MobilizerJ's Comments (17)

“MobilizerJ

You are kidding, right?

The Constitution has absolute authority.

The Bible, Wagner's Ring trilogy and Gone with the Wind are cultural fiction. They have no authority in law at all.”

“Hell no, we were still living in fear of being discovered, being fired from jobs, having our lives ruined, harassed by cops, being thrown in jail. This struggle has been going on in America, the struggle for equality for LGBT people, since very humble beginnings in the 1940s. Nobody knows anything about that fact because everybody turns and looks the other way. It's a profound state of willful ignorance.”

“The bible is not personal for everyone. Thank goodness it's not law..........yet.”

“And Obama doesn't have to put it in front of our faCE on his inauguration day, either. You straight dems just don't get it do you? you'll understand as soon as Obama throws you under the bus too. I worked day and night to get him elected for this. I cannot support Obama anymore.”

“Anything fun???

Michale.....”

“So u agree that the Bible is not infallible, and that some of it might just be man interjecting their own prejudices or beliefs into it?”

“Perhaps you should read Matthew... specifically 19:21... it continually amazes me how Christians don't even know their own religious leaders teachings. As most, you're probably more aptly, a Paulian, not a Christian.”

“You're kidding, right! First , we do have a separation of church and state in this country. Warren can "personally" believe what his faith tells him, he doesn't have the right to force it onto other people. There are equal numbers of theologians who disagree with him, most notably Rev. Joseph Lowry, who'll giv Obams benediction. If sex outside of marriage is a "sin", why not make it illegal. Ley's pass a constitutional amendment to criminalize sex outside of marriage. This would be equally as ridiculous as the arguments you make towards gay marriage. As an African American I am deeply offended by these arguments supported by the bible. The bible was used to support slavery and a ban on interracial marriage in this country based on racial bigotry disguised as moral biblical principles.

Should parents be allowed to stone their child to death for disobience do people who eat shellfish commit a sin, or should men be allowed to have 200 wives, as Abraham did in the bible. These things in the 21st century would be viewed as ludicrous. Here's a question for Evangelicals, have you even read the bible? Do you think any civilized society should be held to the totality of biblical mandates. Oh and by the way, marriage in biblical times was a bargain between to kings or lords to ensure wealth transfers. Women were sold into marriage by their fathers to gain wealth from wealthy men. Should this be allowed today as well?”

“It seems that you are holding Warren to a higher standard than he holds himself. When he supported Prop 8, I don't believe for a second that he really thought that "being gay" would be taught in schools, that preachers would be prosecuted for "hate speech", or that marriage was defined as being between one man and one woman for the last 5000 years. If he really saw the bible as the ultimate authority, he would not have chosen "bear false witness against his neighbors". It seems that the Bible is only his "ultimate authority" until it gets in the way of his agenda.”

“So the Rev's view of the Bible is the support for his position. A bit circular? What are his views on the stoning issue? Of course, we no longer interpret the Bible by "The words, acts and life of Jesus". That got crushed by the Neo Southern Baptists. So Ricky's word is now THE word. Oops, I thought "...And the Word was made ... " on Christmas.”

“Bible: Etymology:
Middle English, from Old French, from Medieval Latin 'biblia', from Greek, plural of 'biblion'
'book', diminutive of 'byblos' papyrus, 'book', from 'Byblos', ancient Phoenician city from
which papyrus was exported. (Merriam-Webster)

In other words, the Bible is just another book (these days), although it was arguably the first one ever.”

“I'm no biblical scholar, but doesn't it say in there somewhere (perhaps many times) 'Love one another"? I've heard it does. Note that it doesn't say "men love only women; women love only men" It just says 'love one another' or something close to that.”

“Sex was not created by G.o.d. for the context of marriage (no telling what that is supposed to mean). Sexual reproduction is a method for recombining genetic material through union of gametes. It is practiced by a large number of organisms on Earth without any ritualistic context such as marriage.

Humanity fails when religion (and ig.nor.ance) triumphs.”

“Um, O.K. Then judging by this incredibly stupid and fallacious argument, wouldn't it have simply been easier for God to just make the parts not work at all UNLESS you were in a marriage? Guess that means NOTHING else in the animal kingdom would reproduce then. This fits right in to the MANMADE BS about "original sin" which can be interpreted as: "O.K., you're born sinners, but I have the solution! Jesus Christ! Now give me money."”

“I think, if I were Rachel, I would respond with... "the ramblings of a lunatic are still ramblings. The bible being written BY MEN who are fallible offers no validation or credance to the argument of whether homosexuality is a sin."”

“That's propaganda, meant to eliminate any biblical dissent...

'oh, if you don't believe the bible the way I do, it's simply because you aren't applying yourself, or you approached it wrong!'. That's a weak justification.

Inspirational writers/speakers use that same argument. 'Well, if my book didn't change your life, it's because you were unwilling to let the words speak to you'. Or 'you approached it with a closed mind'.

Further, if you REALLY approached the bible with "no bias", then you would neither believe it nor disbelieve it initially. And I honestly think that if you weren't biased, that one would generally conclude that the bible, while a nice BOOK to use as a source of inspiration on how to lead YOUR life, is not divinely inspired.”

“The Bible is written by man, therefore it can not, according to God's word, be infallible. Man is inherently fallible as a result of original sin, therefore, we cannot ascertain that the Bible is a 100% accurate representation of God's will. For example, polygamy is not condemned and practiced by many in the Bible. Would you, through your reading of the Bible, think polygamy is God's will? Likewise slavery receives Biblical approval, would you think that God's will? Furthermore, the Bible is littered with contradictions and inaccuracies. And I would doubt you've read the Bible in it's original context unless you actually speak Hebrew and Greek. If you do though, you'd realize the version most read isn't even an accurate representation of the original. Certain words don't translate exactly, some are mistranslated, etc.”