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Get Ready for the Obama/GOP Alliance
Commented Nov 26, 2009 at 01:06:27 in Politics
“Obama and Rahm Emanuel have made the Blue Dogs stronger. After the last few months, the Blue Dogs' campaign coffers have been beefed up from contributions from Big Insurance. Obama and Rahm Emanuel, and the rest of the DLC-Democrats have helped Blue Dogs keep their seats in the next election. They are flush with cash and will be harder to take out.
This is not a fluke, not a mistake, not unintentional. I've talked about this since the DLC seized control of the Democratic Party in the late 1980s.
Their intention is to move the Democratic Party to the right by alienating, marginalizing, breaking up the different interest groups within the liberal base of the Democratic party (civil libertarians, anti-war, pro-choice, etc.), drive them out of the party and bring moderate Republicans (both politicians who can't deal with the Republican Party's base, the evangelical Christians, who are controlling their party and moderate Republican voters, like Susan Eisenhower) into the Democratic Party. To have a centrist party which would govern for 100+ years.
This was the Clintons' plan (and why I think Bill Clinton was so angry with Obama) because Obama stole the plan with a minor change -- Obama is going for a couple of special interest groups within the Republican Party in a bigger way (defense industry hawks) and one of which Clinton could never hope to bring over (Christian Republicans).”
This is not a fluke, not a mistake, not unintentional. I've talked about this since the DLC seized control of the Democratic Party in the late 1980s.
Their intention is to move the Democratic Party to the right by alienating, marginalizing, breaking up the different interest groups within the liberal base of the Democratic party (civil libertarians, anti-war, pro-choice, etc.), drive them out of the party and bring moderate Republicans (both politicians who can't deal with the Republican Party's base, the evangelical Christians, who are controlling their party and moderate Republican voters, like Susan Eisenhower) into the Democratic Party. To have a centrist party which would govern for 100+ years.
This was the Clintons' plan (and why I think Bill Clinton was so angry with Obama) because Obama stole the plan with a minor change -- Obama is going for a couple of special interest groups within the Republican Party in a bigger way (defense industry hawks) and one of which Clinton could never hope to bring over (Christian Republicans).”
ECJLA replied on Nov 26, 2009 at 15:49:20
“Marcospinelli:
Actually it was Gary Hart's plan, at least implicitly articulated in his writings and (near miss) 1984 Democratic presidential campaign. And, in his iteration, it didn't involve the DLC and the concomitant complete sell-out of the better facets of the Democratic Party's heritage (FDR through LBJ).
The Clintons and Paul Kirk (opportunisitically) founded the DLC (1985) to exploit the (arguable) political opening represented Hart's 1984 success in the Dem presidential primaries and by the coaltion you refer to.
I personally believe (having worked with him personally to some extent) Hart would have implemented the "plan" of which you speak with a bigger tent and considerably more respect for the liberal wing of the party.
Hart's version of the "plan" also differed enormously in foreign policy. Hart wanted America to really work with Russia following the Cold War to create a better world. He and Gorby might well have done so, at least so to some degree. I suspect they would have peaceably defused both the Balkans and Middle East.
Having said that, the whole project of aligning moderates of both major parties into an enduring American version of Britain's New Labor, was and is a naive, foolish and soulless political chimera. For many reasons, the center simply cannot hold. But that's another discussion.
Eric C. Jacobson
Public Interest Lawyer
Culver City, California”
Actually it was Gary Hart's plan, at least implicitly articulated in his writings and (near miss) 1984 Democratic presidential campaign. And, in his iteration, it didn't involve the DLC and the concomitant complete sell-out of the better facets of the Democratic Party's heritage (FDR through LBJ).
The Clintons and Paul Kirk (opportunisitically) founded the DLC (1985) to exploit the (arguable) political opening represented Hart's 1984 success in the Dem presidential primaries and by the coaltion you refer to.
I personally believe (having worked with him personally to some extent) Hart would have implemented the "plan" of which you speak with a bigger tent and considerably more respect for the liberal wing of the party.
Hart's version of the "plan" also differed enormously in foreign policy. Hart wanted America to really work with Russia following the Cold War to create a better world. He and Gorby might well have done so, at least so to some degree. I suspect they would have peaceably defused both the Balkans and Middle East.
Having said that, the whole project of aligning moderates of both major parties into an enduring American version of Britain's New Labor, was and is a naive, foolish and soulless political chimera. For many reasons, the center simply cannot hold. But that's another discussion.
Eric C. Jacobson
Public Interest Lawyer
Culver City, California”
While Senators Denounce Medicaid, The Uninsured Turn To Charity
Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 22:45:57 in Politics
“People mistakenly believe that Obama&Democrats want public health care.
