team may finally be pulling the bus out of the ditch, that’s not the point. It's that we never should have driven into the ditch in the first place. Obama needs to use the remaining weeks before Nov. 4 to pound home the message that Iraq is not just a military and foreign policy disaster, but an economic one as well.”
Last spring, Obama maneuvered McCain to the losing side of the "experience" vs. "judgment" argument on Iraq. He deftly contrasted his own "judgement" that Iraq could be a sinkhole against McCain's "experience" that helped drag us into an unneccesary war that arguably has gained the U.S. nothing. Now McCain seems to have turned the tables on Obama, arguing that Obama "lacked the judgement" to support the surge and thus is "too inexperienced" to be commander-in-chief.
The surge may be partly responsible for bringing a measure of stability to Iraq. But if the Bush-McCain team may finally be pulling the bus out of the ditch, that’s not the point. It's that we never should have driven into the ditch in the first place. Obama needs to use the remaining weeks before Nov. 4 to pound home the message that Iraq is not just a military and foreign policy disaster, but an economic one as well.”
Shea4O replied on Sep 04, 2008 at 22:38:30
“He did say that in his acceptance speech.... ...”
ruthinking replied on Sep 04, 2008 at 22:20:01
“Obama HAS talked about the costs of the Iraq "war." He will end the war, a first step to getting us out of the financial morass that the Republicans put us in.”
Star2000dancer replied on Sep 04, 2008 at 22:16:02
“McCain now ready to give his speech. Let's. now how long can he keep'em wanting a military government & make sure we're always at awr or in an occupation somewhere. ...?”
fignozzle replied on Sep 04, 2008 at 22:15:15
“that is precisely what he did this very evening on oreilly.”


