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Is the Fate of Democracy in Sarah Palin's Hands?
Commented Jan 06, 2010 at 23:51:11 in Politics
“Palin is simply using the same strategy Obama did to get elected. He too had a "mob" mentality of "Obama-bots" that followed him around and swooned at his every move. Now they are disappointed to see he's just another politician. The "swooners" of Palin will find the same disappointment - she is, afterall, only human - just like Obama. The American public flits from one "flavor of the month" to the next - yet the "real deal" those that are LEADERS and understand politics and Washington are quickly thrown away and seen as "insiders" tied to special interest groups. But Obama and Palin are tied to special interest groups as well, you just have to search a little harder to find out which ones. For me, I will stick with the a proven leader - someone with a track recors of leading and getting things done. That is why I supported (and still do) Hillary Clinton - she is an intelligent, passionate, strong leader with experience. If Palin gets into office, then the Democratic Party has only them self to blame for selecting the weaker, less experienced candidate over the experienced leader and best woman candidate to ever run for President.”
Where Does A Democrat Go From Here?
Commented Jan 06, 2010 at 23:01:22 in Books
“The issue is Leadership. Obama has shown a lack of leadership on the issues. He has not fought for the public option on HCR, he has allowed the "tea party" movement to take hold and the vast majority of Americans both on the right and left don't like the bill that congress came up with. The right hate it because it's "socialist" but the left hate it because it simply helps the insurance companies, doesn't cover ALL the uninsured, does not offer a public option and women, in particular should be angry because the bill further curbs a women's right to choose. With regards to gay issues, he promised that he would overturn DADT - most of us in the gay community believe that the time is NOW; he will not get another chance to have 60 Dem Senators to pass some of these crucial social reforms since it now appears as if the Dems may loose the house or at least loose many seats in the 2010 election. Obama has chosen to keep quiet which to protect his own numbers, but that will not help the democratic congress. With regards to the stimulus plan, the very first thing he did was bail out the banks and large wall street firms, this did not result in jobs or much help to the average middle class worker. Instead, he appears to be on the side of Big Business, Big Banks and not for the little people who elected him.”
Where Does A Democrat Go From Here?
Commented Jan 06, 2010 at 22:42:42 in Books
“this should not be a surprise, his entire cabinet are ex-Clinton people. SURPRISE - he's a POLITICIAN like all of them. It's just his marketing campaign was better.”
Where Does A Democrat Go From Here?
Commented Jan 03, 2010 at 23:38:54 in Books
“there is no "law" or written rule that as a student of ACIM you cannot have political opinions or beliefs. Though I cannot speak for Marianne, or other liberal democrats, I believe that many saw in Obama a "hope" for a brighter future of change. The change for many meant progressing in the areas of of human rights. The "fierce urgency of now" was to get the country and planet uplifted and moving in a hopeful direction rather than a fearful/fear-based direction. This is in keeping with the theme of ACIM so it would make perfect sense to me that Marianne would a.) be a democrat and b.) be a progressive thinker (ie support Obama). She should congratulated for this rather than judged.”
Where Does A Democrat Go From Here?
Commented Jan 03, 2010 at 22:34:22 in Books
“well said fran20. I think the Democratic party and leadership missed the real opportunity to elect the best Democrat for the job and that was Hillary.”
Truthb4u replied on Jan 04, 2010 at 03:46:42
“NAME ONE POLITICAN WHO DOESN'T GET MONEY FROM WALL STREET. PLEASE I DARE ANY PERSON ON THIS POST. JUST ONE.”
Reader2 replied on Jan 03, 2010 at 22:48:41
“I don't believe so, because she had a shot at health reform already, and failed badly. I don't think she would be any more progressive than Obama has been.”
Where Does A Democrat Go From Here?
Commented Jan 03, 2010 at 19:52:53 in Books
“those of us who supported Hillary Clinton (and still do) are not at all surprised by this. The question liberal democrats should ask themselves is why you were so quick to throw out the best Woman Candidate ever to run for President? Hillary Clinton is a progressive. She has been doing (as oppose to talking about doing) progressive work in the State Dept. She has taken the lead on gay rights making benefits legal for same sex couples, spoken out against Uganda's anti-gay agenda, and is fighting hate crimes on the world stage. Hillary has also set the agenda for women's rights continuing her fight of "Women's rights are human rights". Obama is an eloquent speaker, but he has no record of getting anything done in congress or elsewhere. Clinton is a passionate fighter that knows her way around the senate and congress. Hillary Clinton continues to be (for the 17th year in a row) the most admired woman in America. So - I ask you - why as progressive, liberal WOMEN - were you so quick to throw out the ONE progressive, liberal woman to run for President? What a sad, sad day it would be if 2012 rolls around and in an Obama vs Palin match up, Palin wins. The democrats will have lost the opportunity to have the best woman President ever.”
thetruthbringer replied on Jan 03, 2010 at 20:29:48
“Sorry, but you are just misguided on this one.”
jwiddifield replied on Jan 03, 2010 at 20:24:30
“Hillary is a hawk. She is also highly influenced by health insurance companies. No, I don't think we should have elected her.
