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Backpfeifengesicht = Lieberman

Commented Nov 01, 2009 at 09:22:50 in Politics

“What's happened to him since his nomination for Vice President?”

ukulelebailey replied on Nov 01, 2009 at 10:55:18

“Nothing has changed. He was the same then as now.”
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Setting the Record Straight on Our Health Care Legislation

Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 19:31:13 in Politics

“I'm with you, but I'm wondering what is PBO thinking?”
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Ending the Great Recession: It's Going to Take More Than Just Stimulus

Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 15:46:52 in Business

“The solutions are for those at the top of the wealth curve. They happily are taking full advantage of cheap foreign labor. The new way of things works for them. The financial people continue to play the casinos of boom bust economies-Buy low, sell high. Not to even mention inside money and all its advantages to those in the know. Look at Hollywood-they're lovin it - tens and hundreds of millions of ticket buyers at what is it now $!@-15 a clip.G Sachs gambles with public money made 4 Billion profit last quarter pushing paper as it were. The oil cos have been very quiet???? ----%% Billion profits in 2008. Coollege costs are nutz. Where will our graduates go? I have four grandchildren. In summary -This game must change and change for the benefit of the middle class etc.”

Rmath replied on Oct 31, 2009 at 14:29:40

“Fanned and faved!”

hypnotoad72 replied on Oct 31, 2009 at 12:56:07

“(conclusion)
And with more jobs becoming 33 hour no-benefits "underemployment", things can NEVER improve in this country.

Never mind cost of education and pertinent equipment skyrocketing too -- maybe that and the other factors above are why Americans are losing interest..­. especially with the "return on investment" - hey, that's not just for balance sheets, you know.

Now I might just agree that the 90% tax rate in 1950 was too high. But today's tax rates for the wealthiest, especially after every bit of government subsidy, bail out, tax cheat, whittling down wages... is 8% really too high?

http://www.jrlc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=158
(hard cold proof, which was obtained from sources they readily provide)

Pretty low for the top as it is, before all the other subsidies, "havens", bailout money, and the rest.

By, of, and for the wealthy corporation. An oligarchy. We are not a democracy. We are a facade of one.

(and, lastly, I am not against capitalism. But what is going on is corporatism. BIG difference­.)”

hypnotoad72 replied on Oct 31, 2009 at 12:55:56

“Well, if a CEO makes 500~900x what their employees earn, and continuing to drive down workers' wages just so the CEO's can go up, isn't it rather obvious at some point the deck of cards will fall?

For decades, cost of living has eclipsed wages (with wages dropping), and credit cards made it easier too - paying things in installments (with interest rates that even the ancient Romans would despise; they capped theirs at 10%. The Muslims dropped the notion of interest, claiming it was against God, since ALL is owned by God and we just use it (paraphrased from Wikipedia). )

Even the Christian Bible has far worse things to say about sneaky and greedy creditors than it does debtors... yet the politicians bought and paid for by the creditors somehow claim we're a Christian nation... yeah, right... If that's true, I am 20 feet tall, say "ho ho ho", and peddle green tomatoes.

I used to believe that people could spend wastefully. That may still be true, but I don't put as much weight into that anymore. Not when looking at the WHOLE picture.

It's also hard to get a job when you're deemed "overqualified" because they have a degree higher than "high school diploma". (Extinct are the days when such a diploma landed a good paying job when you got good grades... now it's a bachelor's degree for wages that are great for 1979 standards.­.. but are next to impossible to live on in 2009.)

(continues)”
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Building Progressive Staying Power

Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 15:12:17 in Politics

“Incorrect, respectfuly. Let's see if a Robust PO comes to law. I hope so. I don't think so'
Yes this is a battle for the very survival of many millions. I personally will see no COLA for my SS in 2010 and 2011. Shall I say pretty please/”

Aaror replied on Oct 30, 2009 at 17:02:47

“COLA=Cost Of Living Adjustment, tied to the inflation index.
Guess what, if the inflation index goes negative, there is no COLA.
sorry, pretty please doesn't cut it, only following the law does.”
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Building Progressive Staying Power

Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 14:58:21 in Politics

“What do you mean "not to gain further power"? Will somebody help me here.Forge­t about the balance of power. That is what is paralyzing progress. In a word it should be the intention of the Progressives to gain power, consolidate pwer, use power for the good of people not just the wealthy. Look here now "We" have all legs of government and who is barkinking the loudest- Lieberman. Shall we get on our knees a beg the B Dogs to come along with a robust PO? THIS IS what's wrong with Dems and Progressive Dems-They are not "Repug" mean enough. Right???”
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Suggestions Wanted for "Can Capitalism Survive?" Debate