If TheBushYears taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the R0ve machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep impeaching Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.”
If TheBushYears taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the R0ve machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep impeaching Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.”
ron46032 replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 01:16:56
“The torches and pitchforks are waiting for 2010. These Dems already know they are lame and will be vanquished. Anything done today can be undone tomorrow.”
BruceHNV replied on Nov 22, 2009 at 23:59:01
“OK, genius. They "know how to do it" do they? Pray tell - how is that?”
Health Care Rationing: Why the "R" Word is a Red Herring
Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 22:44:37 in Politics
“People mistakenly believe that Obama&Democrats want public health care.
If TheBushYears taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the R0ve machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep impeaching Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.”
If TheBushYears taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the R0ve machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep impeaching Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.”
letsbepeaceful replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 10:23:24
“You've posted this on other articles. I do not get what the connection is to this article, or to the other ones you've pasted this into.
What exactly is your point?”
What exactly is your point?”
What I Like (And Hate) About Sarah Palin
Commented Nov 22, 2009 at 00:14:40 in Politics
“"She is fearless. To quote Oliver North, she is a woman many would "follow up any hill"."
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You would be charging up that hill thinking she's up there ahead of you, only to get your head blown off.
She would be back at the hotel getting a massage and a pedicure.”
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You would be charging up that hill thinking she's up there ahead of you, only to get your head blown off.
She would be back at the hotel getting a massage and a pedicure.”
Another Look at Stupak-Pitts
Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 23:55:04 in Politics
“GWU Study: Yes, The Stupak Amendment Would End Coverage Of Abortion Services Over Time
In view of how the health benefit services industry operates and how insurance product design responds to broad regulatory intervention aimed at reshaping product content, we conclude that the treatment exclusions required under the Stupak/Pitts Amendment will have an industry-wide effect, eliminating coverage of medically indicated abortions over time for all women, not only those whose coverage is derived through a health insurance exchange. As a result, Stupak/Pitts can be expected to move the industry away from current norms of coverage for medically indicated abortions. In combination with the Hyde Amendment, Stupak/Pitts will impose a coverage exclusion for medically indicated abortions on such a widespread basis that the health benefit services industry can be expected to recalibrate product design downward across the board in order to accommodate the exclusion in selected markets.
http://www.gwumc.edu/sphhs/departments/healthpolicy/dhp_publications/pub_uploads/dhpPublication_FED314C4-5056-9D20-3DBE77EF6ABF0FED.pdf
The insurance industry would reach a tipping point, where it would no longer be financially viable for them to offer abortion coverage in their health plans.”
In view of how the health benefit services industry operates and how insurance product design responds to broad regulatory intervention aimed at reshaping product content, we conclude that the treatment exclusions required under the Stupak/Pitts Amendment will have an industry-wide effect, eliminating coverage of medically indicated abortions over time for all women, not only those whose coverage is derived through a health insurance exchange. As a result, Stupak/Pitts can be expected to move the industry away from current norms of coverage for medically indicated abortions. In combination with the Hyde Amendment, Stupak/Pitts will impose a coverage exclusion for medically indicated abortions on such a widespread basis that the health benefit services industry can be expected to recalibrate product design downward across the board in order to accommodate the exclusion in selected markets.
http://www.gwumc.edu/sphhs/departments/healthpolicy/dhp_publications/pub_uploads/dhpPublication_FED314C4-5056-9D20-3DBE77EF6ABF0FED.pdf
The insurance industry would reach a tipping point, where it would no longer be financially viable for them to offer abortion coverage in their health plans.”
What Was Newsweek Thinking? (updated)
Commented Nov 19, 2009 at 04:03:12 in Media
“What Palin's been doing is no different than what Katherine Harris did. Do you remember this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOC2cl3slI
http://theopinionmill.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/katherine-harris.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/11/07/2003999451.jpg
Both of these are women with absolutely no credentials or abilities to govern or for public service, but are desperate for the attention and power that go with public service jobs in government. They won't do the real work that's necessary to become qualified, choosing instead to use s3xual wiles to try to get the job.
She posed for photos, no matter what the publication. She's the one who put on pantyhose, running shorts and make-up, made sure every hair was in place, then stretched provocatively as camera captured it all for everyone to see.
About the father of her daughter's child, she says, "Heartbreaking", and "aspiring porn" for doing what she writes about her own husband in her book:
That day in sunny Texas when the divorce rumors were rampant in the tabloids, I watched Todd, tanned and shirtless, take the baby from my arms and walk him back to the ranch house so Trig could nap while I made calls. Seeing Todd's blue eyes smiling, I chuckled. 'Dang,' I thought. 'Divorce Todd?' Have you seen Todd?''
