"Writing in your dog's name might make you feel good, but it doesn't help. In fact, it might let the guy (or gal) you want in the chair the least to be sitting in that chair. Your dog is certainly not going to become governor."
I did indeed write it, I stand by it, I do not see what about it you find insulting.
I still wish you would explain why you find it insulting but you have apparently decided not to post to me anymore.
“While I agree with you in overall principal, if us in the USA are going to get the majority of our news from TV, and as long as we insist that if we are going to watch TV for more than 30 seconds before turning the channel to something else, news is going to have to be entertaining.
Dispassionate facts are not entertaining. And often the truth is not entertaining. The truth is often uncomfortable, and nobody wants to watch something that's going to make them uncomfortable.
Opinion is entertaining. Talking points are easily digestible and repeatable and make watchers/listeners feel they have 'learned' something because they can repeat back things like 'patient-centered reform", or “Common-sense solutions” without having any idea what it actually means (the people spouting that on the TV shows wouldn’t be able to intelligently answer the question “What are your specific ideas for reforms or solutions?” And the travesty is they are not even asked that 95% of the time).
I still recommend the now-older 1983-84 book "Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Dr. Neil Postman. The decline of real news coverage and real honest debate of the issues on TV shows is not new. It has been generations in the making.”
“Actually, 'trickle-down' does work, to an extent, but only if people take what they have and spend it. The rich have largely been taking their money and putting it in offshore accounts, not 'spending' it. What investments they make are as likely international, not US investments. And then they avoid having to pay tax (or as much tax) on their gains.
The middle class and poor cannot leverage money the same way. Unemployment benefits are not put into a savings account and saved up to by stocks or even put in a CD. They are spent. Cutting off UB means where a woman might have paid her local hair salon for a wash n' cut, she'll just do it herself. Where once the guy was paying for a lawn service, he'll cut the grass himself. Where they used to eat out and support local restaurants, now the couple or family will eat in. Those businesses lose customers. It has a direct and negative impact on the local economy.
Since there is no evidence that extending the benefits causes the person to stay unemployed longer, why hurt these businesses? It will only make things worse, not better.
Lack of customers will cause the hair salon, the lawn service, the restaurant, to lay off an employee or two. And what will those former employees do then? File for Unemployment Benefits!
Stop that cycle now. Extend benefits for now, roll it back slowly and incrementally as the unemployment rate drops.”
“"Do they want to put us in Labor Camps to fight for our food, water and even life like the movie "Hunger Games"?"
Um, yeah they kinda do. I've thought this for years, like, at least 20 years.
Why do you think we've seen no movement from the government leaders to get access to health care not be tied to full-time employment with a large-enough business/corporation?
Because the big businesses don't want it.
You'd think businesses would want out of the 'business' of being their employees' insurance broker, as it were, but they seem just fine with it. Why? Because it's a bargaining chip to get and keep employees. The last thing they want is their employees to quit and go start their own business, and offering free or lower cost health insurance for them and their family than what they could get if they were "Going Rogue" is one way to 'keep them employees in line'.
It's a control thing. Large corporations would love it if everyone was forced to work for large corporations. Since they can't 'force' us, they coerce us, and lobby the government to write laws in such a way as to discourage us from trying to make a good living outside of a corporate salary with benefits.”
“Every FL governor has to balance the budget - Scoot doesn't get kudos for just doing his job. Governor Sink would have balanced the budget too.
Likewise, the idea of a 'surplus' is a misnomer. FL has no state income tax, a large percentage of state funds come from documentary stamp taxes (revenue collected from real estate transactions) and Scott was just simply in the governor's seat when the real estate market was coming back. Again, Governor Sink would have seen the same 'surplus' had she been elected in 2010.
As for jobs, here's the latest article showing that Scott can hardly take the credit for most of FL's job gains:
“I agree Alex Sink would have made a good governor.
I also know that some people are trying to give Gov. Scott the credit for getting port improvements up in Jacksonville and at the Port of Miami.
It's wonderful stuff and will help the economy, but there is no reason to think any sitting governor of Florida would not have done the same (Because it involves international trade, federal money is in play). In 2010, had 70,000 more votes gone to Sink instead of Scott, the port expansion/improvements would still have happened.”
“I'm sorry, but people who say that are just going to have to suck it up and make the hard decision come ballot time. Nelson is not, and won't be, running for governor of Florida. He said so on local TV three weeks ago. I saw it. (This Week in South Florida with Michael Putney, who is also a long-time writer for the Miami Herald).
It is likely our choices will come down to Rick Scott v. Nan Rich, or Rick Scott v. Charlie Crist.
Writing in your dog's name might make you feel good, but it doesn't help. In fact, it might let the guy (or gal) you want in the chair the least to be sitting in that chair. Your dog is certainly not going to become governor.
So basically, you have to vote for one of the three. No candidate is going to be perfect. We've got to get over the idea that if they do one or two things differently from what we would like, that we simply can't vote for them, ever.
That being said, I think Rick Scott's 'cons' far, far outweigh any 'pros' someone might wish to put in front of me as consideration for why I should vote for Scott.”
TheHighForester on Dec 6, 2013 at 16:04:18
“"Writing in your dog's name might make you feel good, but it doesn't help. In fact, it might let the guy (or gal) you want in the chair the least to be sitting in that chair. Your dog is certainly not going to become governor."
Since I did not write anything offensive, above, I do not accept your decision to respond in an insulting manner. Any discussion we might have had will end on that note, MarvinM.”
“If it is, so what? What are you implying? Are you trying to say my source is not accurate? What, it fact, is your actual point?