Commented Oct 27, 2009 at 19:25:16 in Business

“The main problem with Capitalism in America IS IT has Bought our Democracy.­Free our Democracy from Lobbyists and their Masters and allow our Democracy to actually decide things objectively. This will go a long way.”
Health Care Reform

Health Care Reform

Commented Oct 24, 2009 at 20:21:24 in Politics

“If states opting out plan becomes law red states will opt out, right? If such conditions stay would there not be a mass migration of people who need health insurance from red to blue states. Would that not alter the political demographics of the red states giving the Repug party total control of all red states?
Could this be a Repuglican Plan?”

weatherwaxx replied on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:03:58

“Or... after seeing something that WORKS in blue states, the 'red' states will vote the buggers out.”

lan eli replied on Oct 24, 2009 at 23:12:37

“When all the people migrate out of the state, who will be left to pay the taxes that pay the republidiots salaries? They need the people there to support the state. If they leave, the state will collapse. Maybe it's really a democratic plan for the future. There will be no red states to survive. Actually, not a bad plan i'd say.”
Why is Harry Reid Covering Up a Secret Senate Filibuster?

Why is Harry Reid Covering Up a Secret Senate Filibuster?

Commented Oct 23, 2009 at 19:40:59 in Politics

“That's right. This time "WE" are watching. If Harry dares to put through a trigger or opt out, This time there will be an Eruption a Reaction by the people.”

hark replied on Oct 24, 2009 at 00:10:16

“No, there won't be any such thing. Only 15% of the people are uninsured, and half of those voluntarily. There will be no rebellion. The vast majority don't care about the crisis in visceral terms. The only thing that will get them up off their couches is if they have to pay out of their pockets for the uninsured. Then watch them grab their pitchforks and torches.

Your "WE" is a tiny percentage of the American people.

This is capitalism. If you need help, find a charity. Otherwise, get out of the way and let the strong and responsible make their way for a better country.

That's the American way. Real Americans don't need government. Only commie sissy libs need a nanny.”
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Why Wall Street Reform is Stuck in Reverse

Commented Oct 22, 2009 at 14:30:43 in Politics

“But they won't do it! Our democracy is broken. Perhaps only a "Storming of the Bastille" will succeed.”
The Indictment of America

The Indictment of America

Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 12:33:42 in Politics

“I do think that events in the world seem to be building to a crescendo; Wars, Economies, Hatred, Genocides, Disparities of Wealth, Commercialism gone mad, on and on.”

Tiger99 replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 14:18:38

“Can you name a time in recorded history when things like Wars, Genocide, Hatred , Disparities of Wealth wasn't actually occurring all across the known world? Was there some "Age" that I haven't heard of referred to as the " Long Lasting Peace, No Person Is Enslaved, Different Peoples And Nations Held No Grudges Or Religious Based Prejudices, No One Went Hungry, Everyone Had Plenty Of Money The Rich Didn't Get Richer Age"?”
The Indictment of America

The Indictment of America

Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 12:24:08 in Politics

“The old order is not dying, unfortunately. They are at the Apex of their control over us.”

DaneAZ replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 13:34:09

“Oh they are dying alright.

Their white male numbers are being replaced by a changing population.

And that changing population is demanding their voices be heard - as they should.”
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Did Bush Screw Up Afghanistan Worse Than Iraq?

Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 06:46:55 in World

“Can anyone answer this question: Why do we continue to drive military vehicles throughout Afganistan thus taking roadside bombs killing our soldiers? Can we not police with Helicopters and call it a day?”

doriath22 replied on Oct 18, 2009 at 09:32:03

“Like the Russians did? I hear that worked really well.....”
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Obama Owes Progressives Answers Tonight in San Francisco on Three Health Care Questions

Commented Oct 15, 2009 at 19:05:19 in Politics

“I think Obama has convinced himself that brains, charm, word smithing and compromise will be the new order of the day WHILE holding the savage beasts of Uber Capitalism at bay. It is not working!!! And if he fails to get the Public Option into law he is a one term President. The question is how does the country avoid a return to Republican falsities and venom and greed. Hillary will not be "The One" in 2012. We are at a crossroads.”
Why Joe Biden Should Resign