It's a freakin' Harlequin romance novel.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOC2cl3slI
http://theopinionmill.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/katherine-harris.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/11/07/2003999451.jpg
Both of these are women with absolutely no credentials or abilities to govern or for public service, but are desperate for the attention and power that go with public service jobs in government. They won't do the real work that's necessary to become qualified, choosing instead to use s3xual wiles to try to get the job.
She posed for photos, no matter what the publication. She's the one who put on pantyhose, running shorts and make-up, made sure every hair was in place, then stretched provocatively as camera captured it all for everyone to see.
About the father of her daughter's child, she says, "Heartbreaking", and "aspiring porn" for doing what she writes about her own husband in her book:
That day in sunny Texas when the divorce rumors were rampant in the tabloids, I watched Todd, tanned and shirtless, take the baby from my arms and walk him back to the ranch house so Trig could nap while I made calls. Seeing Todd's blue eyes smiling, I chuckled. 'Dang,' I thought. 'Divorce Todd?' Have you seen Todd?''
It's a freakin' Harlequin romance novel.”
What Was Newsweek Thinking? (updated)
Commented Nov 19, 2009 at 03:59:24 in Media
“What was Newsweek thinking??!?? What was Sarah Palin thinking when she posed for the Runners' World photos less than 6 months ago? They weren't in any kind of context to running. It was pure cheesecake, straight out of pageant-land. That photo shoot struck me then as a woman screaming for help, having absolutely no idea what she was doing with her life, but knew she definitely didn't want to be where she was (in Alaska, as governor). Her quitting days after the magazine was published came as no surprise to me. But she's always seemed a confused walking contradiction. What woman who wants to be taken seriously appears in public wearing these?: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qsjlYtt8u4E/SM80l1SsUHI/AAAAAAAABhY/VA7DtElAlh4/s400/NaughtyMonkeyShoesPalin.JPG
She's got a FRENCH PEDICURE! Nobody should know that about someone who wants to be a heartbeat away from the president.”
She's got a FRENCH PEDICURE! Nobody should know that about someone who wants to be a heartbeat away from the president.”
jeanrenoir replied on Nov 19, 2009 at 07:42:09
“What was Palin thinking? The only thing the barracuda has thought since high school: How can I use my sexiness to claw my way ahead in this world? Palin's a very familiar American type: The small town "sex bomb" on the make. It's obvious, she's incredibly shameless and tacky, and with the white mob which worships the stilletos she walks on, it works like a Hugh Hefner charm.”
Marcospinelli replied on Nov 19, 2009 at 04:03:12
“What Palin's been doing is no different than what Katherine Harris did. Do you remember this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOC2cl3slI
http://theopinionmill.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/katherine-harris.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/11/07/2003999451.jpg
Both of these are women with absolutely no credentials or abilities to govern or for public service, but are desperate for the attention and power that go with public service jobs in government. They won't do the real work that's necessary to become qualified, choosing instead to use s3xual wiles to try to get the job.
She posed for photos, no matter what the publication. She's the one who put on pantyhose, running shorts and make-up, made sure every hair was in place, then stretched provocatively as camera captured it all for everyone to see.
About the father of her daughter's child, she says, "Heartbreaking", and "aspiring porn" for doing what she writes about her own husband in her book:
That day in sunny Texas when the divorce rumors were rampant in the tabloids, I watched Todd, tanned and shirtless, take the baby from my arms and walk him back to the ranch house so Trig could nap while I made calls. Seeing Todd's blue eyes smiling, I chuckled. 'Dang,' I thought. 'Divorce Todd?' Have you seen Todd?''
It's a freakin' Harlequin romance novel.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOC2cl3slI
http://theopinionmill.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/katherine-harris.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/11/07/2003999451.jpg
Both of these are women with absolutely no credentials or abilities to govern or for public service, but are desperate for the attention and power that go with public service jobs in government. They won't do the real work that's necessary to become qualified, choosing instead to use s3xual wiles to try to get the job.
She posed for photos, no matter what the publication. She's the one who put on pantyhose, running shorts and make-up, made sure every hair was in place, then stretched provocatively as camera captured it all for everyone to see.
About the father of her daughter's child, she says, "Heartbreaking", and "aspiring porn" for doing what she writes about her own husband in her book:
That day in sunny Texas when the divorce rumors were rampant in the tabloids, I watched Todd, tanned and shirtless, take the baby from my arms and walk him back to the ranch house so Trig could nap while I made calls. Seeing Todd's blue eyes smiling, I chuckled. 'Dang,' I thought. 'Divorce Todd?' Have you seen Todd?''
