Mogamboguru's Comments (19022)
Dean: Lieberman Should Give Up Chairmanship If He Backs GOP Health Care Filibuster
Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 16:49:35 in Politics
“But Joe IS a very principled guy.
By principle, he sells his vote ALWAYS EXCLUSIVELY to the highest bidder.
If THAT ain't principled - then what is...?”
By principle, he sells his vote ALWAYS EXCLUSIVELY to the highest bidder.
If THAT ain't principled - then what is...?”
krugmaniac replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 17:07:19
“Reminds me of the recent "Louisiana Purchase" for a vote.”
Home Prices "Not Even Close" To Bottom: Barry Ritholtz (VIDEO)
Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 16:27:01 in Business
“A year ago, I predicted falling home-prices to bottom out at 50 percent of their max. value scored at the height of the boom in mid-2008.
So far, I have been right. And counting...”
So far, I have been right. And counting...”
Pelosi: 'We'll Never Have Deficit Reduction Unless We Have Job Creation'
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 14:27:52 in Politics
“Weee - Pelosi is talking truth to power.
Looks like someone is finally throwing down the gauntlet before Summers' and Geithner's feet.
Let the games begin...”
Looks like someone is finally throwing down the gauntlet before Summers' and Geithner's feet.
Let the games begin...”
liberalNmoderation replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 14:32:21
“Ayuppers...can't argue with that.”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:46:54 in Politics
“i am out for work. Seeya tonite, folks!”
Zaphod Beeblebrox replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:49:06
“: )
Good to catch up, Mo!”
Good to catch up, Mo!”
onwardsandupwards replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:48:41
“Bye Mo.
Watch how you go!
VP ;-))”
Watch how you go!
VP ;-))”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:43:06 in Politics
“Oh - and once again:
The campaign in Afghanistan is NOT a war, but an occupation.
The T.a l.i b.a n. are .r e.s i.s t.a n.c.e .f .i g.h t.e r.s., who have any right to .f i.g h.t an occupation f.o r.c e, like "La Resistance" had to .f i.g h.t the germans, who were occupying their country back in WWII.
This time, America is on the WRONG side of history. And no amount of money, no .i d.l e. .M.S. M.- c.h.a.t..t e.r and no increase of numbers of american troops on the ground in Afghanistan whatsoever will ever be able to change that.”
The campaign in Afghanistan is NOT a war, but an occupation.
The T.a l.i b.a n. are .r e.s i.s t.a n.c.e .f .i g.h t.e r.s., who have any right to .f i.g h.t an occupation f.o r.c e, like "La Resistance" had to .f i.g h.t the germans, who were occupying their country back in WWII.
This time, America is on the WRONG side of history. And no amount of money, no .i d.l e. .M.S. M.- c.h.a.t..t e.r and no increase of numbers of american troops on the ground in Afghanistan whatsoever will ever be able to change that.”
poco767c replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:58:01
“I think the Tal!ban and the resistance are different but forced together by circumstance.
My understanding that there are several groups all f!ghting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Tal!ban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
My understanding that there are several groups all f!ghting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Tal!ban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
poco767c replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:56:12
“I think the Tal!ban and the resistance are different but forced together by circumstance.
My understanding that there are several groups all fighting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Taliban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
My understanding that there are several groups all fighting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Taliban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
poco767c replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:55:58
“I think the Taliban and the resistance are different but forced together by circumstance.
My understanding that there are several groups all fighting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Taliban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
My understanding that there are several groups all fighting the US and at the same time vying for control.
The Taliban, the religious hardliners who previously ran the country in part
The warlords who controlled their own little territories funded by her0in money
The people who are fighting an occupation and want freedom, but fancy their odds better against their homegrown oppressors than the US.
I don't think the people of Afghanistan 'h@te our freedom', I think many of them want our freedom, it's hard to convince people you are on their side when you have troops outside their kids school.”
onwardsandupwards replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:48:02
“Correct.
This is a war from which no "winner" can ever emerge.”
This is a war from which no "winner" can ever emerge.”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:41:40 in Politics
“Oh - and once again:
The campaign in Afghanistan is NOT a war, but an occupation.
The Taliban are resistance fighters, who have any right to fight an occupation force, like "La Resistance" had to fight the germans, who were occupying their country back in WWII.
This time, America is on the WRONG side of history. And no amount of money, no idle MSM-chatter and no increase of numbers of american troops on the ground in Afghanistan whatsoever will ever be able to change that.”
The campaign in Afghanistan is NOT a war, but an occupation.
The Taliban are resistance fighters, who have any right to fight an occupation force, like "La Resistance" had to fight the germans, who were occupying their country back in WWII.