President Obama is a disappointment. (Read Bob Herbert's piece from last week in the Times about the realities of "health reform.") We were there when Barack Obama needed us but now we need him and he's selling us out. Health care, banking, and increased war especially. Part of doing well for U.S. citizens is not killing in our name. As long as we are continuing to kill innocents all of us are dragged down.
Joan Widdifield, Director-Producer of Hearts & Mines (2011) - a documentary from Central Vietnam”
President Obama is a disappointment. (Read Bob Herbert's piece from last week in the Times about the realities of "health reform.") We were there when Barack Obama needed us but now we need him and he's selling us out. Health care, banking, and increased war especially. Part of doing well for U.S. citizens is not killing in our name. As long as we are continuing to kill innocents all of us are dragged down.
Joan Widdifield, Director-Producer of Hearts & Mines (2011) - a documentary from Central Vietnam”
TinaGirlla replied on Jan 03, 2010 at 20:07:40
“Do we really, really, really need to go here and do this argument all over again? I have so many rebuttals & counterpoints to what you wrote, but I am going to take a deep breath because I am more interested in moving forward & taking up the questions posed by the original post, not rehashing old BS back and forth.
Where do we go from here, and to me, I think in the direction of the progressives mentioned in this article along with others like Alan Grayson, those who have really stood up & continue to so their best to do so.”
Where do we go from here, and to me, I think in the direction of the progressives mentioned in this article along with others like Alan Grayson, those who have really stood up & continue to so their best to do so.”
Hillary Clinton Does 185,731 Miles and Asks If I Was a Party Crasher
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 22:38:53 in Politics
“for those of us who have been following HIllary Clinton for years, none of this is a surprise - why do you think her ardent supporters were so angry when Dem leaders wrecklessly supported the weaker, less experienced candidate? We have known all along that she is passionate, in particularly about women's rights (and human rights). It is no surprise to this supporter that she is taking the SoS and department into a new era - it is what she would have done, or tried to do, has she been President. Hillary's strength lies in knowing who she is, what she wants, what the goal is and focusing on it. She is flexible and pliable working with adversaries along the way as long as the end goal is the focus.”
DBC replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 06:06:35
“ALL RESPECTS TO PRESIDENT OBAMA ; BUT, YOU COULD NOT BE MORE RIGHT. A GOD GIVEN GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY MISSED. SAD .”
Bill Clinton Brings Smiles to Uneasy Democrats, Supports Obama Afghanistan Plan in New Hampshire
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 10:18:47 in Politics
“I love the big dawg. He's still #1 to me.”
all4hill replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 12:28:14
“I agree with you completely.”
Stupak-Pitts Goes Beyond Status Quo
Commented Nov 21, 2009 at 12:39:24 in Politics
“they HYDE amendment is sexist - why did the democrats allow THAT to pass?”
NYC Women Unite Against Stupak-Pitts Amendment
Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 23:59:30 in New York
“Thank you Senator Gillibrand for standing against this sexist amendment. Please do not cave in when they are doing their back room negotiations and come up with a slightly less-worse bill that you'll be called a "party pooper" for not supporting. The answer is a flat out "NO". Do not sacrifice women's rights for healthcare. If these men really cared about abortions and fetuses, then they would have added that viagra and all erectile dysfunction meds would not be covered by insurance, they would have added in free contraception and sex education - but these men did not. These 2 men, instead, discriminated against a woman's LEGAL right to a medical procedure called abortion. How dare they. The Democratic party's platform is to support a women's right to choose. If that is not the case, then I am leaving the Democratic party, I will not support Obama's reelection if he signs ANY amendment that further chips away at women's rights. Furthermore - tell them you DEMAND that the Hyde Amendment be repealed. That's discrimination too.”
And Once Again, It's Abortion
Commented Nov 16, 2009 at 23:34:43 in Politics
“It's all those things - but, in the end, it IS a Medical Issue and therefore should and must be covered.”
10 Reasons Why Democrats Who Opposed the Health Care Bill Made a Political Mistake
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 19:02:29 in Politics
“I read your post and the amendment. You seem to think because there is an option that offers a rider to purchase abortion insurance that this makes the amendment ok. It does not. You cannot purchase an abortion insurance rider after you accidentally get pregnant!! This is suggesting, then that all women of child-bearing ages should purchase this rider on the off chance they may get pregnant and want an abortion! how ludicrous!! Furthermore, it allows for discrimination against insurance co who provide these riders essentially leaving them out of the public option exchange. Do your homework! This amendment goes far beyond Hyde and takes away basic civil, legal rights that women NOW have. I would never support this and will vote against anyone that does.”