It's a freakin' Harlequin romance novel.”
The Third Annual Huffington Post "Tell Us What You're Cooking For Thanksgiving This Year That You Didn't Cook Last Year"
Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 15:42:02 in Style
“Roasting brussels sprouts turns them into an almost sweet confection:
1 to 2 lb. brussels sprouts
3-4 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, enough to coat sprouts
kosher salt
black pepper, freshly ground
Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.
Cut off the stem ends on the brussels sprouts and pull off any loose outer leaves. Rinse in cold water, drain and pat dry on clean kitchen or paper towels.
Place brussels sprouts in a bowl and toss them with the olive oil, salt and pepper. Spread them in a single layer on a sheet pan and roast for 35 to 40 minutes, until crisp on the outside and tender and creamy on the inside. Turn the sprouts over during the roasting to caramelize evenly.
Serve immediately.
Roasting vegetables:
Add any or all of these other vegetables to the baking sheet with the brussels sprouts: Carrots, yellow onions, beets, parsnips, whole unpeeled garlic bulbs. Cut them to the same size as the brussels sprouts to insure even cooking.”
1 to 2 lb. brussels sprouts
3-4 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, enough to coat sprouts
kosher salt
black pepper, freshly ground
Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.
Cut off the stem ends on the brussels sprouts and pull off any loose outer leaves. Rinse in cold water, drain and pat dry on clean kitchen or paper towels.
Place brussels sprouts in a bowl and toss them with the olive oil, salt and pepper. Spread them in a single layer on a sheet pan and roast for 35 to 40 minutes, until crisp on the outside and tender and creamy on the inside. Turn the sprouts over during the roasting to caramelize evenly.
Serve immediately.
Roasting vegetables:
Add any or all of these other vegetables to the baking sheet with the brussels sprouts: Carrots, yellow onions, beets, parsnips, whole unpeeled garlic bulbs. Cut them to the same size as the brussels sprouts to insure even cooking.”
jrocklin replied on Nov 18, 2009 at 00:52:05
“You don't have to get rid of the "loose outer leaves". We roast them, too--the end up like brussel sprout " chips. Yum.”
The Third Annual Huffington Post "Tell Us What You're Cooking For Thanksgiving This Year That You Didn't Cook Last Year"
Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 00:24:54 in Style
“LOL!”
Liberal Elitism Will Make Sarah Palin President - How Only Union Organizing Can Stop It
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 21:48:52 in Politics
“What Mike Elk is saying is it's the smart people who should keep being reasonable, back down so that bad policies that have destroyed the middle class and from which there may be no return) can continue instead of the ig.no.rants realizing they need to listen to left, who have brought the country back time and time again.
Mike Elk, it's you in "the middle" who will be responsible for a Sarah Palin getting into the White House.”
Mike Elk, it's you in "the middle" who will be responsible for a Sarah Palin getting into the White House.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 22:29:24 in Denver
“What's Stupak's objection to the Hyde amendment?”
clevelandchick replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 23:29:02
“Methinks Stupey was just playing for his C-Street pals. The fundies have invaded the Democratic Party.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-show-bart-stupaks-c-street-g”
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-show-bart-stupaks-c-street-g”
bajed replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 23:26:50
“My understanding is that the Hyde amendment would not be able to stop back door appropriations for abortion via affordability credits.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 22:27:11 in Denver
“The bills have no cost controls either.
As an old liberal Democrat who broke ranks with the DLC Democrats years ago, I said long ago that If Democrats could get away with forcing all Americans into for-profit insurance policies, they'd do it and insist that they got us universal health care.
Lo and behold.”
As an old liberal Democrat who broke ranks with the DLC Democrats years ago, I said long ago that If Democrats could get away with forcing all Americans into for-profit insurance policies, they'd do it and insist that they got us universal health care.
Lo and behold.”
clevelandchick replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 23:34:36
“When you're right, you are right. Dems are so screwed right now though.....next cycle they are going to lose seats and scratch their heads and try to go even farther right to get a voter or two.....meanwhile they've left the rest of our votes on the table.
I'm done. Voting for these liars means nothing.”
I'm done. Voting for these liars means nothing.”
nurseattorney replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 23:32:13
“Hard to believe that the Democratic Party even wants to be associated with this billion dollar give away to the insurance companies. By 2013, when the bill becomes due and it's obvious what a disaster this bill is, all the Democrats in Congress who were so proud of this "historic landmark legislation" will be acting like they weren't even present for the vote.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 22:20:16 in Denver
“You're 22 years old. You have no idea about the needs of a grown adult woman who finds herself in a situation where she finds herself with an unwanted pregnancy - Unwanted for any reason at all.”
babeltek replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 01:16:02
“I know the situation when it happened to my best friend at 17. And many other people I knew as a teenager. Attacking me for my age is just bad argumentation. And certainly not the seeds of any further discussion with you. Good day.”
