“Lessee - who would God be more disgusted with? Gay people making no claim to Jesus, or His own representatives turning the Truth to a lie to turn the world away from His "only begotten Son"? To whom does He say "I never knew you". NOT "sinners" or gay people! To religious people who do not truly know Him. Why did He say this? Because these religious had the Letter - but did not have the Spirit of Love, Joy, Goodness, Kindness, Gentleness, Peacefulness, Faithfulness, Patience and Self-Control. If you do not know He majorly modified the Old Testament to Love, Joy, Goodness, Kindness, Gentleness, Peacefulness, Faithfulness, Patience and Self-Control and the priority now His Kingdom that IS these qualities - if you advocate harming ANYONE you advocate the opposite and you do not truly know Him. Those religious like you will be crying "Lord Lord" - and He will say "I never knew you". Bring your swimmers and tanning oil!”
talkstocoyotes on Jun 10, 2012 at 15:43:58
“**Lessee - who would God be more disgusted with? Gay people making no claim to Jesus, or His own representatives turning the Truth to a lie to turn the world away from His "only begotten Son"?**
That might be trumped by the Creator's reaction to someone who heard a call for the government to kill a group of people who had done him no harm and rationalized it: Hate is love. War is peace. Slavery is freedom.”
Louis William Rose on Jun 6, 2012 at 11:55:24
“There is no such thing as "gay people" all are the same, all are sinners. Your error it seems to me is that you refuse to admit that homosexuality is a sin. It is of course, because God has said that it is, and continues to say that it is through the Holy Spirit who still strives and bears witness of this fact to those he speaks with. He does not speak to all men, but those He speaks to bear witness of what He says.
I am guilty of many many sins for which I have found forgiveness in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. To say homosexuality is not a sin, is the same as saying that fornication is not a sin, that I was born a fornicator, and cannot conceive of being any other way, or that I am a thief, and so many people steal that it is time to stop hiding it, and recognize that burglary is an alternative lifestyle and tolerant people should not persecute thieves but accept them.
Now I am as bad or worse as any fornicator, or thief, or homosexual, and it is not for me to condemn them, or say that God does not love them, because the fact is He does love them, as He loves me. But to say that the acts themselves are not sin, is laughable, and no amount of propaganda, or legislation, or public opinion shall change those facts.”
“You selectively pull out verses to justify this lie - Jesus saying "not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the Law" "I have come not to do away with the Law but to fulfill it" - taken as to mean "to JUSTIFY" if not "REINFORCE it" - when He means He is the END of the Law - as in the Fruit of the Spirit that is Love, Joy, Goodness, Kindness, Gentleness (i.e. not advocating punishing gays) Peacefulness, Faithfulness, Patience and Self-Control "there is no condemnation". In other words - practicing the opposite of these - i.e. advocating punishing gays - there IS condemnation. You should really try reading it. Problem is you are "blind guides" - blindly leading others "into the pit" - taking the Truth and turning it to a lie - sullying the blessed name of Jesus with your punitive agenda you turn far more people from considering Jesus than Satan. Lessee - so whose side would that make you and those like you on?”
Louis William Rose on Jun 6, 2012 at 08:25:34
“Well this is an old argument answered by Romans 6:1" What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" Heaven forbid. Homosexuality, like fornication and adultery, and lying, and all manner of sin, is still sin, and hated by God. The Holy Spirit, who reveals himself to Christians still bears witness to this fact. So we do not condemn our fellow men, but bear witness to the truth that God still speaks, that there is forgiveness and salvation through Jesus the Christ.”
“Why is it "good Christians" insist on holding to Old Testament teaching when Christ clearly modified it - in terms of practice (Sabbath made for man not man for the Sabbath),
mercy and love:
"You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For if you love those who love you, if you do good to those who do good to you, lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? For if you love those who love you, if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? But love your enemies, and do good, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also, and lend, expecting nothing in return; give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men. Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful."
- J. Christ
How have you missed this?”
Louis William Rose on Jun 6, 2012 at 08:20:14
“I agree with you on this, which I why I said that no one has the moral authority to pass such a harsh judgement on homosexuals, or adulterers, and the like. We should adopt the attitudes expressed in scripture that you quote above. Nevertheless, God's judgement for such behavior has not changed and those activities are sin and should be repented of. So we are all unrighteous, in that all have sinned, and the penalty for sin is death. So all should seek refuge in Jesus Christ for salvation.”