Mike Hihn replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 20:26:38
“>>>>I read your post and the amendment. You seem to think because there is an option that offers a rider to purchase abortion insurance that this makes the amendment ok
Read it again. You missed the part about separate plans in the bill, just like the liars at NARAL.
>>>>You cannot purchase an abortion insurance rider after you accidentally get pregnant!!
How many moons circle YOUR planet. Insurers cannot deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. Did you understand the part about guaranteeing a woman can always buy insurance in the 7th month of pregnancy -- cancel it after childbirth -- and keep repeating that as often as she wants?
Brilliant.
>>>>furthermore, it allows for discrimination against insurance co who provide these riders essentially leaving them out of the public option exchange
Another NARAL lie. Tell us which paragraph in the bill you're misreading. You never read an evidence at all. How is that any different than a Republican who still thinks there are death panels, on blindf faith alone?
>>>>Furthermore, it allows for discrimination against insurance co who provide these riders essentially leaving them out of the public option exchange
Also a proven NARAL lie. Anybody who chooses to confirm the audacity of your distortions will find all the evidence here. Fully documented.
http://pol
This is why a majority of Americans are noe fed up with both political parties. Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.”
Read it again. You missed the part about separate plans in the bill, just like the liars at NARAL.
>>>>You cannot purchase an abortion insurance rider after you accidentally get pregnant!!
How many moons circle YOUR planet. Insurers cannot deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. Did you understand the part about guaranteeing a woman can always buy insurance in the 7th month of pregnancy -- cancel it after childbirth -- and keep repeating that as often as she wants?
Brilliant.
>>>>furthermore, it allows for discrimination against insurance co who provide these riders essentially leaving them out of the public option exchange
Another NARAL lie. Tell us which paragraph in the bill you're misreading. You never read an evidence at all. How is that any different than a Republican who still thinks there are death panels, on blindf faith alone?
>>>>Furthermore, it allows for discrimination against insurance co who provide these riders essentially leaving them out of the public option exchange
Also a proven NARAL lie. Anybody who chooses to confirm the audacity of your distortions will find all the evidence here. Fully documented.
http://pol
This is why a majority of Americans are noe fed up with both political parties. Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.”
The Assault on Choice
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 18:31:58 in Politics
“If this bill passes and Obama signs it - I will leave the democratic party and fight against Obama's reelection. Pro-choice and fighting for a woman's right to choose is a core democratic value.”
10 Reasons Why Democrats Who Opposed the Health Care Bill Made a Political Mistake
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 15:37:17 in Politics
“as a life long progressive democrat who is pro-choice and who has wanted health care reform forever - I will not support any HCR bill that further erodes women's access to legal and safe abortions. If the stupak-pitts amendment passes the senate and then obama signs that bill into law, I will leave the democratic party and will not support obama's reelection. this is a core democratic value and platform. women make up probably close to 60% of the democratic party of those, I'm sure close to 90% are pro-choice. throwing women under the bus will not get democrats reelected. This is major problem and needs to be fixed.”
Mike Hihn replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 18:03:21
“>>>>If the stupak-pitts amendment passes the senate and then obama signs that bill into law, I will leave the democratic party and will not support obama's reelection. this is a core democratic value and platform.
Some Republicans got snookered by the false claim of Death Panels. Blind faith. Didn't read the bill.
Now it's your turn to get snookered. Before you leave your party, why not spend five minutes to READ THE AMENDMENT!
You may not do that, if you have the same blind faith as a teabagger, but your blind faith is in NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Do you care about the facts? You'll find the actual amendment at the link below, along with the claims made by pro-choice leaderships, with links to all ORIGINAL sources. Compare them for yourself. I dare you.
I double-dog dare you
http://pol
This is non-partisan site. It defends Rep. Stupak -- followed by a defense of Obama (the "We are not a Christian nation" scam.)”
Some Republicans got snookered by the false claim of Death Panels. Blind faith. Didn't read the bill.
Now it's your turn to get snookered. Before you leave your party, why not spend five minutes to READ THE AMENDMENT!
You may not do that, if you have the same blind faith as a teabagger, but your blind faith is in NARAL and Planned Parenthood. Do you care about the facts? You'll find the actual amendment at the link below, along with the claims made by pro-choice leaderships, with links to all ORIGINAL sources. Compare them for yourself. I dare you.
I double-dog dare you
http://pol
This is non-partisan site. It defends Rep. Stupak -- followed by a defense of Obama (the "We are not a Christian nation" scam.)”