SonofLiberty1 replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 22:46:10
“I'm 52 years old and I have been a responsible adult.
Why can't you be a responsible adult too?
And why is it that you want me to pay for abortions?
Not over my body which is alive and well and not dead yet.”
Why can't you be a responsible adult too?
And why is it that you want me to pay for abortions?
Not over my body which is alive and well and not dead yet.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 21:26:53 in Denver
“"It is quite clear that private supplemental coverage for abortions is allowed as long as it is not paid for by federal funds. The amendment states such funding can come from individuals, local and state governments (as long as it is not from Medicaid which receives federal matching dollars.)"
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That's hospitals and all facilities that receive Medicaid funding, like Planned Parenthood.
I've never seen such ig.no.rance and open h@tred for women than those who are commenting here in favor of Stupak and/or anti-choice. To see so much of it coming FROM women means we have a very cr@zy and sick nation.
It's an outrage that the original commenter thinks that women should have to buy riders to cover gynecological care. Where is their activism then about requiring men to have to get riders to cover vasectomies, p3nile implants, Vi@gra, treatment for erectile dysfunction, etc.? How about riders to cover automobile accident injuries, since men so disproportionately wreck their cars?
When women find themselves in a position of needing an abortion, it's nothing that they planned. It's either an accident (and one that doesn't happen frequently or seldom more than once) or becomes necessary because something has gone horribly wrong with a wanted pregnancy.”
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That's hospitals and all facilities that receive Medicaid funding, like Planned Parenthood.
I've never seen such ig.no.rance and open h@tred for women than those who are commenting here in favor of Stupak and/or anti-choice. To see so much of it coming FROM women means we have a very cr@zy and sick nation.
It's an outrage that the original commenter thinks that women should have to buy riders to cover gynecological care. Where is their activism then about requiring men to have to get riders to cover vasectomies, p3nile implants, Vi@gra, treatment for erectile dysfunction, etc.? How about riders to cover automobile accident injuries, since men so disproportionately wreck their cars?
When women find themselves in a position of needing an abortion, it's nothing that they planned. It's either an accident (and one that doesn't happen frequently or seldom more than once) or becomes necessary because something has gone horribly wrong with a wanted pregnancy.”
CCreek replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 22:19:11
“"When women find themselves in a position of needing an abortion, it's nothing that they planned. It's either an accident (and one that doesn't happen frequently or seldom more than once) or becomes necessary because something has gone horribly wrong with a wanted pregnancy."
This is incredibly incorrect. Per the Guttmacher Institude, almost half of all pregancies in the U.S. are "accidents" -- hardly infrequent. And about 40% of those are ended in abortion. As for "seldom more than once" -- in any given year, an estimated 47% of women having abortions in the U.S. have had at least one previous abortion.
You are accusing others of being ig.noo.rant", but you are grossly misrepresenting the truth.”
This is incredibly incorrect. Per the Guttmacher Institude, almost half of all pregancies in the U.S. are "accidents" -- hardly infrequent. And about 40% of those are ended in abortion. As for "seldom more than once" -- in any given year, an estimated 47% of women having abortions in the U.S. have had at least one previous abortion.
You are accusing others of being ig.noo.rant", but you are grossly misrepresenting the truth.”
babeltek replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 22:03:49
“The only people who ever "need" an abortion are those whose pregnancy becomes life-threatening for themselves, the baby, or both.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!
Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 03:11:42 in Living
“And I'm older than you.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!
Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 03:00:15 in Living
“Did Bush govern from the middle? No.
If the Bush years taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics.
It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the Rove machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep the impeachment of Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that "America is a center-right country" and they, Democrats, are merely inept. But we should keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives because Republicans would be worse.
Obama is just more low-key about doing the same things that Bush did.”
If the Bush years taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics.
It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the Rove machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep the impeachment of Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that "America is a center-right country" and they, Democrats, are merely inept. But we should keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives because Republicans would be worse.
Obama is just more low-key about doing the same things that Bush did.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!
Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 02:58:07 in Living
“"In practical terms, you can only govern from the middle, because that is where the majority of Americans are, morally, politically and socially."
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Not true. That's the big fallacy put forth by Establishment Elites.
More Americans agree with liberal positions on issues. That is, of course, when they're not told that they're "liberal positions" -- That's how propagandized the word 'liberal' has been.”
