“"And Democratic lawmakers who voted against the bill went on to help with its implementation
From then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.):
"I voted against it, but once it passed I certainly determined that I would try to do everything I could to make sure that New Yorkers understood it, could access it, and make the best of it."
And from then-Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Select Committee on Aging, at a hearing on Feb. 2, 2006:
"We need to put aside any partisan thoughts to work together to get this program running so that seniors are better off than they were before we passed the drug benefit. I do not believe we are there at this time."
AND THIS HAS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN & NOW. YOU VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT IF IT PASSES INTO LAW THEN WORK ON MAKING IT WORK FOR AMERICANS. THAT IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. SADLY, NO LONGER.”
“Well golly you are feeling the effects of the global climate change right now, even tho it is cold. Make weather patterns get weirder ( check), more extreme (check, check). Sorry Jeff, you're already living in a warmer planet, which means things are about to get real weird.”
“The point no one seems to be understanding here & responding to these ridiculous claims is that the GOVT is NOT giving out birth control prescriptions. You get those from your health care provider, you & your insurance pay for them.
The SMALL % that ACA covers on this is a VERY SMALL % of women who take BCP. So they now can get pharmacy coverage for the BCP, along with their diabetes meds, their Blood Pressure meds, allergy meds, etc.
Amazing how this issues has made the real wingnuts crawl out from under the floorboards.”
“So it's NOT the message, just that they failed to get the required permits BEFORE hand? I can live with that cuz it's something easily fixed. Wish we were not all always so angry, looking for the next perceived insult.”
“These are all 3rd world nations, frequently with political & economic instability. Better comparisons would be with Australia, Canada, & Europe. Those are our national 'peers'. Oh, doesn't work then does it?”
“As much as I think this particular individual has his tinfoil hat on too tight, it does raise an interesting question. Who owns the airspace above you? And to what height? What restrictions already apply to it's use/misuse? Is this a federal issue or state/local one? Wondering.”
kathy smelser on Dec 3, 2013 at 08:57:31
“I wonder if bugs and birds need special permission , and papers”
“This is fundamentally different form modern Mormon polygamy in the fact most branches of modern polygamous cults practice a form of enforced pedophilia by taking child brides, given by their fathers, forced/coerced into these marriages by perversions of their faith. These little girls no no different, have no choice & it is nearly impossible to escape, even if they could figure out why or how.
This show & article is about consenting, mature adults who if anything hyper analyze the minutiae of their relationships. At times sex is a sidebar to all the relationship work.”
“And as for their child, I am sure he is fine if they are honest with him too, and he is surrounded with with loving, supportive adults- that is what truly matters. Most kids these days have complicated relationships with their multiple parents. What your parents ( any of them) do in the bedroom your child should never be involved with until they are old enough to understand. That is true whether there are 2 of you or 4 or more of you.”
Nat Tuck on Nov 27, 2013 at 21:23:07
“I have read about tribes of people where the whole tribe raises the kid (so a kid has many effective mothers and fathers). Sometimes I don't wonder if there is some wisdom in that sort of set up. We say "it takes a village to raise a child" but what American really means it? Most are scared of intimacy with one person let alone having a group you confide in. Definitely not a strong suit for us.”
“You have actually hit on several key components of how this kind of thing works. I have had sev friends who DO live this lifestyle and it CAN work. The key is honesty & communication. Having ground rules everyone agrees with. No lies. They don't have to be the same for everyone but what you & your spouse/partner agree on. (This couple has many very specific rules to keep things going & they work hard at it) Polygamy has been around for thousands of years, and I agree totally re the typical 'patriarchal' nature of that, but the fact is most of those wives lived together, raising their kids etc. Communal families are not new. Many in the world still do. (And please do not confuse the pedophilic nightmare that exists in these LDS polygamous cults, where 'wives' are TAKEN when still children and they have no choice. That is NOT what is happening here.) This just takes an old world situation a step farther in that women are getting to choose partners as well. It is very honest, open. It can take a lot of work emotionally to keep it going. It's not just about sex, it is about relationships. And ultimately if you are consenting adults, why not?”
“I struggle with the GOP either has a very wry sense of humor ( & accepts their eventual demise as a party) or they are just so far over the edge, they embrace their delusions all the way to the bottom!! I go back & forth.”
“There is tons of evidence. Some people choose to dismiss it because it makes them uncomfortable. Why do leading scientists across the scientific spectrum believe CC/GW is occurring? Because the DATA supports it. I'm talking Hawking, Tyson, those kinds of guys. If you use a microwave, a smart phone, have ever had an MRI/CAT Scan, (I could go on), you have used the same science that is proving CC/GW is REAL. Ultimately it won't matter if you believe it or not; things will unfold apace. But if you have kids/grandkids/great grandkids….they will curse your name one day for your lack of action when it could have made a difference.”
Forestkatt on Nov 23, 2013 at 00:22:28
“Leading scientists once agreed that homosexuality was a mental disorder. Then they all changed their minds. But you're right. It will unfold apace. It's been, what, more than twenty years of this nonsense? I'll tell you what. Give it another twenty and when there is no GW and weather is still weather... Well, you'll probably pat yourself on the back for all your hard work. But somewhere, in the back of your mind you'll remember. I was right.”
“So…one can only moderate the debates if you agree with the basic positions of the people on the stage? Well, at least, they aren't pretending to be 'fair, balanced' anymore or impartial!! I say fine, broadcast them only on Fox, it will continue to only play in a shrinking echo chamber.”
“Except….he has continued to say this and other equally offensive, misogynistic BS like this his entire career. I see sev trolls say 'what? this was like 20 yrs ago'. Ok, It was 16 yrs ago ( equally 'almost' the same as 10 yrs ago vs 20), he has a LONG track record since then saying/doing the same thing. This does indeed reflect his core beliefs as he acts on them in public office. Sorry the dude's knuckles drag when he walks. And unless the GOP leadership learns to muzzle it's Neanderthals, these creeps will drive women voters away in herds.”
jag872002 on Aug 9, 2013 at 20:54:59
“there isn't any libs lately that have said dumb things in the news lately. im not saying hes an angel, just trying to say that there reaching a little bit far back on this. as for the gop, please spread the word on how bad the they are. And you realize that old white males are not the only voting for these guys, if that was the case there wont be any gops in office right now. maybe calm down a bit and get back in line with the rest of the sheep herd.”
“I hear that line all the time in my head, every time the GOP sputters some sounds of faux outrage for stuff they did, funded, approved, monitored, what have you. It's only wrong when a Democrat does it, especially a Black Democrat does it.”
“Doesn't that statement sum up most of what was wrong with Romney as a candidiate & why we rejected him as POTUS? He said alot of things he obviously didn't believe, and it varied from week-week, day-day. Who of us really knows what Romney believes. Happily for us, it no longer matters.”
“I think this could be a fascinating experience for these girls. To spend a day hidden by these things, it must influence how you react with those around you, how they react to you. Did it change their feelings about women who wear burkas? As long as this was voluntary, I think this was a great idea. I'd love to hear their descriptions of what it was like.”