Hint: If you think the source I cited is not accurate, it would have been more direct and better for communication for you to have said "I don't think your source is accurate because ... " and explained the 'because' part.
So, please, if you think the source is not accurate, just come out and say so, and provide the reason why you think it's not accurate.”
“McConnell: "The only 'fix' is full repeal followed by step-by-step, patient-centered reforms that drive down costs and that Americans actually want."
Yet ask him, or anyone who uses that phrase, for an example of a 'patient-centered reform' and you either get crickets, or whiplash from watching them do a 180 away from the subject.”
paverguy1 on Dec 5, 2013 at 16:10:04
“Patient centered reforms is some Frank Luntz gobbledygook. I believe it actually is a privatized system. Yeah that would be good for????????”
gungavin on Dec 5, 2013 at 15:48:47
“That choice of words, patient-centered, is so far removed from any any legislation the GOP has ever considered that it's an insult to the intelligence of even, a blade of grass. ( no offense; grass ! )”
Wallysmom on Dec 5, 2013 at 15:46:19
“Can any Republican explain what 'patient centered reforms' actually means? and other than tort reform how they plan to drive down costs? Their minions may buy this gobbledygook but intelligent individuals know it means nothing.”
“Rick Scott and AG Pam Bondi tried to do that here in FL, and the counties that are actually interested in helping not only their citizens but helping keep the hospitals from being inundated with uninsureds told them to Go Fly a Kite.
And, as far as tactics to keep Ocare from succeeding, get a load of this:
Recently two new website cropped up in Alaska discouraging people from trying/using Ocare, both run by a group out of Naples FL called the Foundation for Government Accountability.
When you go to FGA’s website, one of their headline articles is:
Uncover ObamaCare Initiative Launches Interactive Map Tracking Exchange Enrollment vs. Projections
BY CHRIS CINQUEMANI OCTOBER 24, 2013 ·
95 Million Exchange Accounts Needed to Meet Enrollment Expectations
NAPLES, FLORIDA – The ObamaCare exchanges are on track for monumental failure if current enrollment trends continue; a fact Americans can see for themselves using a new map and charting feature ... “
So ... the group that is actively trying to keep people from enrolling is complaining about the low enrollments. Go figure.”
modrnknght on Dec 5, 2013 at 01:40:52
“They are the same ones who complained about the website not working, while doing all they could to repeal the ACA.”
“Kenz, your experience is exactly the same as mine.
I think one good thing that has come out of this is that more people have been forced to become aware of what health insurance really costs, how it works and, if it is being paid or partially paid for by an employer, who much it is really worth.
You would not believe the number of people posting on these threads when the exchanges first opened who were saying stuff like "And when they find out the company won't even pay until they hit the $5000 deductible? Who can afford that?" as though Obamacare invented lower monthly/higher deductible insurance plans.
I was paying $245/month for a junky plan with that $5000 deductible back in 2004 when I dumped it as 'too expensive'. I can now get a comparable Bronze Plan (comparable deductible, better coverage) for about $200.
You betcha, it is a blessing for many. I just wish people would stop trying to scare others from even looking at the website to see what they might be able to get. It doesn't cost anything to look, and you don't have to enter any private information, or set up an account to look.
“Many people do not really understand insurance and how it works. That is why the insurance companies were able to get away with selling so many junk policies that really did not cover you. People would not find out how bad the policy was until they got sick and needed good coverage.
Insurance companies know that most people do not bother checking prices or shopping around when renewing insurance....... they just want to enroll you in their higher cost plan and hope you are not smart enough to catch them........
What a scam........
Go to the HealthCare.Gov website and apply for insurance thru them. It will be a better policy and you will pay less than going to the insurance company directly.”
“Yeah, that $30 more a month on my family's $1000/month health care plan (if I had one) is really gonna put me in the poor house.
Remember, $30 more a month is apparently inconsequential. Remember, that's about what was just cut from food stamp allowances, and everybody said it was no big deal, that those families should have no problem eating on $36 less a month if they just budget and clip coupons...”
The domain on Dec 4, 2013 at 20:08:19
“Says the man who knows nothing about anyone. Gee, it's 30 a month. 30 that doesn't get to go to food or bills or keep the lights on.
You've obviously never worked a day in your life, or had to keep a budget.”
“Right, because everyone who enrolls through the website doesn't do any followup if they don't hear back from the insurance company, within a week, two tops.
Follow-up is just standard procedure when you buy anything online. I ordered a gig bag on Monday from a mail-order company and if I hadn't hear from them via e-mail confirming my order, I'd have contacted them within 48 hours to check and see if my order really went through. If I don't get my product within a week I call and check on its status.
Stop with the horror stories. There probably will be a few things that go slightly awry but give the consumer some credit for being proactive and treating this the same as any other purchase - not so much buyer beware as trust but verify, verify, verify.”
Dec 4, 2013 at 04:06:11
“From the above:
"The changes come after blogger Vani Hari wrote a post in 2011 titled "Chick-fil-A or Chemical Fil-A?" on her site, FoodBabe.com. It noted that the chain's sandwich had nearly 100 ingredients, including peanut oil with TBHQ, a chemical made from butane."
I'm a big fan of peanut oil. But I'm still not going to Chik-fil-a.
I am, however, going to check the label of my peanut oil ...”
GoodWillHumping on Dec 4, 2013 at 10:10:56
“Thank you. Guess I missed that. It does seem unlikely we will be reading of the health benefits of butane in our foods...lol. I'll use their toilets, but I won't spend a plug nickle in there either.”