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Gun Sales Ring In Brooklyn Broken Up

Gun Sales Ring In Brooklyn Broken Up

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 15:43:51 in New York

“"Mayor Bloomberg blamed “extremists in the pro-gun movement” for lax gun laws, "

So, let's see. NYC has some of the strictest firearm laws in the nation. They busted an illegal firearm running ring in NYC. And this is the NRA's fault? Bloomberg is running around in his skivvies trying to leap tall buildings.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:43:03 in Politics

“Or had a neon sign flashing "unlicensed driver".”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:22:54 in Politics

“You didn't want those grapes anyway.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:16:03 in Politics

“And just like driving without a license, carrying concealed without a permit is illegal.”

leeclayton replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 14:34:14

“Now, if there was only a car that would fit in a pocket.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:12:22 in Politics

“I am not concerned with your personal problems tj101.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:07:23 in Politics

““"I mean to own a car -- this potential ki|ling machine -- I have to have training, vision test, written test, driving test, a license, title and registration, expenseive liability insurance and collision insurance, periodic inspections with more fees" - DW

Nope. All you need to "own" a car is some money. You need all the above things if you want to have it on or use it on public roads. It is kind of similar to having a concealed carry permit. To carry concealed in public you have to pass a background check, get training, pay fees, and obtain a permit.”

leeclayton replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 14:11:49

“There's always the other option, which would involve just giving a stranger some cash.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:06:17 in Politics

“Intelligence did win. Tj lost.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 14:03:32 in Politics

““"I mean to own a car -- this potential killing machine -- I have to have training, vision test, written test, driving test, a license, title and registration, expenseive liability insurance and collision insurance, periodic inspections with more fees " - DW

Nope. All you need to "own" a car is some money. You need all the above things if you want to have it on or use it on public roads. It is kind of similar to having a concealed carry permit. To carry concealed in public you have to pass a background check, get training, pay fees, and obtain a permit.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:55:13 in Politics

“:)”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:55:01 in Politics

“Nailed him!”

leeclayton replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 15:58:38

“You're sounding somewhat more coherent. Did you have your stomach pumped?”

djcrsn replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 15:51:12

“Fabio--you are a prime example of much stamina and no intelligence/logic”

leeclayton replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 15:20:40

“I think you're confusing intelligence with stamina.”

OdinsEye replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 14:06:17

“Intelligence did win. Tj lost.”

DreamerWeaver replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 14:04:06

“Oh! Please.
Intelligence will always win.
Except you have to be able to know it ...”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:53:14 in Politics

“Actually that is pretty statistically significant, when you consider the number of cases heard each year by the USSC and the myriad of subjects which get heard. But, don't let facts get in your way - just spin, twist, and engage in childish attacks.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:48:35 in Politics

“And the mods like to ban people who engage in personal attacks, insults, name calling, and ad hominems.


Just saying....”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:45:26 in Politics

““"I mean to own a car -- this potential kil.ling machine -- I have to have training, vision test, written test, driving test, a license, title and registration, expenseive liability insurance and collision insurance, periodic inspections with more fees " - DW

Nope. All you need to own a car is some money. You need all the above things if you want to have it on or use it on public roads. It is kind of similar to having a concealed carry permit. To carry concealed in public you have to pass a background check, get training, pay fees, and obtain a permit.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:42:04 in Politics

““"I mean to own a car -- this potential killing machine -- I have to have training, vision test, written test, driving test, a license, title and registration, expenseive liability insurance and collision insurance, periodic inspections with more fees .... damn!"

Nope. All you need to "own" a car is some money. You need all the above things if you want to have it on or use it on public roads. It is kind of similar to having a concealed carry permit. To carry concealed in public you have to pass a background check, get training, pay fees, and obtain a permit.””
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:37:04 in Politics

“Since 1968, 24 US Supreme Court cases have cited Haynes.”

tj101 replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 13:50:23

“Pretty statistically insignificant, if you value science and math and all that librul learnin'”

Thirdpower replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 13:39:39

“And that's just SCOTUS cases. Nevermind appellate or local courts or the number of charges NOT filed because it would be a sure loser.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:34:13 in Politics

“Further, you miss the part where she said that if she could have gotten more senators to vote with her, that is what she would have voted for. It was not her constituents she was concerned about, it was her colleagues”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:32:28 in Politics

“"Diane has a duty to vote the way of her constituents. "

Common myth. There is no requirement or duty for her to do that.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:29:57 in Politics

“Which speaks volumes about you.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:29:25 in Politics

“"It must be very unsatisfying to just oppose or mock or denigrate someone's comment instead of really discussing something.­" - DW

There was no mocking or denigrating in Third's post you were responding to.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:27:27 in Politics

“"Haynes decision says that all citizens have the right not to self-incriminate: The Fifth Amendment is for all of us." - DW

Very good. No one has said it does not apply to all of us.

"If a felon is caught with a gun and it isn't registered, he goes to prison." - DW

He can be sent to prison for illegal possession of a firearm. He cannot be sent to prison for failing to register the firearm. He cannot be forced to register the firearm.”

djcrsn replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 14:00:55

“For all DW's histrionics about words having meaning--she is having a bit of difficulty with the concept”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:18:15 in Politics

“Oh, and she USED to own a firearm. And had a concealed carry permit in a state where it is often difficult for anyone except rich white people to get one. She did, however, relingquish both.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:16:33 in Politics

“DW,

So, you contend that Feinstein did not say: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." during an interview on 60 Minutes on 5 Feb 1995?

And you contend that Feinstein did not vote against the Vitter Amendment, a law which prohibits Federal funds being used for the confiscation of lawfully owned firearms during a disaster?”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:16:10 in Politics

“So, you contend that Feinstein did not say: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." during an interview on 60 Minutes on 5 Feb 1995?

And you contend that Feinstein did not vote against the Vitter Amendment, a law which prohibits Federal funds being used for the confiscation of lawfully owned firearms during a disaster?”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 13:00:33 in Politics

“David Hemenway is an anti-gun researcher.”
Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Obama And Congress Pressured By Mayors To Take Action On Guns

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 12:58:56 in Politics

“"you conveniently ignore public safety laws like wearing a seat belt, obeying speed limits....­"

Again, for operating on public roads. Similarities exist for firearms such as not brandishing, not firing within city limits, etc.”
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