SHE speaks the truth........GOP has plotted to make OBAMA FAIL at everything since the INAUGURATION Night in a Restaurant in DC with 13 Republicans and Frank LUNTZ the wordsmith who told them what to do.
READ Robert Draper PROLOGUE in his book DO NOT ASK WHAT GOOD WE DO "”
GOPers had plenty of time during the debates in 2009 -10 to amend any thing they wanted..........but they had no better ideas.
OBVIOUS , because the ACA was already a REPUBLICAN IDEA shaped by Heritage Foundation for many years past and implemented by ROMNEYCARE.
It was STUPID of Dems not to go their own version !”
“Fineman was probably under the influence of that GOSSIPY new book Halperin and Heilmann wrote......forget the name.
it was very good that Biden did not mention ANYTHING about Obama.
because Biden understand that there are many Rwingers in VA and since the President was there yesterday..............it would be too much.
remember Obama is not liked by everyone.
MyGuyO on Nov 5, 2013 at 21:25:26
“I believe so. Mr. Fineman guested on Mr. Chris Matthews show last evening along with Mr. Heilman. Perhaps Mr. Fineman got carried away with all the fluff that was talked about on that segment.”
Hugh-Gee on Nov 5, 2013 at 13:19:00
“He's DEFINITELY under the influence of that silly book. He repeated their contention—that the Admin had considered dumping Biden in '12—as if it were fact (instead of some rumor from a bird cage liner of a book).”
YannosB on Nov 5, 2013 at 05:52:09
“wise view of the matter.”
LizM on Nov 4, 2013 at 23:16:26
“That sounds right. There are precious few journalists, bloggers and the like who understand who Biden is and what he is all about. Personally, I judge them all with respect to their credibility, reliability and trustworthiness, in general, by their take on Biden.”
Whenever I hear the name Norquist I am reminded of what he said in 2003
That AMerica would have a PERMANENT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.
In 2003 at a reunion he made that statement and someone asked him how it was possible , do you mean NO Democrat can ever win ??
Norquist immediately replied : WE Will make it so, that NO DEMOCRAT can GOVERN as a DEMOCRAT.
After hearing /reading that , I understood why BILL CLINTON had to say the ERA of BIG GOV is over, and Nafta kafta and globalization and Repeal of Glass Steagall happened ,and why Bill Clinton has been called :
THE BEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT..
as also WHY Obama has been so timid and given in to Austerity and NO Public Option etc etc
So Dems have to start building the base and teaching them to come out to VOTE en MASSE , so we give back Majority to DEMS to give them a BACKBONE.”
The GOPers love to say this was THE WORST RECOVERY ever .
.and unfortunately NO DEMOCRAT has the presence of mind to counter that line with a simple
BECAUSE this was THE WORST RECESSION In 75 years.
SO it is normal ...........+ PLUS the fact that GOPTers have OBSTRUCTED from Day One”
mynamesyow on Nov 4, 2013 at 15:06:12
“they never like to mention that trying to Resurrect a DOA Economy in a time of rapid globalization and e-commerce and 'outsourcing' is unprecedented and STILL try to plug in old theories championed by the Norquist NeoCons...”
I basically prefer the European attitude from way back.ie the National Health Care service. which was implemented under Queen who is CONSERVATIVE.....but feels that Health care should be provided to all.
Obviously, prices and copays can be adjusted as population grows and other factors. of tek advances giving too many possibilities to lengthen life etc
I love Medicare although at 80+ we are still working , so paying into it.
I think the DEMS should have Protected it from ABUSE FRAUD and WASTE.
Actually, the ACA big problem with the site is that they overlearned that and have taken several steps of checking with DHS and IRS ......this was extremely stupid and cause most of the difficulties
WHAT they could have done instead is A WARNING that this plan is ONLY for CITIZENS and Those who have IRS accounts ANY false statement will DEPRIVE You for LIFE of the Benefits.
I believe I have said all I need to say on the subject and I still will support it until SOMETHING REALLY BETTER. comes along like Single Payer which is what Medicare is .
This has been a long conversation ......so HUFF Post cannot complain.
All the best”
happysunshine82 on Nov 3, 2013 at 16:28:46
“ACA isn't the website. The ACA is a set of laws - this is what I mean - you don't understand. I was done responding to you.
All the best to you as well - there's no need to repeat yourself.”
“LOOK here............the EMPLOYER based system is one reason that led GM to bankruptcy with legacy costs while All other car manufacturers in rest of the world had GOV HEALTH CARE for citizens employees etc.
SMALL biz cannot afford to pay for HEALTH Benefits .
that is amazing that PRO-BIZ politicians of GOP type cannot get that !!! LOL”
“No, you apparently do not know it, because you're responses do not indicate that you were aware of this. You're using ACA as though it was ONLY about the pools.
Please - I'm not interested in spending 5 more posts setting straight what you do or don't know about this topic. You've veered largely from the original point that was made about REAL single-payer systems, and your only frame of reference is Medicare - which is not the same kind of system.
I'm done explaining and re-explaining and then having you pretend you knew what you didn't know. Just enjoy your Sunday.”
BUT the idea of VOUCHERINZING Medicare is actually further proof of my claim that The RWIng HATES the Safety net programs and want to wipe Kill or fundamentally change them.
