“... Have you heard Dr. Mattson before? Zaid Shakir, prior to the video linked in this article? Suhaib Webb? Hamza Yusuf? Sherman Jackson? Yasir Qadhi? And those are just the "big name" leaders that come off the top of my head -- there are countless other less prominent leaders who have resoundingly denounced aggressive violence as being justifiable or religiously legitimate and who have contributed to building an educated, strong community on a whole other path.
This media presence you speak of ... it is not what you think. Most things said and done? Most people who speak? No one is beaming that into your homes. If you want to know why, the proper people to ask are the ones bringing you the news. Believe me ... actually getting press coverage in the first place is another subject that has been heavy for a decade.”
Jan Allen McDaniel on Mar 16, 2011 at 15:36:34
“Shaykh Hamza Yusuf endorses--in this lecture by Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah sponsored by the Zaytuna Institute--non-integration and non-assimilation of American Muslims while patiently growing Muslim political strength in America--the "abode of treaty":
"The issue of the abode is this: most people think that the world is divided into two abodes, the abode of peace and the abode of war. The abode of peace is the land of the Muslims, daar al-Islam, and the abode of war is everywhere else.
There are three abodes: there is the abode of peace, the abode of war, and then there is the abode of treaty where there is a contractual agreement between two abodes.
For instance, when I came into this country, they issued me a visa, and I signed something. In the issuance of the visa and my signing of it, a legally binding contract occurred which was a sulih. It was an agreement that when I came into this country, I would obey the laws and would follow the restrictions that this visa demanded that I follow. This was a contractual agreement that is legally binding according even to the divine laws. In looking at this, we have to understand that the relationship between the Muslims living in this land and the dominant authorities in this land is a relationship of peace and contractual agreement-of a treaty."
“You realize there are estimated to be fewer than six million muslim people spread throughout the whole of the United States, right? The logistics of a huge, massive, singular demonstration are not even remotely realistic. What is realistic is what Dr. Mattson indicates above -- muslims working within their own communities and on outreach alike.
As for why you don't hear more like what is written here, ask yourself where you've been looking and to whom you've been listening. As a Muslim American myself I can say the whole of the past ten years of discourse I have witnessed within and coming out of the Muslim American community has been heavy with condemnation of terrorism as well as cultural and theological developments which provide a structured alternative.”
Oct 4, 2010 at 20:24:37
“Oh look. Relatively anonymous commentators on the internet layer a multitude of misogyny on top of whatever all it is Ms. Love has going on all on her own. How ... well, actually how not surprising at all.”
stilts on Oct 4, 2010 at 23:18:49
“Hey Gloria Steinham, loosen up baby! Don't be so uptight.”
“The internet, and specifically the English language internet, and specifically the selection of people attracted to read this one site within the English language internet, is hardly "a reflection of the people of the world."”
“The widow of suicide in me is frankly more offended by the notion of "pushing someone to suicide" than by anything else in this piece. And as a stalwart opponent of the war with Iraq from the start, that's saying something.”
“I actually quite agree about the general undesirability of the proposed project itself, as in my experience a great many American Muslims do. But as for the project itself being responsible for tearing at the fabric of much of anything at all ... it's like blaming the building that sits atop a sinkhole for its own collapse.
The fact is supporters of the project in my experience, or at least Muslim supporters, are heavily not *supporters of the project.* Many of us don't care a bit about it. Some of us were no fans of Rauf and/or Khan to begin with either. But we've been drawn into this game of chicken in which supporting Park51 isn't about supporting Park51 the construction and is entirely about standing up to or backing down in the face of those who would (and do) harp on anything to do with Muslims representing the "Islamization" of America.
This project provided focus and momentum to something that was already there. The only thing it is doing to the fabric of the city, or the nation, is showing what a strained and threadbare fabric it is that we've been wearing as if they were king's clothes.”
Feb 25, 2010 at 10:16:11
“Here's a key question for the interfaith movement: how do we introduce the Omar Hammami's of the world to the Martin Luther King Jr. path before Osama bin Laden introduces them to the Al Qaeda path?"
Here is a better key question: How do you propose to engage in this dialog at all when you can not be bothered to present an "al Qaeda alternative" example which does not rely on the frankly rather tired implication that the only and best examples for Muslims would be to turn to icons of modern American Christianity for inspiration? Your job is not to introduce anyone to Martin Luther King, Jr., inspiring man though he may have been. Your job is to know and support the -- frankly ample -- examples already present in the Muslim community.”