Why Joe Biden Should Resign

Commented Oct 15, 2009 at 14:14:43 in World

“Any military people out there? Why can't our military withdraw to two or three extremely well protected encampments, one or two in Afganistan proper and one on the Afgan Pakistan border. Our special forces and Afgan agents can do their thing while all is protected by beefed up US air power, missles from land and sea. Let the Taliban try to take over Afganistan. Let them try to begin purges of US sympathizers - We will commence a bombardment of them as guided by our agents etc in groups of three or more Taliban. Let them come out in plain sight. They will be like Saddam should have been before the Iraq war. They will be playing OUR game and we should be relentless. Pakistan Taliban and terrorists should share a similar and worse fate. I know we can't win a war with air power alone, but we sure can do a lot of punishing.”
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The Audacity of Greed

Commented Oct 14, 2009 at 19:43:20 in Politics

“I agree that Obama is complicit in his incrementalism and penchant for compromise where none is possible. He also is playing footsie with Wall St., Big Pharma, and Private Health Ins. BUT how can you dismiss blame from CEOs and their companies when they continue to subvert and pervert the democratic process with their tens and hundreds of millions of lobbying money to both parties. You condone such bribery? Is this business as usual? YOU are a potential tea bagger.”
The Dominance of the Financial Sector Has Become a Mortal Danger to Our Economic Security

The Dominance of the Financial Sector Has Become a Mortal Danger to Our Economic Security

Commented Oct 13, 2009 at 09:29:35 in Politics

“I wish We the People could take back our government. I don't have any good feelings that this will happen. My negativity was temporarily pushed aside with the Obama election. Since then I've come to realize Obama is not the "One" we need to lead us agaist the finanancial obscenities going on and worsening in this country. He is a minimalist, a dealer, a compromiser and a word smith who thinks charm and intelligence will win over the powerful corporations (Think Goldman Sachs). I'm regretting the day We the People find out the game he is really playing (Big Pharma, Wall St). I'm sorry to say the people are in a permanent dazed state what with TV junk programming and nonsense movies. Wives have to work full time to keep up with always rising prices of goods. All our fears are played on by big business and the republicans. Democrats are bought by lobbyists and are too timid anyway. Our systems of Lobbying, Elections, Economics are all broken. Ralph Nader is a non factor now. Michael Moore is herocically trying to muster support from the people. Let's see what the Public Health Plan brings if it survives. Eisenhower told us to beware the Military-Industrial Complex. 1% of the very wealthy controls 95% of the total wealth.
I only know this-such conditions can't last, can they?”
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A Different Kind of Moon Race

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 20:49:31 in Technology

“That's what they said to early explorers of America-they woud fall off the edge of the world. No, it's about getting their greedy foot in the door and not being left behind. They are up to their eyeballs in investment mega dollars now. They are building prototype rockets now Yes it may be longer term potential, but lose out they will not do.”
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A Different Kind of Moon Race

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 19:25:35 in Technology

“I hope Goldman-Sachs invests in the Moon effort. Wouldn't that be lovely!!!!”

bccmeteorites replied on Oct 13, 2009 at 08:33:11

“They would figure out a way to lose billions. And who better to help them than NASA.”
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A Different Kind of Moon Race

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 19:16:24 in Technology

“Try reading and studying - the info is out there!”

thrdr replied on Oct 13, 2009 at 00:33:37

“Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.”
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A Different Kind of Moon Race

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 19:09:32 in Technology

“Private investors want in now! They see the long term potential, mining etc. This "effort" will be the opening of the door to "do business". This is a serious decision our country must make.”

HansB replied on Oct 12, 2009 at 20:10:47

“Find me a single investor willing to sink millions into moon mining, and I'll be a very rich man very quickly. There's lots of bridges I could sell someone that stupid. Can you even begin to imagine the price of a ton of iron, or even gold or anything else, mined on the Moon? Just to get three humans into space presently costs 600,000 pounds of high-energy propellant. Even if cheaper ways are found, the cost of space travel will always be prohibitive. And I'm not even going into the global warming part of burning such enormous amounts of energy to lift things into space.