DebbieKat replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 16:09:44
“TOTALLY agree. Something that Robert Creamer completely failed to comment on. This is a BAD bill. I hope the Senate gets rid of that ridiculous amendment. To have something like this in legislation with a democratic majority is a total affront to democratic principles. I already left the party in 2006 after the impeachment off the table thing. I am not turning back. They will not be getting my money any more.”
10 Reasons Why the Stupak-Pitts Amendment Has to Go
Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 15:07:42 in Politics
“if this amendment passes, I will leave the democratic party. If Obama signs it - I would never support his reeclection. I don't care if it means republicans get in again. If we cannot count on the democratic party to stand up for our core values that we elected them for, then why would I ever support or trust them again? No - I'd go to the green party.”
Vinkaye replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 15:42:55
“I feel the same way, Nikki.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 23:20:10 in Denver
“we all agree. These Congress women agree. Hillary - agrees. We have ALL been fighting for universal healthcare for DECADES. But if they added an ammendment into the bill that said everything would be paid for except people with cancer - are you suggesting we should all sign on to the bill and the hell with the cancer patients? because pregnancies happen to women - probably more than all of cancer added together. so to deny women healthcare if they get pregnant is WRONG. If the the women's health requires her pregnancy be terminated to save her life, or due to complications - apparently now she'll simply have to DIE. why would we sign off on this?”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 23:15:25 in Denver
“then you would agree, if the husband or male leaves and refuses to take financial responsibility for the child the woman is stuck raising, he should be required to have a vasectomy and it can't be reversed until he pays up? and of course you agree that since viagra can cause an unwanted pregnancy, that should not be paid for by insurance or public funds or tax dollars either, right?”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 23:04:43 in Denver
“and i don't want to pay for your viagra - but guess what - insurance covers this. since viagra is for only one purpose - to have sex - which can lead to unwanted pregnancies - then it should not be covered by insurance or federal or public funds IF abortion - the possible result of viagra is also not covered.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 22:53:55 in Denver
“well, you bring up a good point. if insurance cannot cover abortion - then why should it cover gunshots caused by gun owners? especially if it is accidental.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 22:47:31 in Denver
“obviously you don't understand how taxes work. I don't want any of my hard earned tax dollars going to pay for viagra or the war in afghanistan. am I allowed to mark that on my IRS return? NO. you and i don't get a choice as to how our tax dollars are spent. all you or i can do is vote for peopel that you hope will spend your tax dollars in the way you wish they were spent.”
nolookpass replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 11:24:53
“Have your representative offer an ammendment that states that America will no longer fight in any wars that the far left has a problem with. If that ammendment passes then we will live with it.
Until that time live with this ammendment it passed because democrats wanted it in there to pass the whole bill.”
Until that time live with this ammendment it passed because democrats wanted it in there to pass the whole bill.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 10:19:53 in Denver
“yes i do. Viagra is legal - I'm forced to pay for that - so why should you not be forced to pay for the results caused by viagra?”
SonofLiberty1 replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 18:09:40
“Good comeback:)”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 10:18:46 in Denver
“no. I didn't miss your point. If you think men should have a say in the pregnancy, and what happens to a woman's body, then men should be forced to have vascetomies if they fail to pay their share of the babie's upbringing. that would be the only FAIR way to insure they do not participate in a future pregnancy where they take no responsibility.”
nolookpass replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 10:08:43
“I kind of like that idea, whatever it takes to get to zero abortions.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 02:44:10 in Denver
“because it's LEGAL.”
SonofLiberty1 replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 03:07:34
“And you have NO RIGHT to expect that we will pay for it!”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 02:27:34 in Denver
“as long as it's equal. a woman should not have to pay higher premiums than a man for ANYTHING. so why should the insurance co even charge a higher premium for maternity insurance? and while we're at it. If abortions cannot be funded, then neither should any erectile disfunction meds.”
shivers replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 04:42:48
“viagra insurance is a total crock. agreed.
You miss my point. you can't have your cake and eat it too. If a woman wants total autonomy over her body with no say from anyone, regardless that it took a man as well to get her pregnant, then that's not equal. then don't ask for help in paying for extra costs that pregnancy occurs.”
You miss my point. you can't have your cake and eat it too. If a woman wants total autonomy over her body with no say from anyone, regardless that it took a man as well to get her pregnant, then that's not equal. then don't ask for help in paying for extra costs that pregnancy occurs.”
Protecting a Woman's Right to Choose
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 02:11:19 in Denver
“and i'm sorry that someone who chooses to overeat and become an obese diabetic I'M forced to pay for. Like a motorcyclist who doesn't wear a helmut, or a binge drinker who screws up their kidneys...
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