Again........I believe in FIX it NOT change it or kill it
As for the increase in charges..........I did not object to them , but wanted to show you that over here it is going up too, because you had mentioned European rates being hiked too.
It would have been better if DEMS could have done either Single Payer or add a Public Option
sorry that is my sincere belief”
happysunshine82 on Nov 3, 2013 at 11:27:54
“You honestly don't understand what the ACA and single-payer is if you are comparing them to Medicare.
You have a right to your belief - but sorry, you're not using good logic here to support why you think single payer is better. You don't understand that ACA is a set of laws that apply to EVERYONE - it is not simply about the pools of coverage that are being discussed right now in the media which were set up only for people who still needed coverage.
My point about single payer and Europe is that it isn't working - and you completely ignored that. It isn't working BECAUSE people are being asked to pay more of their own coverage, and have to buy supplement PRIVATE insurance to get what the need. You completely MISSED that point!!!”
CHEATERS are everywhere among companies Doctors and Big Pharma people. and Insurance companies are a middle men whom we do not have to have
in Medicare . costs and overhead is lower
There was many news stories about that.
The END of LIFE costs are crazy and Demography has made things worse too.
I did take into account your well said points , believe me.
you are a thought ful person.
I come from the place where I say LET"S DO everything possible to keep Medicare
you come from the place that the old systemis bad and we have to change
ALSO , I remind you that the CO-pays and premiuns in MEDICARE ALSO have gone up A LOT this year
we are not on Medicare althouth at 80 still working .
I enjoyed our conversation
happysunshine82 on Nov 2, 2013 at 18:30:22
“"I come from the place where I say LET"S DO everything possible to keep Medicare
you come from the place that the old systemis bad and we have to change"
You're not even reading these posts correctly- discussing things that weren't even mentioned.
NO ONE IS CALLING TO GET RID OF MEDICARE! AND IT IS NORMAL FOR PREMIUMS TO SLIGHTLY INCREASE - MEDICARE CANNOT CONTINUE TO ASK FOR THE SAME PREMIUMS FOR 10 STRAIGHT YEARS WHEN YOUR SERVICES ARE BEING BILLED AT HIGHER RATES.
THE ACA ****IS NOT***** MEDICARE
AND A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM IS ALSO ****NOT**** SIMPLY MEDICARE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE EVERYONE. IT ISN'T.”
I put myself in their place and think like them. I would not want to pay more either. Unfair is Unfair........fair is fair.
so they should go and really look at the exchanges and compare.....and speak the truth .
Because there have been cases where testimonials were lies. on CNBC and FOX”
Without the abuse , fraud and waste , + End of life cost control
and my B L U Medicare for all .............could be done.
You will see the H . Insurers will not be competitive without a PUBLIC OPTION.
future will show .
As for the European system , and what is happening now.......I have no problem with that . Except that the European ACA will still be much cheaper than ours because over there there is less greed, waste fraud and abuse.”
happysunshine82 on Nov 1, 2013 at 21:52:47
“You don't get it - abuse, fraud, and waste occurs in single payer as well. This is WHY it isn't working for Europe.
Abuse, fraud, and waste is a big deal for us in the US, but having single payer will NOT stop it or somehow shield us from it.
Single payer isn't workable - every economist who LIKES the idea of single payer has admitted that it simply can't work here without major concessions which essentially turn it into something other than single payer!”
“FIRST you should never say it is ONLY A SMALL SLIVER of population.......Because they are IMPORTANT and 5 million people or more is NOT a small sliver, and not important .
I am a SiNGLE PAYER supporter of ACA .....it is better than nothing and has good provisions and benefits.
But ...........NO one should be HURT by the ACA........which is of course a REPUBLICAN Free MArket private sector Health insurers plan.............so blame them
NOT The DEMOCRATIC preferred SINGLE PAYER PLAN which would be better, and cheaper and SIMPLER”
happysunshine82 on Nov 1, 2013 at 21:16:29
“"NOT The DEMOCRATIC preferred SINGLE PAYER PLAN which would be better, and cheaper and SIMPLER"
Not to mention, impossible to implement - and would send the economy into a large recession rivaling 2008 because of the way insurance and health care have been entrenched together for more than 50+ years.
The ACA is here because people who like single payer cannot get the numbers together to support single payer being a reality for this country.
And FYI - the European nations that are single payer (because they designed their economies that way from Day 1) - are no longer exclusively single payer. They are struggling. Taxes are being raised, people are paying co-pays where they weren't asked for them before, and people who can afford it are being encouraged to buy private supplemental policies to fill in gaps for basic care. They are slowly but surely becoming the ACA themselves!”
I think you put too much blame on WE THE PEOPLE in this particular mortgage issue
I have been saying LET"S MOVE ON ....
.hoping that the BANKS have learned not to HURT the PEOPLE again”
miriamfl on Oct 29, 2013 at 23:14:24
“Agree, but not just the banks. The rating companies didn't even know what they were approving and the mortgage co knew but also didn't care. Well we know the rest. I hope that buyers learned their lesson and will proceed with care.”
“Zombie SM the electoral process the debate system the $$$$ are all against the 3rd party BUT if you see the recent ads about NO LABEL pair talking pretty.....one Republ and one Dem both RIGHTof center......with money backing and other stuff.......You should know that it is RIGGED 3rd party No Label.”