The moon race was and is about prestige. Nothing else, absolutely nothing, can carry such a price tag.”
How Alan Grayson and Michael Moore Changed the Conversation

How Alan Grayson and Michael Moore Changed the Conversation

Commented Oct 11, 2009 at 19:57:10 in Politics

“I'm sorry to say "the game is rigged". Did not Pres Obama strike a secret deal with Big Pharma over 10 years-His explanation was to keep them at bay. Are not the Blue Dog Dems bought and sold by the Health insurance companies? Is Max Baucus a rightious man? Is the US system of Lobbying in anyway fair when tens and hundreds of millions are spent by Corporate interests to decide (not influence) policy. Is an economic system where 5% of the very wealthy controls 95% of the wealth intrinsically fair? Is not Capitalism a questionable ecomic system when prices forever go up and Mom MUST work to keep up? We need much, much more than the brave Michael Moore and Sen Greyson.”

DonRoberto replied on Oct 11, 2009 at 20:22:46

“Unfortunately, I agree with you. The game *is* rigged, which means we can't always win by playing fair. Politics really isn't pretty, and when something good is accomplished, we don't always want to know how it was done.

That said, I think the Big Pharma deal was inspired. It will save the US money in the short run, and it took a major opposition player out of the healthcare reform fight, thus making reform *possible* (which wasn't a given before the deal).

Bottom line, the system *is* unfair, but until we clean it up (if ever), we still need to win battles. Hence, the need to understand how the game is actually played.”
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Let the Philharmonic Play in Cuba

Commented Oct 07, 2009 at 08:07:28 in World

“The "scarey" actuality of Communism too close to the homeland is the driving force behind very powerful right wingers stopping opening up all relations with Cuba. China is many thousands of miles away-no chance of Americaans mingling en masse there.”

therealredstateblues replied on Oct 07, 2009 at 08:45:59

“funny how the right is so enamored with china, a communist dictatorship, Hu Jintao is currnetly #6 on the state depts "worst dicators" list, they support hostile regimes in Iran and N Korea, practice religious persecution and forced abortion.

but of course greed and self interest trumps principle on the right I guess.”
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Former Giant Carson on NFL Dementia Study: "They Shouldn't Bullshit With This Data"

Commented Oct 03, 2009 at 07:27:24 in New York

“I've long wondered why football helmets while having some support from injury on the inside do not have any on the exterior. I think it's time some form of rubber covering of the helmet would be in order. I'm sure the genius of American inventors can come up with removeable rubber coverings that can be attractive and fit in with the team's insignias.”
Michael Moore & Me

Michael Moore & Me

Commented Oct 02, 2009 at 06:42:50 in Politics

“No one has stated that Democracy as it is practice in the USA is a paralyzed system. So many checks and balances that nothing major can get done. Even when the Dems have "control" of all three branches big change cannot happen. Add to this our insane lobbying system and contributions to candidates debacle and there you have it. Capitalism goes nuts,. The founders would not approve. What to do? Probably a peaceful en masse revolution could do it. But do Americans have the courage - I doubt it. Sooo 1% controls 95% of the wealth.”

huff reader replied on Oct 02, 2009 at 07:44:12

“A "peaceful, en masse revolution" is entirely possible. It's called voting the bastards out.

No, you can't turn the Queen Mary on a dime. Democracy is messy and slow. Checks and balances slow change. They also protect us from rash shoot-from-the-hip style government (like we see with the 'proposition' system in California).

But when enough people want change enough, and in the same direction, changre really happens.

The New Deal era brought profound changes to our country. Many of us think these were good changes, though some didn't.

The Reagan revolution started in motion the undoing of many of the New Deal changes. Why? Well, enough people wanted to try something else, so that's what we did.

If you don't like the results, get out there and promote the changes we need.

Democracy is slow, but it works. But you have to get out there and make it work, so go for it!”

hippie chucker replied on Oct 02, 2009 at 06:58:00

“Yeah, it has worked so terribly for the last 250 years. Allowing differing opinions from free men to surface, and having the electorate decide who's right is so passe'.

What we really need is a suspension of civil liberties, a strong central leader, and an extremely active police force-then we can really get things done! Is that what you are saying?

Russia, China.....­...that your model of "getting things done"?”
Triggering a Democratic Civil War

Triggering a Democratic Civil War

Commented Sep 23, 2009 at 13:55:07 in Politics

“The Progressives in the House and Senate must unite and become the Obstructionist Party. They must stop all bills put forth by the Blue Dogs, the President and whatever Repugs are involved. This is the only way to gain respect and power to move Progressive agendas (Public Option).”

GeorgeP922 replied on Sep 23, 2009 at 17:06:20

“Hey friend, check out this PAC called the PCCC
http://boldprogressives.org

Read the mission statement and examine their work, if you like it sign up for the mailing list.
Please get involved we need as many strong progressives we can get.”
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