This time, America is on the WRONG side of history. And no amount of money, no idle MSM-chatter and no increase of numbers of american troops on the ground in Afghanistan whatsoever will ever be able to change that.”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:36:51 in Politics
“Very good comparison!
An imagine to heed by everyone who is watching the mess in Afghanistan continue and grow day by day.”
An imagine to heed by everyone who is watching the mess in Afghanistan continue and grow day by day.”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:34:56 in Politics
“I agree.
But the day of reckoning is approaching very quickly.
And I would H A.T E. to watch the gleeful faces of the Reps, if they would reap victories in any future election because of a mess which they had handed to Obama before, only to achieve just that.
"Disaster Politics" - anyone?”
But the day of reckoning is approaching very quickly.
And I would H A.T E. to watch the gleeful faces of the Reps, if they would reap victories in any future election because of a mess which they had handed to Obama before, only to achieve just that.
"Disaster Politics" - anyone?”
Zaphod Beeblebrox replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:39:07
“To be honest I cannot see the GOP making great headway for a while yet. But your point about GOP strategy is hard to argue with since that's been their unofficial position since Jan 20.”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:30:26 in Politics
“My bad... 8-)
Good morning, Zaphod!”
Good morning, Zaphod!”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:29:13 in Politics
“Hi, O&U!
Still walking strong on my way out for work.
But the work will do it's best to change that soon again... ;-)”
Still walking strong on my way out for work.
But the work will do it's best to change that soon again... ;-)”
Obama's Afghanistan Decision: 34,000 More Troops And An Exit Strategy, Reports Say
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:25:30 in Politics
“America will leave Afghanistan the same way Soviet Russia did in 1989 some day soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
Like one rooftop-experience in Saigon hadn't been enough to learn, what to do and what to leave...”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
Like one rooftop-experience in Saigon hadn't been enough to learn, what to do and what to leave...”
onwardsandupwards replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:33:55
“Agreed.
An unconventional, terro.rist war, cannot be won by conventional means..
On a much smaller scale of course, look at the example of Northern Ire.land (where I live), in over 30 years, the well-trained, well-equipped, Brit.ish Ar.my, could not def.eat the IR.A, the U.VF etc. etc.,”
An unconventional, terro.rist war, cannot be won by conventional means..
On a much smaller scale of course, look at the example of Northern Ire.land (where I live), in over 30 years, the well-trained, well-equipped, Brit.ish Ar.my, could not def.eat the IR.A, the U.VF etc. etc.,”
onwardsandupwards replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:32:51
“Agreed.
An unconventional, terrorist war, cannot be won by conventional means.
On a much smaller scale of course, look at the example of Northern Ireland (where I live), in over 30 years, the well-trained, well-equipped, British Army, could not defeat the IRA, the UVF etc. etc.,”
An unconventional, terrorist war, cannot be won by conventional means.
On a much smaller scale of course, look at the example of Northern Ireland (where I live), in over 30 years, the well-trained, well-equipped, British Army, could not defeat the IRA, the UVF etc. etc.,”
Zaphod Beeblebrox replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:30:26
“I hope that's not the case. I hope we do better by the Afghans than to leave them in the hands of a political militia.”
Nancy Folbre: Worker-Run Businesses Could Transform The Planet
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 04:15:10 in Business
“Check put the spanish / basque workers' initiative MONDRAGON:
http://www.mondragon-corporation.com/language/en-US/ENG.aspx
Since it's foundation during the 1930's, Mondragon has become one of the most successful company conglomerates in Spain, employing tens of thousands of workers, who collectively run their cooperatives with startling economical success.
It CAN be done. And it WORKS PERFECTLY WELL, too. Ali that's lacking, is the will of the people, to do it.
YES, EVEN YOU CAN!”
http://www.mondragon-corporation.com/language/en-US/ENG.aspx
Since it's foundation during the 1930's, Mondragon has become one of the most successful company conglomerates in Spain, employing tens of thousands of workers, who collectively run their cooperatives with startling economical success.
It CAN be done. And it WORKS PERFECTLY WELL, too. Ali that's lacking, is the will of the people, to do it.
YES, EVEN YOU CAN!”
vippy replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 17:55:57
“And I bet they did not sell out to Wall Street and stock market. Who in their right mind would ever
want to sell stocks? Nothing but trouble in those things. They ask for more and more and then when there is no more productivity to be squeezed, no employees to be laid off, no more companies to be
bought up, what then? What happens then was always my question. The stock market was never good for us.”
want to sell stocks? Nothing but trouble in those things. They ask for more and more and then when there is no more productivity to be squeezed, no employees to be laid off, no more companies to be
bought up, what then? What happens then was always my question. The stock market was never good for us.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 17:18:20 in World
“Of which HOW MUCH went into illegal, useless wars, exactly...?”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 17:16:53 in World
“Feeding the hungry, treating the elderly, women and children with respect and keep peace with your neighbor, CC.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:22:38 in World
“I am with you on this one, for once.