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Not true. That's the big fallacy put forth by Establishment Elites.
More Americans agree with liberal positions on issues. That is, of course, when they're not told that they're "liberal positions" -- That's how propagandized the word 'liberal' has been.”
Marcospinelli replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 03:11:42
“And I'm older than you.”
Marcospinelli replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 03:10:08
“Do you remember the thousands of photographs of t0rture & abuse that Obama pledged he would release, then flip-flopped on?:
10/22/09: Congress passed legislation that gives the Defense Department the authority to suppress evidence of its own misconduct.
In an unprecedented move, Congress passed legislation Tuesday including an amendment which would maintain one of the most contentious hangovers of the Bush administration, allowing the Department of Defense to exempt torture photos of US detainees overseas from public access under Freedom of Information Act requests.
An amendment sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, slashes a huge hole in FOIA. Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) was a key figure in stopping Lieberman's photo suppression bill the first time around. Slaughter explained that this time, the provision was slipped into the Homeland Security spending bill during the conference between House and Senate negotiators -- "apparently under direct orders from the Administration."
http://www.truthout.org/1022095
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143322/outrage:_house_sneakily_passes_bill_banning_release_of_photos_showing_detainee_abuse/
Is Obama going to sign it, veto it or pocket veto it (do nothing, just let it sit and in 10 days it becomes law)?”
10/22/09: Congress passed legislation that gives the Defense Department the authority to suppress evidence of its own misconduct.
In an unprecedented move, Congress passed legislation Tuesday including an amendment which would maintain one of the most contentious hangovers of the Bush administration, allowing the Department of Defense to exempt torture photos of US detainees overseas from public access under Freedom of Information Act requests.
An amendment sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, slashes a huge hole in FOIA. Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) was a key figure in stopping Lieberman's photo suppression bill the first time around. Slaughter explained that this time, the provision was slipped into the Homeland Security spending bill during the conference between House and Senate negotiators -- "apparently under direct orders from the Administration."
http://www.truthout.org/1022095
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143322/outrage:_house_sneakily_passes_bill_banning_release_of_photos_showing_detainee_abuse/
Is Obama going to sign it, veto it or pocket veto it (do nothing, just let it sit and in 10 days it becomes law)?”
Marcospinelli replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 03:00:15
“Did Bush govern from the middle? No.
If the Bush years taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics.
It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the Rove machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep the impeachment of Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that "America is a center-right country" and they, Democrats, are merely inept. But we should keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives because Republicans would be worse.
Obama is just more low-key about doing the same things that Bush did.”
If the Bush years taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics.
It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.
Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the Rove machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep the impeachment of Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?
Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.
The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that "America is a center-right country" and they, Democrats, are merely inept. But we should keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives because Republicans would be worse.
Obama is just more low-key about doing the same things that Bush did.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!
Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 01:08:51 in Living
“Id-jit, I'm one of the oldest liberal Democrats you'll ever come across in these parts.
Obama's a fraud. He's a pro-corporate DINO. A DLCer. Do you know what and who the DLC is?
I recommend that before you try to wade into any more of these discussions, you do some homework and find out.”
Obama's a fraud. He's a pro-corporate DINO. A DLCer. Do you know what and who the DLC is?
I recommend that before you try to wade into any more of these discussions, you do some homework and find out.”
billbb replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 02:33:14
“In practical terms, you can only govern from the middle, because that is where the majority of Americans are, morally, politically and socially. It is we progressives who have failed to shift the boundaries of the debate, not the president, who is leaning about as far to the left as he can. That an idea like improving public health would be such a debate shows just how fearful people are after the lies of the right, that we have not effectively neutralized.
I would love to see us make all kinds of changes to undo the errors of the past, but you have to do it in the middle of a functioning system. Breaking everything will bring about Exactly the chaos the right suggests... Needs... Wants! Is that what you want? A power grab by the right if we do fail?
You will fall into the same litmus-test pit the Republicans are in now with this DINO stuff. Compromise is built into the very framework of our Constitution just as is the senate being the more deliberative, long-view body. Yes, this makes real change come frustratingly slow. It also keep a gang of paranoid screwups like the last bunch from destroying everything. And that makes it worth the trouble.
And I am probably older than you, being shockingly close to Medicare.”
I would love to see us make all kinds of changes to undo the errors of the past, but you have to do it in the middle of a functioning system. Breaking everything will bring about Exactly the chaos the right suggests... Needs... Wants! Is that what you want? A power grab by the right if we do fail?