But blaming Obama for something he didn't start won't help.
Obama was naive to believe the Pentagon. Every General in the Pentagon is prepared to lie to the president as well as to congress through his teeth smilingly, only to get his own, little war.
Obama was too naive to understand that, when he took power.
But he has learned since.”
But blaming Obama for something he didn't start won't help.
Obama was naive to believe the Pentagon. Every General in the Pentagon is prepared to lie to the president as well as to congress through his teeth smilingly, only to get his own, little war.
Obama was too naive to understand that, when he took power.
But he has learned since.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:18:38 in World
“A peace demonstration is being organized for December 12, 2009 in Washington, D.C. The Emergency Anti-Escalation Rally, also known as the End US Wars Rally, is scheduled for 11am at Lafayette Park at the White House. I wholly endorse this rally and encourage all who can to participate in Washington, DC or to help a local peace organization committed to ending U.S. wars on that date.
For more information about the Washington, D.C. December 12, 2009 demonstration, please visit www.endUSwars.org.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16229”
For more information about the Washington, D.C. December 12, 2009 demonstration, please visit www.endUSwars.org.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16229”
Jake the Snake replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 16:19:45
“Thanks for the info and links.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:17:30 in World
“Who started this mess under which false premises?”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:15:59 in World
“The 3 Trillion Dollar War
The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More
By Linda J. Bilmes and Joseph E. Stiglitz
Sunday, March 9, 2008
Add another 1 or 2 Trillions for Afghanistan, and you got the whole picture.
For a start: 5 Trillion Dollars are 5 million millions.”
The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More
By Linda J. Bilmes and Joseph E. Stiglitz
Sunday, March 9, 2008
Add another 1 or 2 Trillions for Afghanistan, and you got the whole picture.
For a start: 5 Trillion Dollars are 5 million millions.”
ohiotechie replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 16:21:14
“So much for an occupation that pays for itself.....”
acapo replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 16:17:40
“Get ready to waste more money --- this time u can blame Dems”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:11:36 in World
“No - only stopping to stoke the fire will do the job.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:10:51 in World
“Open Letter to Obama: Please Bring Our Troops Home Now!
by Cynthia McKinney
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16229
Quote:
"A peace demonstration is being organized for December 12, 2009 in Washington, D.C. The Emergency Anti-Escalation Rally, also known as the End US Wars Rally, is scheduled for 11am at Lafayette Park at the White House. I wholly endorse this rally and encourage all who can to participate in Washington, DC or to help a local peace organization committed to ending U.S. wars on that date.
For more information about the Washington, D.C. December 12, 2009 demonstration, please visit www.endUSwars.org, currently under construction."”
by Cynthia McKinney
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16229
Quote:
"A peace demonstration is being organized for December 12, 2009 in Washington, D.C. The Emergency Anti-Escalation Rally, also known as the End US Wars Rally, is scheduled for 11am at Lafayette Park at the White House. I wholly endorse this rally and encourage all who can to participate in Washington, DC or to help a local peace organization committed to ending U.S. wars on that date.
For more information about the Washington, D.C. December 12, 2009 demonstration, please visit www.endUSwars.org, currently under construction."”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 16:01:58 in World
“X-actly.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 15:59:39 in World
“Yada, yada, yada...
Argument, please?”
Argument, please?”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 15:58:36 in World
“No action possible before May next year.
The winters in the Karakorum mountains are of the .k i.l l.i n.g kind.”
The winters in the Karakorum mountains are of the .k i.l l.i n.g kind.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 15:57:24 in World
“America will leave Afghanistan some day soon the same way Soviet Russia did in 1989.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
Like one rooftop-experience in Saigon hadn't been enough.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
Like one rooftop-experience in Saigon hadn't been enough.”
JamesR. replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 16:01:09
“People in other parts of the world clearly see. You don't have a Ministry of Truth MSM pushing out the MIC pro pa gan da 24/7.”
onwardsandupwards replied on Nov 23, 2009 at 15:59:12
“Sadly - I have to agree with you, Mo.
There is NO winning to be had in Afghanistan.”
There is NO winning to be had in Afghanistan.”
Cost Estimates Of Afghanistan Troop Buildup Vary Widely
Commented Nov 23, 2009 at 15:52:45 in World
“BuIIshlt. Apples and Oranges.
There was a war in advance of the occupation, which you won. Remember?
So where is this won war, please?”
There was a war in advance of the occupation, which you won. Remember?
So where is this won war, please?”