You will fall into the same litmus-test pit the Republicans are in now with this DINO stuff. Compromise is built into the very framework of our Constitution just as is the senate being the more deliberative, long-view body. Yes, this makes real change come frustratingly slow. It also keep a gang of paranoid screwups like the last bunch from destroying everything. And that makes it worth the trouble.
And I am probably older than you, being shockingly close to Medicare.”
Mr. President: I Challenge You To Quit!
Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 00:08:24 in Living
“The key to quitting smoking is the same key that is making Obama's a failed presidency: He hasn't made up his mind to quit.
Once you do, once you make up your mind, the way forward becomes crystal clear. Once you decide that you are no longer going to smoke, anytime a nagging urge starts tapping you on your shoulder, as soon as you become conscious of it you immediately confront it, and say, "NO!" and "Next!" And then you move on to something else.
Obama's playing too many political games, entertaining compromises when he won the election and had the mandate necessary to move forward with single payer universal healthcare. He wastes time figuring out the odds of playing this one off against that one, which has empowered Republicans and Blue Dogs, all the while gaming the strategy so that it delivers to the corporations instead of to the American people.
Either that was his intent all along, or he's just inept. Whatever the reason, it's the American people who have turned out the losers.”
Once you do, once you make up your mind, the way forward becomes crystal clear. Once you decide that you are no longer going to smoke, anytime a nagging urge starts tapping you on your shoulder, as soon as you become conscious of it you immediately confront it, and say, "NO!" and "Next!" And then you move on to something else.
Obama's playing too many political games, entertaining compromises when he won the election and had the mandate necessary to move forward with single payer universal healthcare. He wastes time figuring out the odds of playing this one off against that one, which has empowered Republicans and Blue Dogs, all the while gaming the strategy so that it delivers to the corporations instead of to the American people.
Either that was his intent all along, or he's just inept. Whatever the reason, it's the American people who have turned out the losers.”
IDIOTA replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 01:08:29
“I agree, and I wish did not.
On a lighter note, the President is rhythmically challenged, that is, he is a lousy dancer. As a biracial, uh, black, person who cannot dance, I feel for him.
Maybe the President can quit smoking and learn how to dance. When he feels the urge to smoke, he can bust a move instead. Perhaps he can use the anger that accompanies smoking cessation to fight for the American people if he is so inclined.”
On a lighter note, the President is rhythmically challenged, that is, he is a lousy dancer. As a biracial, uh, black, person who cannot dance, I feel for him.
Maybe the President can quit smoking and learn how to dance. When he feels the urge to smoke, he can bust a move instead. Perhaps he can use the anger that accompanies smoking cessation to fight for the American people if he is so inclined.”
billbb replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 00:34:44
“I love hearing this stuff from you guys...
If he's bold, forceful and decisive, he is failing to compromise, not living up to promises of bipartisanism, and trying to ram his ideas down everyone's throat and take over everything. If he does try to take the time to work quietly with the Republicans, he's weak and indecisive. He's a nazi. He's a socialist. He's a communist. He's a foreigner. He's an elitist. He's a philatelist. Geez!
Look, we know this has been tough on you. You folks on the right are still in the grieving process. Why don't you sit down and decide once and for all which complaint you want to stay with. We'll give you about another 7 years to decide before Hillary runs.”
If he's bold, forceful and decisive, he is failing to compromise, not living up to promises of bipartisanism, and trying to ram his ideas down everyone's throat and take over everything. If he does try to take the time to work quietly with the Republicans, he's weak and indecisive. He's a nazi. He's a socialist. He's a communist. He's a foreigner. He's an elitist. He's a philatelist. Geez!
Look, we know this has been tough on you. You folks on the right are still in the grieving process. Why don't you sit down and decide once and for all which complaint you want to stay with. We'll give you about another 7 years to decide before Hillary runs.”
Speaker Pelosi: Please Stop Bullsh*ting Us on Dropping State Single Payer Amendment
Commented Nov 06, 2009 at 19:32:32 in Politics
evekendall replied on Nov 06, 2009 at 21:27:03
“I'm going to help spread that one around. Harman is always talking out of both sides of her mouth.”
Obama's First Year: It Ain't No Crystal Staircase
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 18:26:42 in Politics
“This is what went wrong in America -- A White House Completely Off-Message, Out in the Weeds:
Do you see where Obama is today, what he's talking about?
Is he talking to the people about how a strong climate bill is both vital for the environment and creating jobs? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education in Madison, Wisconsin:
"Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
"We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
Tonight, he and Michelle will be "celebrating classical music".
This is a joke of a presidency -- All empty rhetoric, speeches, no substance, but plenty of photo-ops and partying. If you want to track Obama, his daily schedule:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/”
Do you see where Obama is today, what he's talking about?
Is he talking to the people about how a strong climate bill is both vital for the environment and creating jobs? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education in Madison, Wisconsin:
"Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
"We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
Tonight, he and Michelle will be "celebrating classical music".
This is a joke of a presidency -- All empty rhetoric, speeches, no substance, but plenty of photo-ops and partying. If you want to track Obama, his daily schedule:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/”
brooklyncitizen replied on Nov 04, 2009 at 19:06:16
“I think you are onto something. However the focus on education is important but yes he doesn't appear to be in the trenches the way he was when camapaigning.”
Clever Screen Name replied on Nov 04, 2009 at 19:01:13
“Nonsense. The "full force of the bully pulpit"? What does that even mean? You can't blame the guy for his oratory and then complain that he's not speaking forcefully at the same time. The speeches and interviews and news conferences are omnipresent. More bully pulpit is not the answer because our system has to contend with lobbyists, conservative Ds, and powerful corporations who DON'T WANT THINGS TO CHANGE.
Take up your anger where the actual pressure points are -- the handful of Dems in Congress stopping the agenda, the corporations stopping the agenda.”
Take up your anger where the actual pressure points are -- the handful of Dems in Congress stopping the agenda, the corporations stopping the agenda.”
anthonyve replied on Nov 04, 2009 at 18:58:48
“Yeah, right! How dare he ask Americans to get off of their fat B###ts, quit their whining and do something to improve their own situation.
How wicked is that?”
How wicked is that?”
Pupadup4oBama replied on Nov 04, 2009 at 18:43:23
“Is it his job to use the bully pulpit? Is it his job to do what congress is supposed to be doing for us?
After reading the story on the front page about the couple who got in trouble with their mortgage lender because they were illiterate, I'd say edumukashun is a pretty important topic to discuss.”
After reading the story on the front page about the couple who got in trouble with their mortgage lender because they were illiterate, I'd say edumukashun is a pretty important topic to discuss.”
Make No Mistake, Tuesday's GOP Surge Was About Obama
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 18:24:40 in Politics
“This is what went wrong in America -- A White House Completely Off-Message, Out in the Weeds:
Do you see where Obama is today, what he's talking about?
Is he talking to the people about how a strong climate bill is both vital for the environment and creating jobs? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education in Madison, Wisconsin:
"Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
"We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
Tonight, he and Michelle will be "celebrating classical music".
This is a joke of a presidency -- All empty rhetoric, speeches, no substance, but plenty of photo-ops and partying. If you want to track Obama, his daily schedule:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/”
Do you see where Obama is today, what he's talking about?
Is he talking to the people about how a strong climate bill is both vital for the environment and creating jobs? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education in Madison, Wisconsin:
"Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
"We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
Tonight, he and Michelle will be "celebrating classical music".
This is a joke of a presidency -- All empty rhetoric, speeches, no substance, but plenty of photo-ops and partying. If you want to track Obama, his daily schedule:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/”
NCAV2 replied on Nov 04, 2009 at 19:43:46
“Exactly. This is a president that doesn't know where his priorities are.”
Make No Mistake, Tuesday's GOP Surge Was About Obama
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 16:50:12 in Politics
“The polls, especially yesterday's exit polling, are useless in that they ask "Do you support Obama's policies" of people who haven't a clue what his policies are.
ObamaCare: WHAT IS IT?
Obama doesn't support public health care, yet the disinformation from the White House is "He does/He doesn't". So when polls ask, "Do you support ObamaCare?", what does the answer really tell you?”
ObamaCare: WHAT IS IT?
Obama doesn't support public health care, yet the disinformation from the White House is "He does/He doesn't". So when polls ask, "Do you support ObamaCare?", what does the answer really tell you?”
Obama Is Timid Because Progressives Are Timid
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 15:18:51 in Politics
“Do you see where Obama is right now?
Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education. He's saying, "Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
And, "We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
We were played, big time.”
Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education. He's saying, "Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
And, "We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
We were played, big time.”
Obama Is Timid Because Progressives Are Timid
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 15:17:31 in Politics
“Do you see where Obama is right now?
Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education. He's saying, "Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
And, "We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
This is a joke of a president.”
Is he twisting arms on a public option? Is he using the full force of the bully pulpit to drive re-regulating banks and business? Is he taking the case to the people, educating the ig.no.rants who say they don't want socialized medicine, don't want the government taking over healthcare, but "Don't touch my Medicare!"
No.
He's giving a speech on education. He's saying, "Parents must set the bar high in the household."
"Students should take more responsibility".
And, "We must do better job recruiting new teachers".
This is a joke of a president.”
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